OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Steelers need a new ball thrower for the handball game thingy

[Peat]

I get the vibe that a one year suspension wouldn't really surprise the Browns and that the Browns made the move thinking it'd be worth it.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I get the vibe that a one year suspension wouldn't really surprise the Browns and that the Browns made the move thinking it'd be worth it.

It’s the Browns, they do Browns things.

If Watson gets suspended for the season, as he should, he will have missed two consecutive seasons.

Which means lots of rust when he comes back and the likelihood that they don’t see any real dividends on the trade until 2024.

That would be such a Browns thing to do and in my opinion, karma.

 

[Peat]

It’s the Browns, they do Browns things.

If Watson gets suspended for the season, as he should, he will have missed two consecutive seasons.

Which means lots of rust when he comes back and the likelihood that they don’t see any real dividends on the trade until 2024.

That would be such a Browns thing to do and in my opinion, karma.

From your lips to god's ears I hope.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

I get the vibe that a one year suspension wouldn't really surprise the Browns and that the Browns made the move thinking it'd be worth it.

Except they are call strapped in 23 and traded a ton of picks so they will miss out on cheap labor

 

[ChaosAgent]

I get the vibe that a one year suspension wouldn't really surprise the Browns and that the Browns made the move thinking it'd be worth it.

I don't disagree that was their rationale, but boy does it looks stupid with a couple of months of perspective.

They are going to have an expensive QB who had two years off and serious character questions, while losing assets along the way.

 

[Peat]

It looked stupid the day it was done. I guess it looks even stupider now

 

[Al Smith]

I don't disagree that was their rationale, but boy does it looks stupid with a couple of months of perspective.

They are going to have an expensive QB who had two years off and serious character questions, while losing assets along the way.

They’ll bring in Kapernick as a stopgap for that one year just to learn lessons from a qb who hasn’t played for awhile.

 

[ChaosAgent]

They’ll bring in Kapernick as a stopgap for that one year just to learn lessons from a qb who hasn’t played for awhile.

I think once the suspension is announced Mayfield comes back and builds up value before he is traded in October-November.

Edit: the Browns and Mayfield need each other right now. He can prove himself in a system he is familiar with and he is the best available option for them.

 

[Al Smith]

I think once the suspension is announced Mayfield comes back and builds up value before he is traded in October-November.

Edit: the Browns and Mayfield need each other right now. He can prove himself in a system he is familiar with and he is the best available option for them.

At this point, I don't think he has anything left to prove. I think he's shown what he is and isn't. In other words, letting Baker take the SATs again probably isn't going to improve his score meaningfully.

 

[ChaosAgent]

At this point, I don't think he has anything left to prove. I think he's shown what he is and isn't. In other words, letting Baker take the SATs again probably isn't going to improve his score meaningfully.

But if he is having a good season and some team is playing well but QB-deficient (e.g., 2019 Steelers) he will look awfully appealing.

It feels silly for the Browns and Mayfield to tank each other out of spite this year. Them again, it is the Browns and it is Baker Mayfield sooooo

 

[Peat]

When was the last time a team traded for a starting QB mid-season?

In any case, I think for the Browns, trading him is just simpler. What if he plays fantastic, they trade him in season, and miss the playoff from resulting drop-off? What if he plays fantastic, they don't trade him, he drops off and they get nothing? Hell, even a fantastic season beginning to end makes them look stupid. There's no way it ends well for their egos, no way it doesn't risk extra drama at a franchise that doesn't need any more. Next season's been a write off for them from the beginning, they might as well let it happen.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Report: NFL to “probably” seek a one-year suspension for Deshaun Watson

When Major League Baseball suspended Trevor Bauer for two years due to allegations that, at their core, involve sexual consent and the violation of it, we asked whether this meant the NFL will susp…

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Lol Browns.

Here's the thing. I bet they argue this year has already been served (last season)

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Was that self imposed, team imposed or did the NFL dictate it?

I thought that was team imposed, like they asked him to take the year off until his legal troubles were over. Which have extended out.

I'm thinking the NFL can still make a ruling.

 

[OnMyOwn]

Yea I mean he was paid and everything and not suspended.

As for Baker. Everything I’m hearing on XM says he’ll be traded. There’s no way he plays/starts for Cleveland this season, regardless of Watson.

 

[Factorial]

Here's the thing. I bet they argue this year has already been served (last season)

Good luck with that argument.

And it's a joke to allow that 1mm salary to stand for next year.

 

[DanielPlainview]

Baker's best move might be to just sit the season out to get as healthy as possible. Right now, I feel he's seen as damaged goods with all the shoulder issues

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Good luck with that argument.

And it's a joke to allow that 1mm salary to stand for next year.

Oh I agree that it's a joke. But the NFL is all about image. And this story (or stories) isn't really front page national news. I have no idea why, but perhaps you can ask the media at large why they aren't roasting Watson like they did Ben and his Milledgeville incident?

Ben's incident, DA investigation, NFL investigation and the commish's ruling/suspension were all resolved within a matter of like 4 months.

NFL is dragging it's feet, purposefully I believe so it gets buried in other news.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Here's the thing. I bet they argue this year has already been served (last season)

Don’t see how that would fly, but it’s the NFL and all the full stupid they do never surprises me.

Oh I agree that it's a joke. But the NFL is all about image. And this story (or stories) isn't really front page national news. I have no idea why, but perhaps you can ask the media at large why they aren't roasting Watson like they did Ben and his Milledgeville incident?

Ben's incident, DA investigation, NFL investigation and the commish's ruling/suspension were all resolved within a matter of like 4 months.

NFL is dragging it's feet, purposefully I believe so it gets buried in other news.

Every few weeks a new case pops up agt him, so at this rate it will take years for ppl to not notice.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Oh I agree that it's a joke. But the NFL is all about image. And this story (or stories) isn't really front page national news. I have no idea why, but perhaps you can ask the media at large why they aren't roasting Watson like they did Ben and his Milledgeville incident?

Ben's incident, DA investigation, NFL investigation and the commish's ruling/suspension were all resolved within a matter of like 4 months.

NFL is dragging it's feet, purposefully I believe so it gets buried in other news.

The Watson incident is weirder than Ben's incident. The preponderance of victims magnifies the case or it kind of diminishes it in the public perception. A pattern of coercive, borderline s3x with dozens of women in a profession where frankly a lot of people believe sex is part of the deal doesn't evoke the imagination like a single incident of a 250 lb guy pinning a girl down in a Men's Bathroom.

 

[xlm34]

This is a really solid signing. Should make people happy that want them to do more about the DL.

 

[DanielPlainview]

Has to be better than Alualu

 

[TNT87]

Really like that signing.

 

[JTG]

Huge signing.

 

[Night Shift]

Here is one for the yinzers!

How many calender days has the clown coached since his hired date...???

 

[ChaosAgent]

Here is one for the yinzers!

How many calender days has the clown coached since his hired date...???

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