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I'm all aboard the Fields train at this point due to how absurdly cheap he seems he will be. If you can get him to sign a 1 year extension similar to Love, I see no downside in running with Fields and Pickett for the next 2 years and reevaluating the QB position after that.
 
They obviously shouldn't do a 1st or 2nd for Fields, but it's far more likely that Fields provides more value in 2 years than whoever you'd take in the 3rd round or later in 4 years.

My offer would be a 5th this year plus a 3rd next year that could become a 2nd if Fields plays well. That's a bit less in value to what the Panthers gave up for Darnolds in 2021 (6th in 2021 and 2nd and 4th in 2022), but it seems reasonable based on how the market is sitting right now.
 
They obviously shouldn't do a 1st or 2nd for Fields, but it's far more likely that Fields provides more value in 2 years than whoever you'd take in the 3rd round or later in 4 years.

My offer would be a 5th this year plus a 3rd next year that could become a 2nd if Fields plays well. That's a bit less in value to what the Panthers gave up for Darnolds in 2021 (6th in 2021 and 2nd and 4th in 2022), but it seems reasonable based on how the market is sitting right now.
I’ve been staunchly anti-Fields so take this with a grain of salt, but I might do one (two picks) it the other (one pick that could become better) but no way both.
 
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They obviously shouldn't do a 1st or 2nd for Fields, but it's far more likely that Fields provides more value in 2 years than whoever you'd take in the 3rd round or later in 4 years.

My offer would be a 5th this year plus a 3rd next year that could become a 2nd if Fields plays well. That's a bit less in value to what the Panthers gave up for Darnolds in 2021 (6th in 2021 and 2nd and 4th in 2022), but it seems reasonable based on how the market is sitting right now.
I wouldn't give that much for him. The Steelers would have him for one year unless they want to pick up the 5th year option or can get a contract extension worked out with him. Plus, the Bears are stuck. Plus Fields has not proven to be very good. I offer the 5th this year, maybe a 4th.
 
They obviously shouldn't do a 1st or 2nd for Fields, but it's far more likely that Fields provides more value in 2 years than whoever you'd take in the 3rd round or later in 4 years.

My offer would be a 5th this year plus a 3rd next year that could become a 2nd if Fields plays well. That's a bit less in value to what the Panthers gave up for Darnolds in 2021 (6th in 2021 and 2nd and 4th in 2022), but it seems reasonable based on how the market is sitting right now.
Let's say something is worked out. KP isn't going to be happy being backup that's for sure. Would Khan be able to salvage a 3rd or 4th?
 
I wouldn't give that much for him. The Steelers would have him for one year unless they want to pick up the 5th year option or can get a contract extension worked out with him. Plus, the Bears are stuck. Plus Fields has not proven to be very good. I offer the 5th this year, maybe a 4th.

They don’t have to pick up his 5th year option, they can decline the option and sign him for less. I don’t see any issues with doing that.

I don’t really see a big enough difference between a 3rd and a 4th for me to care about the price difference. It’s one thing if it’s a 2nd vs 3rd, but Fields likely provides more value in 2 years than most 3rd rounders provide in 4 years.
 
Let's say something is worked out. KP isn't going to be happy being backup that's for sure. Would Khan be able to salvage a 3rd or 4th?

If Fields is only worth a 3rd, I don’t think Pickett gets much more than a 5th. Maybe he could get more at another time, but the trading market for QBs stinks right now.

I think running with Pickett and Fields for 2 years and then deciding on one of them makes the most sense. If somehow both end up decent and someone wants to trade for one of them, then you trade one of them.
 
If Fields is only worth a 3rd, I don’t think Pickett gets much more than a 5th. Maybe he could get more at another time, but the trading market for QBs stinks right now.

I think running with Pickett and Fields for 2 years and then deciding on one of them makes the most sense. If somehow both end up decent and someone wants to trade for one of them, then you trade one of them.
I might be biased but I think in terms of true value Fields is worth a mid 2nd but the extenuating circumstances with Caleb Williams and the Bears lucking into the 1.01 with Carolina's pick, coupled with a deep QB class is really pushing his value down. Several veteran FA QB's as well.

Got no leverage when the whole league knows what your draft plan is.

Or at least it seems that way when his reported value has fallen from a 1st to a 2nd to now maybe just a 3rd.

Oh by the way we got a new 40 yard dash record holder. Step aside John Ross.

We're gonna see sub 4.2's soon!

 
If Fields is only worth a 3rd, I don’t think Pickett gets much more than a 5th. Maybe he could get more at another time, but the trading market for QBs stinks right now.

I think running with Pickett and Fields for 2 years and then deciding on one of them makes the most sense. If somehow both end up decent and someone wants to trade for one of them, then you trade one of them.
That would definitely be the smart play on the team's part. But I could see KP requesting a trade if relegated to backup duties if he loses out in training camp. Obviously Khan wouldn't be obligated but I don't think he'd want any malcontents around.
 
