Blue Jays Discussion: The official Danny Jackson Appreciation Society

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hockeywiz542

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TORONTO – Into the home stretch before Tuesday’s 6 p.m. ET trade deadline and hot in pursuit of at least one bat, the Toronto Blue Jays must now consider another pivotal variable after Bo Bichette hurt his right knee running the bases and left Monday’s 4-2 loss to the Baltimore Orioles.

The club attributed the all-star shortstop’s departure to “discomfort,” a diagnosis termed just vaguely enough to keep everyone guessing about what it really means. Given Bichette’s steely determination and relentless work ethic, anything bad enough to force him from a game will be deeply troubling for a team that hours earlier welcomed Jordan Hicks to the bullpen.

Afterward, Blue Jays manager John Schneider said the team "probably will know more tomorrow."

Having already paid a significant price for one of the game’s hardest throwers, the Blue Jays have hunting for an offensive piece to augment a group that feels one bat light. A reunion with Teoscar Hernandez and the suddenly selling Seattle Mariners is believed to be among the options on their list while infielder Tim Anderson of the tearing down Chicago White Sox is another possibility to at least be under some consideration.

But with Bichette having walked off the field after rounding first on a single to right, stopping on his way to second and pulling up grabbing at his right knee in the third inning, a reprioritization of their needs in the final hours of trading season may well be necessary.

Anderson, who comes with a $14-million club option for next year, isn’t the only short-term option available. St. Louis Cardinals shortstop Paul DeJong is another option – he comes with club options of $12.5 million for 2024 and $15 million for 2025 – and intriguingly, Blue Jays GM Ross Atkins said during the talks about Hicks, “we did exchange bigger concepts and talked about several of their players – that's usually the case.”

Whether that’s DeJong or other potential fits like outfielders Tyler O’Neill or Dylan Carlson wasn’t immediately clear, but it’s pretty clear the Blue Jays need to keep bolstering the roster to fully leverage the group currently in place.

Even after parting with double-A starters Sem Robberse and Adam Kloffenstein, Atkins insisted the Blue Jays “are in a strong position” in terms of prospect capital and added that he and his staff “do see opportunities” for additional trades.


Bichette’s status is an unwelcomed addition into the mix.
 
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Bjindaho

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It's very strange how they can't get guys to score. They get guys on base just fine, but then they turn to Ryan Goins when they bat with runners in scoring position.

Here are the worst guys this year's career numbers:

Springer career:

RISP
742113391950023644444375295168234.257.373.457.83042041170261012.288100

Chapman career:
RISP5638326893211724842825342103225.250.350.453.803312201602426.313102

Kiermaier career:
RISP586878753339182271015233471189193.242.326.364.69027414138151212.29894

Varsho career:
RISP2223382881146713381011603580.233.316.382.698110743834.28499

Belt career:
8911387113147328971113940571214338.256.373.441.8144992414127363.32010
 

Hoverhand

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I'll eat my hat if they bring back Teoscar. I love him but I just don't think he offers what they're looking for. My guess is someone with 1 more year of control that hasn't been rumoured as much, they'll probably part with a well liked prospect (Jimenez?)
 
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Eyedea

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Just need to keep talking with our Bird Bros of the NL and grab one of DeJong/Edman + Carlson. They should forever be indebted to us after giving them E Jax + Dotel + Scrabble for their 2011 WS run
 
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Just need to keep talking with our Bird Bros of the NL and grab one of DeJong/Edman + Carlson. They should forever be indebted to us after giving them E Jax + Dotel + Scrabble for their 2011 WS run
One of DeJong/Edman plus one of Carlson/O'Neill would be amazing, and it would set them up nicely for the next couple years, too. I would also cost a LOT to get that done.
 

Eyedea

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One of DeJong/Edman plus one of Carlson/O'Neill would be amazing, and it would set them up nicely for the next couple years, too. I would also cost a LOT to get that done.

I'd feel pretty comfortable headlining it with a Barger/Martinez knowing we have the other one in the system, plus a collective following them in Jimenez/Palmegianni/De Jesus/Doughty/Toman/Beltre. Only untouchable imo is Tieds unless we're getting a legit star
 
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MS

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Ha Seong Kim could be a solid pick up too.

He's on pace for a 7-8 WAR season and has 3 years of team control remaining on a contract paying him peanuts. He would cost an absolute fortune. Like, Tiedemann + Orelvis.

No idea why SD would even think about moving him. They'll sell a couple things now but they'll be right back to all-in next year and he's been their best position player this year. 2nd in the NL in WAR.
 

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Yanks are listening in all their pending free agents which means they are waiving the flag as they should. Not sure who they could even offer to anyone though
 

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Lol at those Cards announcers. That's what infuriates me about baseball play by play and twitter. That was one of the most obvious intentional hit by pitch ever. First pitch was at the batter's head but missed, second one was on his ass. Easy ejection, Cards broadcaster are idiots. I guarantee if they warned the benches (required to warn both) the Cubs broadcast would go insane over why are the Cubs getting warned they didn't do anything wrong. So now if the Cubs retaliate they are the ones who get ejected for something the Cards started. If the umpires do nothing both would complain now it's open season on the batters umpires are letting it go now. Ejection is the right move.

The homerism is out of control and they take it out on the umpires. Then the millions of people watching or reading online think everything is the umpires fault. It trickles down, parents start yelling at the 16 year old umpire doing their 6 year old's T-Ball game making $40. And they wonder why there is a huge shortage of youth umpires and referees.

The Phil Nevin thing after the game is another perfect example too. Angels fans see that and think it's okay to approach the umpires after the game. Not to mention the pitch was actually a strike, AppleTV's strikezone plot is off. If you watch carefully, the ball never went where the TV thing had it on screen.

I've had that happen to me after a Midget game but I didn't have police or the other coaches to restrain him. It was 4 on 1 (2 players, coach and parent) trapped me against my car. Gave me a lecture about how I should let teenagers swear at me because that's just how they talk all the time.
 
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