Blue Jays Discussion: The official Danny Jackson Appreciation Society

[phillipmike]

Braves acquire Brad Hand

 

[Discoverer]

Danner should at least have value as a secondary piece in a trade. Thompson seems more like a guy you just move somewhere else to give him a better opportunity to play in the majors.

 

[DuklaNation]

Bichette injury looked like a mild knee sprain. Hopefully that's all it is and he's just out 2-3 weeks.

 

[red devil]

 

[Vector]

 

[phillipmike]

 

[canucksfan]

Non trade related news

 

[Ale Brew]

Both DeJong and Teo? Provided the price is reasonable could really help.

 

[MS]

Ugh, do not like.

DeJong is below the Mendoza Line over the past 3 years. He's just another Espinal/Biggio-level warm body who might be slightly above replacement level and can't hit.

 

[canucksfan]

What's the scoop with DeJong? Bat is below average but his defensive stats looks pretty good.

 

[Bjindaho]

Ugh, do not like.

DeJong is below the Mendoza Line over the past 3 years. He's just another Espinal/Biggio-level warm body who might be slightly above replacement level and can't hit.

He's a backup SS with control. He's an Espinal for me.

 

[Hoverhand]

"we have Paul DeJong at home"

 

[MS]

He's a backup SS with control. He's an Espinal for me.

We already have too many backup middle-infielders who can't hit.

If Bichette is out, I'm not sure how DeJong is an upgrade on Espinal.

 

[phillipmike]

DeJong is 14th among SS and has a higher fWAR than Trea Turner, Adames, Correra, and Pena.

DeJong also has 123 OPS+ vs LHP and and 119 with RISP. Also is currently 7th in SS DEF rating.

He will add value.

This is a high quality backup that can start.

 

[canucksfan]

DeJong is 14th among SS and has a higher fWAR than Trea Turner, Adames, Correra, and Pena.

DeJong also has 123 OPS+ vs LHP and and 119 with RISP. Also is currently 7th in SS DEF rating.

He will add value.

This is a high quality backup.

Looks like he would be an upgrade over Espinal who has struggled defensively this year.

 

[Eyedea]

We already have too many backup middle-infielders who can't hit.

If Bichette is out, I'm not sure how DeJong is an upgrade on Espinal.

He has more homeruns than Espinal and Biggio combined? Even if he gets on base the same rate, his power is significantly higher than Espinal's. Plus he's one of the best defensive SS in the game.

 

[Discoverer]

Ugh, do not like.

DeJong is below the Mendoza Line over the past 3 years. He's just another Espinal/Biggio-level warm body who might be slightly above replacement level and can't hit.

That includes a BABIP of .213 and .216 the last two seasons. It's normalized this year (.289) and he has a 96 wRC+ with strong defense at SS. If Espinal and Biggio were having the kinds of seasons they had last year, I would agree. Unfortunately, they're not.

(Also, I'm not convinced it'll hold up because it's still a small sample that doesn't match his career splits, but he has a 129 wRC+ against lefties this year.)

 

[phillipmike]

Its done

 

[Eyedea]

Had a feeling this would happen. Also kinda worried that Bichette will now be out longer than anticipated.

 

[Bjindaho]

I don't worry about acquiring Dejong. I worry about the price.

 

[Hoverhand]

this is probably strictly a Bichette replacement. Offensive upgrades are still to come (Hopefully).

 

[WeThreeKings]

Probably gonna be Orelvis or Barger or something stupid

 

[Hoverhand]

Probably gonna be Orelvis or Barger or something stupid

lol settle down

 

[canucksfan]

Hate the anticipation on who they’ve given up

 

[MS]

That includes a BABIP of .213 and .216 the last two seasons. It's normalized this year (.289) and he has a 96 wRC+ with strong defense at SS. If Espinal and Biggio were having the kinds of seasons they had last year, I would agree. Unfortunately, they're not.

(Also, I'm not convinced it'll hold up because it's still a small sample that doesn't match his career splits, but he has a 129 wRC+ against lefties this year.)

Those numbers vs. LHP are, as you say, a very small sample size that doesn't match his career numbers at all so I'm not putting any stock in them.

DeJong has been worth 0.9 WAR and Espinal 0.2 WAR this year in about half the playing time. It's probably a very marginal upgrade.

Hopefully the price is low.

And unfortunately adding a SS probably means Bichette is out long-term. Ugh.