That would definitely be the smart play on the team's part. But I could see KP requesting a trade if relegated to backup duties if he loses out in training camp. Obviously Khan wouldn't be obligated but I don't think he'd want any malcontents around.

It's entirely possible, but I feel like Pickett has not been even nearly good enough in the NFL to throw a hissy fit about losing his starter's spot.

FYI, the Steelers don’t have a 5th round pick this year. They have two 4ths.

That makes it easy then, just give them the extra 4th they have plus a conditional 2025 pick based on how well he plays.
 
Man this WR class is insane. We're not gonna be able to help ourselves from taking one, are we? Have used formal visits on a number of the top guys in this class.

Honestly might be even more impressive than the 4.21 at his height/weight.
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Ya I finally gave up skating last year… it was the main culprit for my pain every time I got on the ice.

I now do a lot of mobility work and switched from conventional to trap bar deadlifts (puts back in a more neutral position).

I basically wake up with a sore back (tried different beds, body pillows etc), do my mobility work, then my sprints/hit the iron.

That routine keeps my back tolerable to not too bad, but there is always a risk I blow it out for a week doing routine stuff.

If I stop that routine I literally turn into Quasimodo.



Roth had complete command of the huddle and offense and how did that work out when AB went crazy?

They had a chance to hire Ward, who wanted to hold all receivers accountable, but Tomlin said he couldn’t hold AB accountable, and Ward said no thx.

Another top notch decision from Tomlin that lead to great things.

I had a bit of a wonky skating stride. Still got the job done, but it wasn't pretty. I have grown to find out that I am a historically inflexible person. I played the game in a way where I took an absolute asskicking on a regular basis and I'm really starting to feel it now that I have a very sedentary job.

I have to start incorporating more stretching into my routine. I was so shocked when the therapist hit that muscle that was buried deep down. When she hit it I was in the middle of a sentence and I froze because I have been explaining it as a pain I can feel but I cannot reach.
 
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I’ve been staunchly anti-Fields so take this with a grain of salt, but I might do one (two picks) it the other (one pick that could become better) but no way both.

This but I'd phrase it as "I would grudgingly accept them using one pick, I'll be in a real bad mood if they hand over two". I just don't want him.



eta: I still struggle with how the Steelers' declared public intent matches up with being interested in Fields, unless they still think he's on line to be the guy that went 11OA in which case, sure, that's worth changing plans for if cheap but that's some smartest guy in the room stuff.
 
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This but I'd phrase it as "I would grudgingly accept them using one pick, I'll be in a real bad mood if they hand over two". I just don't want him.



eta: I still struggle with how the Steelers' declared public intent matches up with being interested in Fields, unless they still think he's on line to be the guy that went 11OA in which case, sure, that's worth changing plans for if cheap but that's some smartest guy in the room stuff.
Khan basically covered all his bases. Backed Kenny but also expressed interest in bringing back Mason as well as looking at the draft, FA, and trade market to improve the QB room.

Total conjecture but Khan could've balked at CHI's initial ask on Fields. And if/when they don't get the kind of interest from other teams, circle back with us or ATL at a lower price.

RE: Rooney's comments about no "blockbuster trades for a QB", maybe he's told Khan no 1sts or 2nds available for trade but a 3rd?
 
Khan basically covered all his bases. Backed Kenny but also expressed interest in bringing back Mason as well as looking at the draft, FA, and trade market to improve the QB room.

Total conjecture but Khan could've balked at CHI's initial ask on Fields. And if/when they don't get the kind of interest from other teams, circle back with us or ATL at a lower price.

RE: Rooney's comments about no "blockbuster trades for a QB", maybe he's told Khan no 1sts or 2nds available for trade but a 3rd?

The point for me is how someone who has full faith in Pickett and who wants Rudolph back looks at Fields and thinks upgrade. Like I get that not everyone here shares my belief that Fields isn't any better than Pickett, and that's fair enough if you don't have much faith in Pickett...

... but if you do, if you take the most optimistic possible view on him, why do you want Fields?

How good do you have to think Fields can be to think he's definitely ahead of the most optimistic views of Pickett and Rudolph in terms of potential and ceiling and everything?

Either they look at three years of Fields being a bum in Chicago and think "but he still has massive potential and we can correct it", or they've finally learnt how to front and weren't being at all truthful this summer. Which mightn't be a bad thing, but it'd be a major departure.

If this doesn't come true, I'll be slightly doubtful of the veracity. There are media heads saying they're hearing nothing about the Steelers doing anything, and this is the sort of leak that makes total sense for Chicago to put out there even if it isn't really true.
 
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