Speculation: The Athletic-“So, it’s easy to imagine a scenario in which the Ducks move on from Zegras..."

[MCB]

Proposal: - Zegras -> MTL

Proposal: - Zegras to HABS

Proposal: - Trevor Zegras to Montréal

Speculation: - Zegras to Mtl


"HaBs FaNs DoNt WaNt ZeGrAs! He SuCkS!

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[Zegs2sendhelp]

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The part about consistency.

We just dodged a bullet with Dubois, not too interested in trying another one.

If Morgan Frost is available, maybe there is something there. Likely far cheaper to acquire.

id be more worried about consistency if zegras was 25/26 but I think young player struggling with consistency is a very normal issue. Especially on bad teams

Frost struggles with consistency and doesn’t have the upside of zegras, but yes would be much cheaper to acquire.

Sorry added to original post.

 

[HabsAddict]

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id be more worried about consistency if zegras was 25/26 but I think young player struggling with consistency is a very normal issue.

Frost struggles with consistency and doesn’t have the upside of zegras, but yes would be much cheaper to acquire.

Sorry added to original post.

Let's see what happens.

I trust Hughes will do a lot more due diligence then the previous clown.

The upside is that we have a pile of LHDs and 4 1st rounders (or more) the next two drafts.

Who knows, maybe Frost and Zegras are added and nuclear speed up of our rebult.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Let's see what happens.

I trust Hughes will do a lot more due diligence then the previous clown.

The upside is that we have a pile of LHDs and 4 1st rounders (or more) the next two drafts.

Who knows, maybe Frost and Zegras are added and nuclear speed up of our rebult.

I feel like the habs should just continue to do what they are doing and see how things pan out personally(same thing I feel Anaheim should do)… it’s tough to really gauge players when the teams around them arnt good.

Montreal has gotten some nice pieces making risky trade for high potential guys like newhook and dach.

If zegras was in a situation where Montreal could get him cheap then sure grab him, but I don’t think that’s the reality of the zegras situation right now

 

[JustAHabFan]

The idea that a single skater can kill a team's chances is completely absurd and shouldn't be taken seriously.

I can give you an example: Dubois.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I can give you an example: Dubois.

You think Pierre-Luc Dubois single-handedly kills a team's chances on the playoffs because he's playing at like a 0.5PPG clip or whatever it is?

That's absurd. Weren't they red-hot for like the first half of the season if he was sucking balls?

 

[lwvs84]

He's so good then there is no reason to trade him.

Unlike BargainBin (who is now in LA), Hughes does not panic. His history tells us he sets his price and waits it out. If not, he moves on.

Ducks fans aren't the ones wanting to move him, look at all the people making offers... it's mostly low ball offers by other teams fans. And I don't think Ducks fans are calling him anything more than a good 2C or complimentary top line winger. You're just not guaranteed to get that outside of the top 5 picks (and depending on the draft, not even guaranteed to get that in the top 5).

 

[HabsAddict]

I feel like the habs should just continue to do what they are doing and see how things pan out personally(same thing I feel Anaheim should do)… it’s tough to really gauge players when the teams around them arnt good.

Montreal has gotten some nice pieces making risky trade for high potential guys like newhook and dach.

If zegras was in a situation where Montreal could get him cheap then sure grab him, but I don’t think that’s the reality of the zegras situation right now

Zegras could be magic with CC. MAYBE...

But it's also a hard core hockey city. Even superstars like Price had tough times from the masses.

Maybe a few Frosts are better then 1 star. I'm good with 6 Tofollis on the top 6.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

You think Pierre-Luc Dubois single-handedly kills a team's chances on the playoffs because he's playing at like a 0.5PPG clip or whatever it is?

That's absurd. Weren't they red-hot for like the first half of the season if he was sucking balls?

Also comparing zegras to Dubois is pretty big reach

 

[JustAHabFan]

You think Pierre-Luc Dubois single-handedly kills a team's chances on the playoffs because he's playing at like a 0.5PPG clip or whatever it is?

That's absurd. Weren't they red-hot for like the first half of the season if he was sucking balls?

It's not Dubois's performance that destroyed LA chance for playoff. It's his personality that destroyed the team.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Zegras could be magic with CC. MAYBE...

But it's also a hard core hockey city. Even superstars like Price had tough times from the masses.

Maybe a few Frosts are better then 1 star. I'm good with 6 Tofollis on the top 6.

Which is fair opinion/takes, and I can respect that.

It gets more annoying when people come into these threads offering scraps and then shitting on the player when the other fan base doesn’t want scraps for a player most of us consider a core player for us

It's not Dubois's performance that destroyed LA chance for playoff. It's his personality that destroyed the team.

Zegras is very popular with his teammates/coaches/ fans and workers/staff in the arena.

He’s not popular with old school hockey fans, and Canada fan base .

 

[vokiel]

Proposal: - Zegras -> MTL

Proposal: - Zegras to HABS

Proposal: - Trevor Zegras to Montréal

Speculation: - Zegras to Mtl


"HaBs FaNs DoNt WaNt ZeGrAs! He SuCkS!

