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canucksfan said:
Edward Duran is a 19-year-old catcher who is playing with Dunedin. Small sample size but he's doing very well with Dunedin and with a larger sample he did very well in the FCL.

I looked up where they got him, and he was included in the Bass and Pop trade.
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I noticed a couple days ago that he was off to a hot start with Dunedin and came to post pretty much exactly what you did when I saw he hit a pair of doubles today. Limited power so far, but his overall numbers are fantastic. Not bad for the throw-in to a bigger trade.
 
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Angels paid a bigggg price and that might be good news for us. Our competitors will have to pay more for starting pitching, something we don’t need.
 
Marty2544 said:
Ohtani no longer pitching in TO on Friday, he’s starting game 1 of a doubleheader tomorrow against the Tigers
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Which is fine because the Friday games is a dumb AppleTV+ one so the audience is going to be much smaller.

Well, obviously it's also fine because they dodge facing an elite pitcher, but from a watchability perspective it's nice that we're not robbed of Ohtani time on account of Apple dickery.
 
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canucksfan said:
Edward Duran is a 19-year-old catcher who is playing with Dunedin. Small sample size but he's doing very well with Dunedin and with a larger sample he did very well in the FCL.

I looked up where they got him, and he was included in the Bass and Pop trade.
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I mentioned it a couple weeks back when I noticed him as well but I really like how the Jays are getting these "throw in" guys in some of the win now trades the Jays have made recently.

Combining 4 win now trades in the past year and a bit the Jays might come out with the better win now players, and the better prospects.

They've traded Grichuk, Groshans, Frasso, Brito, and Teo for Tapia, Pinto, Pop, Bass, Duran, White, De Jesus, Swanson, and Macko.

Those were all either win now trades or moving money/assets to other areas of need but they somehow turn Frasso, and Groshans into Pinto, De Jesus, Duran, and Macko in the process while dumping money and shoring up the pen. You're not going to hit on every throw in prospect you get back but they all look like decent gambles.

People obviously don't like giving up Frasso for the tire fire that's been Mitch White, but even in that deal it wasn't just selling off the entire farm, they're still trying to try to win the better side of prospect swaps to help backfill prospect losses, even if they do end up on the wrong side every once in a while.
 
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That is a fugly trade. Everything about what Syndergaard has done this year suggests that he will not be improving this year (slower 4 seam and faster slider usually suggest an injury that hasn't been caught yet)
 
Bjindaho said:
That is a fugly trade. Everything about what Syndergaard has done this year suggests that he will not be improving this year (slower 4 seam and faster slider usually suggest an injury that hasn't been caught yet)
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Is it possible for both teams to win and lose the same trade? Rosario is decent vs lefties, but he has zero power and can't field.

Maybe the change of scenery can help either player. But yeah, it's essentially dust for dust
 
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Seath The Scaleless said:
Is it possible for both teams to win and lose the same trade? Rosario is decent vs lefties, but he has zero power and can't field.

Maybe the change of scenery can help either player. But yeah, it's essentially dust for dust
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I like it for the Dodgers a lot more than for Cleveland. I could see Rosario bouncing back to some extent and being a solid situational bench piece, especially if his defense improves at non-SS positions.

But I don't see any redeeming qualities left with Syndergaard at this point. I wasn't interested in him at all last year, and now his velocity and K/whiff rates have continued to crater. He's just really, really bad.
 
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Bjindaho said:
That is a fugly trade. Everything about what Syndergaard has done this year suggests that he will not be improving this year (slower 4 seam and faster slider usually suggest an injury that hasn't been caught yet)
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Seath The Scaleless said:
Is it possible for both teams to win and lose the same trade? Rosario is decent vs lefties, but he has zero power and can't field.

Maybe the change of scenery can help either player. But yeah, it's essentially dust for dust
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Discoverer said:
I like it for the Dodgers a lot more than for Cleveland. I could see Rosario bouncing back to some extent and being a solid situational bench piece, especially if his defense improves at non-SS positions.

But I don't see any redeeming qualities left with Syndergaard at this point. I wasn't interested in him at all last year, and now his velocity and K/whiff rates have continued to crater. He's just really, really bad.
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Syndergaard is absolutely cooked and he'll probably be out of MLB in 2024.

Rosario is having a very bad defensive season but he's only 27 and was worth 4.2 WAR in 2022. I like the odds that he can rebound or be shifted to 2B or a useful utility player a hell of a lot more than the odds of Syndergaard ever throwing effectively again.
 
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