Confirmed with Link: The new coach of the Philadelphia Flyers is John Tortorella

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he prolly answered the phone, laffed and hung up


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I’m picturing the Flyers hired an entire brass band, Gritty is doing some silly stunt, and Fletcher is waiting in his best suit……when Trotz calls 15 minutes before the interview and says he’s not coming today. Chuck replies, “Not a problem, sir!” And then cries after Trotz abruptly hangs up. Took an hour for Flahr to get him out of the bathroom stall.
 
I’m picturing the Flyers hired an entire brass band, Gritty is doing some silly stunt, and Fletcher is waiting in his best suit……when Trotz calls 15 minutes before the interview and says he’s not coming today. Chuck replies, “Not a problem, sir!” And then cries after Trotz abruptly hangs up. Took an hour for Flahr to get him out of the bathroom stall.
I would expect nothing less from our Septic Tank Commander.
 
Trotz would interview here only to get the market hotter (offer higher) from the team(s) he really wants to go to.
I'm betting on Vegas, similar to the Caps when Trotz took over.

Flyers would offer the interview to show they're trying, but I'm sure the internal argument is between a Dino HC (Torts, Maurice, etc) and a development oriented guy (Montgomery, Groulx, etc).

It's hilarious that you think Fletcher isnt in full agreement with Clarke and his cronies, and vice versa.

He was brought in expressly because he thinks like them and values the same things as them. They didn't bring him in because he'd be another self-thinking renegade going against them like Hextall.

It's been years now. There is no indication of this internal argument in the slightest. It's a fantasy you dreamed up to pretend Fletcher might be good.
 
What are the better options?
Hope Sullivan shakes free AND wants to come here?
Groulx?
Trotz or another Dino.

At least Montgomery will work with and play the kids, at worst, if he doesn't work out, he should leave a more talented team for his successor.
 
But what moron of an owner would interview the guy not knowing if he'd be allowed back anyway? You nearly certainly would always approach Bettman before interviewing him.

Oh, I know one.

I think we need a situation where the Flyers interview Q and offer to hire him only for the NHL to tell them no. That would be peak Flyers. Inject it into my veins.

I mean, you’re talking about an organization that gave Pronger a 35+ contract without knowing they were giving him a 35+ contract.

The incompetence is strong.
 


I love how the concept of offense AND defense both being capable of thriving is anathema to HockeyGuys. If you cannot get elite numbers out of an elite offensive player that is a major f***ing problem, even if you manage to overachieve in some ways. It also conveniently ignores how drastically scoring has gone up these last few years. Getting 65 point paces out of Barzal is a cry for help.

The Islanders were a one-way 35-37-10 team the year before Trotz got there (undeniably bad, 29th in xGF%), and they were a 37-35-10 in his last year, which doesn't count. Guys like Pulock and Pelech were in their first full seasons too in 2017-18; their goalies were upgraded massively in that timespan. Over Trotz' years the Isles finished 16th, 20th, 11th, 22nd in xGF%. While acknowledging Trotz is still on the above-average end of the spectrum, it's amazing how the narrative around him has changed in 5 years.
 
But Trotz won a SC so everyone is falling over the guy. They’re forgetting that he’s a defensive coach first who has usually smothered the offensive capacity of his teams. If your club is defensively deficient, then maybe he’s your guy. However it’s going to come at a cost. Your offense is going to rot and I hope that your fans like boring hockey. Also he will play mediocre vets ahead of the organization’s young guys so don’t expect much player development. For the Flyers, I don’t see a great fit.
 
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