Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

[DesertedPenguin]

The dude just wants free hot dogs.

What could they possibly be willing to trade that we should be interested in at this point? They’re not going to trade their youth, and if they did, what would we have they would want? We shouldn’t have any interest in any vets.

Yohe thinks Letang could be moved.

If Letang were to be willing to move, Montreal would likely be one of the few destinations he'd agree to go to.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Dubas is on the management staff for team Canada. He's more likely than not scouting Hyman, Bouchard, and Montembeault for that team.

Ok

But hear me out...

DUBAS IS THE f***ING MANAGER OF THE PENS, TOO

can he put this much goddamned effort into scouting mfers for THIS team?!? You know... His actual f***in paid job?????!?!!??? Cause this guy seems to have fogged up glasses when he picks players for us...

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Ok

But hear me out...

DUBAS IS THE f***ING MANAGER OF THE PENS, TOO

can he put this much goddamned effort into scouting mfers for THIS team?!? You know... His actual f***in paid job?????!?!!??? Cause this guy seems to have fogged up glasses when he picks players for us...

All indications are that Dubas does a ton of in-person scouting for the Pens, including amateur games and events.

Haase has said several times that Dubas is on the road frequently.

 

[DearDiary]

Dubas is on the management staff for team Canada. He's more likely than not scouting Hyman, Bouchard, and Montembeault for that team.

Then why has he been frequently scouting the Habs over other teams? Last Habs game against the Sabres he brought the Pens scouting staff alongside Spezza and Kessel.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Between Dubas being involved with Canada and Sully coaching the US, North America is doomed.

I haven't given up on Dubas but what exactly has he done to be on Team Canada management? Surely there are a bunch of more successful Canadian GMs.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Isn't the argument that the Pens have young players that should get the opportunity rather than veteran castoffs?

The young players who have a chance to return something decent in trade down the road? Sure.
Don't think that applies to Ponomarev or Poulin. Plus they're not gonna be here when the Pens are contenders again. I'm not concerned about whether they're blocked or not. They are bottom-six fillers during a weird transition period for the organization.

That's more a conversation for McGroarty, Pickering, Blom and later on maybe Brunicke and Murashov. Doesn't look like McGroarty's gonna be ready this year, so I'm not worried about vets in his way.
You can always just scratch/demote Nieto too. One veteran in, another out.

Whatever leads to more picks for the actual contention window is good with me.

 

[Offtheboard412]

Which GM is dumber: the one who traded McCann for a mediocre return instead of protecting him or the one who paid some assets for McCann to expose him while protecting great players like Justin Holl.

The McCann situation still bothers me because it perfectly encapsulates my problems with the team's management. They kept bleeding talent so nonchalantly as if we had anyone in our system to step in to those open spots when we didn't. In a vacuum each move they made might not have been the end of the world but when looked at as a whole this team let go of any talent they had outside of the core guys.

 

[MeinerEiner]

Yohe thinks Letang could be moved.

If Letang were to be willing to move, Montreal would likely be one of the few destinations he'd agree to go to.

Trading Letang makes sense in the sense that Brunicke could play in the NHL next season and thus Letang's successor is already in the system.
The same goes for EK, of course

This is of course pure speculation and Yohe cannot be used as a meaningful source.

 

[Headshot77]

So 8/10 of their next games are against playoff teams. The other two teams are the Avs and Utah. Yeah, they legitimately might be in last place by Christmas

I think we go 1-8-1

 

[Zbynek]

Which GM is dumber: the one who traded McCann for a mediocre return instead of protecting him or the one who paid some assets for McCann to expose him while protecting great players like Justin Holl.

Funny how when Hextall's biggest blunders come to light years later, Dubas comes out of the woodwork to one-up him with an even bigger stinker.

 

[MeinerEiner]

I think we go 1-8-1

Against whom do you see a realistic victory?

 

[MeinerEiner]

Let's say the Pens trade Letang to the Habs and Pettersson to Vancouver. Then I would like to have Pettersson from Vancouver and play with the following defense next year:

Pettersson (new) - Karlsson
Pickering - Brunicke
UFA - St. Ivany

Start the youth movement right next season and make the team interesting to watch again.

