Tribute The Official "Fire Tortorella" Thread

BernieParent

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So if Torts doesn't play a guy enough he's an idiot for not using him enough and if he does play a guy a lot he's an idiot for overusing him and breaking him down right? Got it. Genius. Why didn't I think of that. I guess it's silly to expect pro athletes to be fit enough to play these days. Guess I'm just old school.
But let me guess, if Torts plays a guy just the right amount do we win then, or is he still an idiot?
Would you agree that deciding whom to play in a game and for how many minutes is at or near the top of a coach's responsibility list?
 

3mFlyers

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Coaches job is to put his team in the best position to win the game. If certain guys get more playing time, you should be complaining about the guys stapled to the bench.
 

Beef Invictus

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Coaches job is to put his team in the best position to win the game. If certain guys get more playing time, you should be complaining about the guys stapled to the bench.

We are now back at the old defense that seems to assume TOI is an objective measure of a player and not a subjective and flawed coaching assessment. Many who have been stapled to the bench shouldn't have been.
 

kudymen

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"put XY in the best position to win the game"

ruh roh
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Larry44

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So if Torts doesn't play a guy enough he's an idiot for not using him enough and if he does play a guy a lot he's an idiot for overusing him and breaking him down right? Got it. Genius. Why didn't I think of that. I guess it's silly to expect pro athletes to be fit enough to play these days. Guess I'm just old school.
But let me guess, if Torts plays a guy just the right amount do we win then, or is he still an idiot?
Torts is always an idiot. That's a given. It just varies from day to day whether he's a 'blame a single scapegoat' idiot or a 'the whole team's soft' idiot or an 'it's all about narcissistic me, look at me, look how tough I am' idiot. So, yes, Torts is an idiot.
 

Boocowski

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Doctors were probably telling Torts take it easy with Coots minutes. Almost 2 years of the ice has never been a return to when you were not injured right away. But we get it you bow before our God Emperor. ALL HAIL KING TORTS!
It is hilarious how much anger a positive post gets around here but bow before the emperor? lol, that's just dumbass. Do better.
 

Boocowski

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Torts is always an idiot. That's a given. It just varies from day to day whether he's a 'blame a single scapegoat' idiot or a 'the whole team's soft' idiot or an 'it's all about narcissistic me, look at me, look how tough I am' idiot. So, yes, Torts is an idiot.
I love the way he polarizes people.

I am friends with some Sabres fans and mid season the talk was "we need a real coach to drive these lazy players, we need a Torts" and now after this slide the talk is "see, Torts is a dinosaur and an idiot glad we didn't go that route". Just hilarious.
 

kudymen

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Lolz. What i want in coach of a sports team is...
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...how his DEMEANOR FEELS like to general PUBLIC

Priorities.
 

Beef Invictus

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So even the doctors suck then right? Management sucks. coach sucks, owner sucks, players suck? Anything not suck?
I guess the fans suck too then?

The fans are fans.

The medical staff clearly sucks and has for ages. Go back to Lindros and come forward through Couturier's current handling. Tons of nonstop malfeasance because everyone in this org glorifies and festishizes playing through injuries. Mason and Schenn playing through concussions, Simmonds destroying himself as they cheered him on, Couturier destroying himself as they cheered him on, Konecny currently, Lappy playing with brain damage, Richards needing surgery but it being delayed until postseason during which time he just ate painkillers to get through, the endless litany of players coming back too soon and getting reinjured, it's just constant.

Management does suck, yes. That's why the team has had the decade it has had.

The coach sucks, yes. I have thought this since he was in NY and warned against hiring him ever since.

The owner sucks only because they don't have the strength to do what needs to be done; firing everyone with any ties to Clarke and starting over again from scratch. This team is so far gone that folding the franchise and restarting as an expansion would be faster and easier. And they just keep letting it slide deeper.

Some of the players do indeed suck, which reflects upon management valuing players who suck.

