OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Steelers need a new ball thrower for the handball game thingy

TimmyD

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Not sure I see the issue for them. They pay a small fee to roadtest a better QB than Darnold. It works and they bring him back, they're laughing. It doesn't work, they've lost very little.
The issue is that Cleveland was going to have to cut him and Carolina could have signed him for free at probably less then what they are paying him now, even with the Browns eating $10.5 million
 

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The issue is that Cleveland was going to have to cut him and Carolina could have signed him for free at probably less then what they are paying him now, even with the Browns eating $10.5 million

Yeah, giving up picks and probably more $$$ than Mayfield would cost as a FA on top of whatever it does to the team dynamic ... he's not an inert presence. Sure will be a GREAT QB room for Corral to learn in.
 

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The issue is that Cleveland was going to have to cut him and Carolina could have signed him for free at probably less then what they are paying him now, even with the Browns eating $10.5 million
Whose to say that he would have picked Carolina if he was a UFA, though. I can't see faulting them for paying a late-mid round pick for a reclamation project that could work out decent.

Look at our own Mitchell Trubisky. Signed on a year to be a backup on a good team and it somehow made his stock go up.
 
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The issue is that Cleveland was going to have to cut him and Carolina could have signed him for free at probably less then what they are paying him now, even with the Browns eating $10.5 million

But the money's borderline irrelevant to them (bar the owner), and a 4th/5th to make sure another team didn't snare him sounds fair.

Even if I'm wrong, it sounds like a fairly small mistake.
 

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Whose to say that he would have picked Carolina if he was a UFA, though. I can't see faulting them for paying a late-mid round pick for a reclamation project that could work out decent.

Look at our own Mitchell Trubisky. Signed on a year to be a backup on a good team and it somehow made his stock go up.
No one else was interested in him. There wasn’t another team out there who wanted him. It was basically Carolina or bust
 

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No one else was interested in him. There wasn’t another team out there who wanted him. It was basically Carolina or bust
Yea, I don't buy that. If he was a free agent there are plenty of teams that would take a chance for a couple million. I believe nobody wanted him at his current salary, though.
 
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This seems like kind of a no brainer move for Carolina. If they have another bad season, Rhule is toast. Mayfield is a lot better of a QB than he’s been made out to be this offseason.
 
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Not sure I see the issue for them. They pay a small fee to roadtest a better QB than Darnold. It works and they bring him back, they're laughing. It doesn't work, they've lost very little.
If CMC is healthy, he'll make Baker look good. If/when CMC gets hurt again, Baker will struggle, but he can't be worse than Darnold. He's closer to Bridgewater (with more risk/reward), who they got rid of for Darnold, IIRC.
 

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Yea, I don't buy that. If he was a free agent there are plenty of teams that would take a chance for a couple million. I believe nobody wanted him at his current salary, though.
I don’t think anyone wanted baker as a backup. Teams like Atlanta Seattle are focused on next year rookie QB class. Baker was complaining in Cleveland that they were setting him to fall calling to many play action and bootleg and not enough deep balls

If CMC is healthy, he'll make Baker look good. If/when CMC gets hurt again, Baker will struggle, but he can't be worse than Darnold. He's closer to Bridgewater (with more risk/reward), who they got rid of for Darnold, IIRC.
Stats are similar between Sam and Baker and Baker has had more talent around him than Sam.
 

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I don’t think anyone wanted baker as a backup. Teams like Atlanta Seattle are focused on next year rookie QB class. Baker was complaining in Cleveland that they were setting him to fall calling to many play action and bootleg and not enough deep balls


Stats are similar between Sam and Baker and Baker has had more talent around him than Sam.

Surface numbers are similar, numbers like QBR and passer rate not so much:

Bakers career passer rating and QBR are double digits better.

Bakers arent glowing by any stretch (they look a lot like Tannehill in Miami) but they at least peak at alright starting QB. Darnolds are straight trash
 

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Say what you will about Mayfield, but at least he will play football this season.

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I know but I would find the former darkly funny. :laugh:

Sad that the Heinz presence in Pittsburgh is now pretty much all gone though, except for the History Center.
The history center is named for Senator John Heinz, so it's not even directly named after the company.

What a sad story about Heinz. My dad worked there from the early 90s until the Kraft "merger". It wasn't just headquarters and office workers, we had manufacturing and product development right on the north side. Now it's all apartments. It's sad losing a uniquely Pittsburgh institution that supported both white collar jobs and manufacturing.
 

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Yeah, I remember them ceasing operations at the plant, and then a few years later, coming home to find out it's all been turned into overpriced lofts.

It's also still the only decent pre-made ketchup in the US. The other ones are all too sweet.
 
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Snooki Stackhouse

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Makes me think of the word "acrid."

having an irritatingly strong and unpleasant taste or smell. "acrid fumes"

angry and bitter. "an acrid farewell"
That's a great point. It's a shitty name for a business, let alone a sports stadium. The way a word sounds matters.

a acri (third-person singular present acrește, past participle acrit) 4th conj.
  1. to make sour
  2. to acetify
My view on on the stadium has further "soured"
 

HandshakeLine

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Lol and my horrible joke name was actually better than the real thing.

Incidentally, I'm impressed an insurance agency has a worse name than a pharmaceutical company. That is almost maliciously terrible. :laugh:
 

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Acrisure has been trying to get into sports world. CEO Greg Williams recently teamed up with Russell Wilson, Ciara & Russell Westbrook to create Evolution Advisors, a venture “focused on the insurance and financial service needs of minorities and diverse communities.” #Steelers

The Rooney Rule Part DUH
 
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