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sethro109

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I can't stand Apple. When I'm forced to use a MacBook or iPad I immediately get disgruntled. I vastly prefer Windows over macOS. Everything just feels wrong and out of place. Linux is just meh. Haven't looked at it in years, but I remember having issues finding drivers. Windows is really the only option if you like gaming too.
 
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McMetal

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I've always been an Android guy myself. My dad used to work for Google so I obviously got my start on smartphones that way and it stuck. I never liked Apple anyway, iTunes was some of the worst software I've ever used, and I even replaced my old iPod with a knockoff version as soon as I could. Apple always struck me as an "all style, no substance" brand, where the point was just the status of having it rather than the functional, practical use.
 

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Pro Apple here. No lag on iPhones whereas my Android phones have been sloppier
 

expatriatedtexan

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I was getting to the point where I was really considering switching back to my stupid phone. My old Razr flip phone. I still think that was the best built, most well crafted cellphone created.

That being said, I saw that Motorola has a new smart Razr flip phone which I'm trying to find reviews for. All I really do any more is make phone calls, text my wife and use bluetooth to stream music in the car. When I travel it's nice to use the airline flight apps but...it's a phone that stores music. How smart does it have to be?
 

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It is just different to use, when you get used to it, I think you'll like it better. Like Mac vs PC.... my old job forced me to have an Android phone (Pixel 4) for the last couple years I was there. I got used to using the Android, but my iPhone (an outdated then and now very outdated XR) was just a superior experience. I really like some of what Android offers, but iOS is just better in the day to day.


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Update: Okay yeah you’re right :laugh: it’s growing on me. If it wasn’t for the fact that my phone died and was in need of a new phone ASAP I don’t think I’d have ever picked an iPhone but I get the hype a bit more now.

Still though, if Android releases a phone with good battery life and it isn’t 8 feet wide I’ll be going back to the droid.
 
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Bonzai12

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pretty odd but I have a lot of foreign in-laws and we bought them a Blu phone. It's got an android system but I think it's like the Blu 90.....The thing only cost me $160 bucks and feels like an Iphone.....I'm a 100% apple guy - developing software is just easier with a mac.....but I can't stand shelling out $1200 every 3 years when my Iphone's battery goes down the toilet.
 

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I can't stand Apple. When I'm forced to use a MacBook or iPad I immediately get disgruntled. I vastly prefer Windows over macOS. Everything just feels wrong and out of place. Linux is just meh. Haven't looked at it in years, but I remember having issues finding drivers. Windows is really the only option if you like gaming too.
I'm a pretty big linux diehard, and what Valve has been doing with Proton has gotten to the point where I have replaced my Windows gaming box with linux now. But I mostly play single player games so it's easier to get those working. Steam Deck has been a huge benefit for linux gaming.
 
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henchman21

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I in general hate the wasteful design of cellphones. They should be upgradable, rather than disposable.
I think that is the nature of the technology. The demand for phones to get more powerful, more power efficient, and controlling the costs necessitates a disposable nature. Designing a phone with expandable RAM, swappable SoCs, etc would add a lot of complexity to the manufacturing process, supply chain, and stifles innovation. I highly doubt we'd be on a 5nm node with 3nm on the horizon if we had to design around upgradability. It is very wasteful to go down this path, but the demand for more everything pretty much necessitates it.
 

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And besides, if things were upgradable instead of disposable there wouldn’t be thousands of lobsters at the bottom of the ocean discovering the tech scene. It’s a soon to be booming market.
 
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I think that is the nature of the technology. The demand for phones to get more powerful, more power efficient, and controlling the costs necessitates a disposable nature. Designing a phone with expandable RAM, swappable SoCs, etc would add a lot of complexity to the manufacturing process, supply chain, and stifles innovation. I highly doubt we'd be on a 5nm node with 3nm on the horizon if we had to design around upgradability. It is very wasteful to go down this path, but the demand for more everything pretty much necessitates it.
Harder to do for phones, but I really like my Framework laptop. Totally modular like that.
 

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I think that is the nature of the technology. The demand for phones to get more powerful, more power efficient, and controlling the costs necessitates a disposable nature. Designing a phone with expandable RAM, swappable SoCs, etc would add a lot of complexity to the manufacturing process, supply chain, and stifles innovation. I highly doubt we'd be on a 5nm node with 3nm on the horizon if we had to design around upgradability. It is very wasteful to go down this path, but the demand for more everything pretty much necessitates it.
Oh, I understand it. Doesn't mean I have to like it. But I'll also add that I'm currently using an iPhone SE (2nd Generation). It's now considered ancient by most of my co-workers. Yet...it does absolutely everything fine. So I guess I'm just left wondering what these upgrades everyone keeps chasing actually do? Once they reach a certain point, it seems like it's all just diminishing returns to a certain degree. I'd like larger capacity than I currently have (16GB) for music so I'll probably check out the new SE, but the big thing holding me back from upgrading, aside from not really having to, is that all the phones have become monstrosities approaching the size of my iPad. It's a phone not my main viewing screen and I would truly like a phone the same size as my current one but I suspect I am in the vast minority on wanting a smaller phone.
 
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Oh, I understand it. Doesn't mean I have to like it. But I'll also add that I'm currently using an iPhone SE (2nd Generation). It's now considered ancient by most of my co-workers. Yet...it does absolutely everything fine. So I guess I'm just left wondering what these upgrades everyone keeps chasing actually do? Once they reach a certain point, it seems like it's all just diminishing returns to a certain degree. I'd like larger capacity than I currently have (16GB) for music so I'll probably check out the new SE, but the big thing holding me back from upgrading, aside from not really having to, is that all the phones have become monstrosities approaching the size of my iPad. It's a phone not my main viewing screen and I would truly like a phone the same size as my current one but I suspect I am in the vast minority on wanting a smaller phone.
I can't speak for other people, but for my job I need to use apps like Adobe acrobat and Procore to view and edit plans. Having a more powerful phone saves me A LOT of time. So for me, I'm more after ram and processing power, rather than storage capacity.
 
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henchman21

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Harder to do for phones, but I really like my Framework laptop. Totally modular like that.
Some of the infrastructure is there for that (because computers have been built that way forever) and less of a demand for extreme power efficiency. Still we see more and more laptops moving SoC and apus with memory that can’t be expanded. Costs, design, materials, and supply chains are much easier to manage and performance out of the box is normally better. I mean just look at the new apple silicon computers and how much more performance per dollar and watt than what they got prior.
 
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UncleRisto

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If the emperor of phones came in and said: "Hi guys, phones can't get any better. This is as much as we can do, so we're going to stop developing them."

I'd go "Well, f***ing about time", and buy whatever bullshit HTC they had for me.
 

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Hope all my Avs friends have been well this offseason and have had a blessed summer celebrating our win! I just got tix to Avs @ Leafs for my friend and I today and could NOT be any more excited. March 15th, are you here yet???!!! :D
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