(I stopped searching at page 2 of 14 of the search results)

The losers in Montreal are so afraid we're getting him that they're about to start protests and unscrew statues.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

It's not Dubois's performance that destroyed LA chance for playoff. It's his personality that destroyed the team.

Uh, I guess this is a citation needed moment. Dubois is having an awful year but I'd be curious to read a report about his personality 'destroying' the team.

 

[HabsAddict]

Uh, I guess this is a citation needed moment. Dubois is having an awful year but I'd be curious to read a report about his personality 'destroying' the team.

I linked an article about that and the Jets somewhere in the back pages

 

[Bouboumaster]

the issue is what habs fans have offered or suggested have been pretty stupid.

We’ve seen what the habs payed for dach/newhook and zegras is worth at least double what those guys were worth at the time of trade

If a trade happened it would be at the draft, but I think it’s very unlikely

I also understand that our teams are built in a similar fashion, and what is expandable for us, you already have

 

[ole ole]

Def multidimensional, and softness isn’t a great arguement when he’s more physical than a lot of guys like caufield newhook and dach


That’s fine and you can just say you don’t want to pay the price, doesn’t mean that’s not his worth and doesn’t mean you have to try to talk down an obvious good nhl player.

But Montreal fans are spending a lot of time in here trying to talk him down , rather than just saying the fit isn’t good

Because your asking for an outrageous price doesn't mean he is worth it.
The fit could be good but the asking price is in left field.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Because your asking for an outrageous price doesn't mean he is worth it.
The fit could be good but the asking price is in left field.

I havnt even really said a price in here... all ive mentioned was Montreal has paid mid 1st + 3rd and 1st + 2nd for guys like newhook and dach... who were at the time of the trade much worse than zegras.

Why would we take scrap pieces for zegras? Hes a controlled asset with a high upside... youd have to motivate us to move him if you wanted him.

 

[ole ole]

the issue is what habs fans have offered or suggested have been pretty stupid.

We’ve seen what the habs payed for dach/newhook and zegras is worth at least double what those guys were worth at the time of trade

If a trade happened it would be at the draft, but I think it’s very unlikely

Well if he's traded we'll see if he hauls in a low 1st which is more and likely in the top 7 and another 2- 1st rd picks.
If he does than kudos to you and the Ducks.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Well if he's traded we'll see if he hauls in a low 1st which is more and likely in the top 7 and another 2- 1st rd picks.
If he does than kudos to you and the Ducks.

Do you think hes worth more or less than Dach at the time of his trade?

And for the record, i dont want him moved and dont think hell be moved.

 

[ole ole]

Do you think hes worth more or less than Dach at the time of his trade?

I don't think he's worth a top 7 and another 2 more 1st rd picks.
I have the Habs 1st rd pick off the table for him.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I don't think he's worth a top 7 and another 2 more 1st rd picks.
I have the Habs 1st rd pick off the table for him.

So what do you consider a trade for zegras to look like?

Winnipegs 1st
2nd round pick
Harris/roy/struble?

And do you think anaheim would consider your offer

 

[ole ole]

So what do you consider a trade for zegras to look like?

Winnipegs 1st
2nd round pick
Harris/roy/struble?

What i'm not willing to give up is the Habs 1st so i guess that kills any offer unless you can come up with some ideal that wouldn't involve our 1st
So What would it take from us for you to say yes if our 1st is off the table?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

What i'm not willing to give up is the Habs 1st so i guess that kills any offer unless you can come up with some ideal that wouldn't involve our 1st
So What would it take from us for you to say yes if our 1st is off the table?

Ive always maintained we were bad trade partners in terms of zegras.

Montreal org strengths are similar to ours. A highish 1st might be of interest, but if thats off the board, the only other realistic pieces are pieces that Montreal wouldnt want to move (like reinbacher/slaf).

The rest is just stuff we already have in our org, and wed be creating a hole moving zegras... if slaf reinbacher and your 1st are off the table, then i dont really see a world where zegras goes to montreal. And thats fine, i dont blame montreal for not wanting to pay that price, but id be disappointed in anaheim/pv if they took anything less than that.

 

[viceroy]

Most Hab fans don't want him at the ridiculous price of 3-1st rd picks.

Yeah. I'd go for a Jets' 1st + '25 2nd + Harris/Ylonen/Norlinder/...

You think Pierre-Luc Dubois single-handedly kills a team's chances on the playoffs?

Well Hellebuyck heavily implied that the PLD trade convinced him to sign back on with the Jets.

 

[Ducks]

Ducks fans aren't the ones wanting to move him, look at all the people making offers... it's mostly low ball offers by other teams fans. And I don't think Ducks fans are calling him anything more than a good 2C or complimentary top line winger. You're just not guaranteed to get that outside of the top 5 picks (and depending on the draft, not even guaranteed to get that in the top 5).

Maybe a good 2C right now at 22 years old, but I don't think he's even close to hitting his potential as a top line playmaker. He's only had 2 1/4 seasons so far, he's far from complete. He could still absolutely turn out to be a #1C, but regardless his future is not as a second line player.