What doesn't suck? Well, several players. Michkov, and the fact that unlike other teams they didn't fail to pick him. Loved the Ciernik pick and still do. Love that Tortorella lets dmen be aggressive. Hakstol has shown that it's completely possible for neither forwards nor dmen to be aggressive, so we know things could be worse and aren't.

You don't seem to realize how bad things have been. People still say "ha at least we aren't Buffalo or Columbus or Arizona or Vancouver or Montreal." But we are. We absolutely are. That is the tier the Flyers are in. And hell, the latter three have seen the Conference Finals more recently than the Flyers. And the team has shown no sign of changing. They're continuing all the same processes they've always followed.
 

Rich Nixon

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You don't seem to realize how bad things have been. People still say "ha at least we aren't Buffalo or Columbus or Arizona or Vancouver or Montreal." But we are. We absolutely are. That is the tier the Flyers are in. And hell, the latter three have seen the Conference Finals more recently than the Flyers. And the team has shown no sign of changing. They're continuing all the same processes they've always followed.

For the best comparison, I like to look outside the sport of hockey.

This is a big-market franchise that runs on the fumes of two distant championships and has managed to f*** up every decision it has made ever since. We root for the Ice Mets.
 

Flyerfan4life

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The fans are fans.

The medical staff clearly sucks and has for ages. Go back to Lindros and come forward through Couturier's current handling. Tons of nonstop malfeasance because everyone in this org glorifies and festishizes playing through injuries. Mason and Schenn playing through concussions, Simmonds destroying himself as they cheered him on, Couturier destroying himself as they cheered him on, Konecny currently, Lappy playing with brain damage, Richards needing surgery but it being delayed until postseason during which time he just ate painkillers to get through, the endless litany of players coming back too soon and getting reinjured, it's just constant.

Management does suck, yes. That's why the team has had the decade it has had.

The coach sucks, yes. I have thought this since he was in NY and warned against hiring him ever since.

The owner sucks only because they don't have the strength to do what needs to be done; firing everyone with any ties to Clarke and starting over again from scratch. This team is so far gone that folding the franchise and restarting as an expansion would be faster and easier. And they just keep letting it slide deeper.

Some of the players do indeed suck, which reflects upon management valuing players who suck.

What doesn't suck? Well, several players. Michkov, and the fact that unlike other teams they didn't fail to pick him. Loved the Ciernik pick and still do. Love that Tortorella lets dmen be aggressive. Hakstol has shown that it's completely possible for neither forwards nor dmen to be aggressive, so we know things could be worse and aren't.

You don't seem to realize how bad things have been. People still say "ha at least we aren't Buffalo or Columbus or Arizona or Vancouver or Montreal." But we are. We absolutely are. That is the tier the Flyers are in. And hell, the latter three have seen the Conference Finals more recently than the Flyers. And the team has shown no sign of changing. They're continuing all the same processes they've always followed.
imagine truely believing the Flyers are on their way! when 50+ years of the same results says otherwise...
 

Larry44

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I love the way he polarizes people.

I am friends with some Sabres fans and mid season the talk was "we need a real coach to drive these lazy players, we need a Torts" and now after this slide the talk is "see, Torts is a dinosaur and an idiot glad we didn't go that route". Just hilarious.
Personally, I've had #FireTortsNOW on my avatar since he was hired, LOL! The only way Chuckles the Sad Clown could have done worse than AV was to hire this jackass.
 

Rich Nixon

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Personally, I've had #FireTortsNOW on my avatar since he was hired, LOL! The only way Chuckles the Sad Clown could have done worse than AV was to hire this jackass.

Chuck didn't hire Torts--an independent consulting firm hired by Comcast Spectacor.

(more evidence that this franchise is indeed garbage, by the way? employing a GM you don't even trust enough to hire your next coach, but not firing him until after he botched another entire season and trade deadline)
 

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