 

[Duffy13]

Trade em all, and sort out the roster holes with short term FA and stack the minors with capable coaching. No prospect should hear Sullivans voice let alone play under any system he pretends to have. Get as high a draft picks over the next 3 years as humanly possible and start taking the kids up and giving them the spots they earn late next year. But Sullivan has to go first, and if he can't be fired, give him every FA he wants and make him quit.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Yohe thinks Letang could be moved.

If Letang were to be willing to move, Montreal would likely be one of the few destinations he'd agree to go to.

If Letang is willing to waive, I still think Montreal makes a lot of sense for him and his family as well as the Habs. I believe Kent Hugues was his agent before he became GM or I could be wrong. I would think we would be getting back one of Barron or Strubble on D and hopefully our 2nd rounder back to start. Then it all depends if we retain or not but at the end of the day, moving Letang is the right think to do even if it's 3 years too late!

 

[eXile3]

Trading Letang will hurt the tank but I can’t stand watching him anymore. I would take anything offered to get him off the roster.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Letang to MTL for some mishmash of Savard, Xhekaj, Anderson
Pettersson to VAN for Pettersson + 2025 4th rounder + 2026 2nd rounder
Jarry + DOC to ANA for Gibson + Fabbri + 2027 7th rounder

I don't know what I'm doing.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

Trading Letang talk brings back that fire and love I have for hockey. I'm excited again

 

[pistolpete11]

Letang's never been a "I want to see him retire a Penguin no matter what" kinda guy to me. If he accepts a trade to Montreal, he's doing what's best for him and his family, so good for him. I'd also be fascinated on what he could return. Anything reasonable would be good for the rebuild, so good for the Pens. Seems like a win-win.

Having said that, it's absolutely wild to me that we are reasonably talking about trading a top pairing defenseman before firing the coach on a team that says they are committed to winning. Just crazy.

I also wonder if there is some truth to this. Obviously the general state of the team. Dubas randomly being in Montreal a couple of times. The whole "everyone but 87" report. I haven't been paying super close attention and never really did when it came to reading post game comments and shit, but it was weird to me when Malkin said he didn't want to be traded. Maybe Dubas did go to all the guys with NTC's and ask them if they were willing to be traded Maybe Letang said OK to Montreal Probably reading too much into it, but...

 

[Gurglesons]

Letang isn’t really close to a top pairing D anymore.

 

[Sideline]

I am 100% ok with trading Letang as long as the money coming back isn't worse than Letang's contract. I'd do

Letang
For
2nd rounder
Contract expiring in the next year or two

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

If Letang is indeed traded to Montreal, I don't expect a big return. I'll be very honest the key part might be simply getting our 2nd rounder back along with a player that's no longer wanted by the Habs like Anderson, Dvorak or Armia. Which we can obviously flip afterwards ..

 

[Sideline]

If Letang is indeed traded to Montreal, I don't expect a big return. I'll be very honest the key part might be simply getting our 2nd rounder back along with a player that's no longer wanted by the Habs like Anderson, Dvorak or Armia. Which we can obviously flip afterwards ..

I'd do the 2nd and Dvorak or Armia all day. Cleans up the cap nicely going into 2025-2026

 

[The Old Master]

Which GM is dumber: the one who traded McCann for a mediocre return instead of protecting him or the one who paid some assets for McCann to expose him while protecting great players like Justin Holl.

but to be fair, we knew him a lot better than they did.

 

[SomeDude]

If Letang is indeed traded to Montreal, I don't expect a big return. I'll be very honest the key part might be simply getting our 2nd rounder back along with a player that's no longer wanted by the Habs like Anderson, Dvorak or Armia. Which we can obviously flip afterwards ..

Which is why it doesn’t really make sense Dubas and his staff would be scouting the Habs so aggressively.

If Letang wanted to go to Montreal, the Pens would make it happen as a courtesy and take what ever the Habs offered. There is no need to scout those bum vets we’d have to take back because it’s not an impact move.

 

[pistolpete11]

Letang isn’t really close to a top pairing D anymore.

He had the 7th most 5-on-5 points among D last year.