Speculation: The Athletic-“So, it’s easy to imagine a scenario in which the Ducks move on from Zegras..."

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Drouin and zegras are hardly anything alike but that’s what Montreal fans want to say because they know they won’t ever have zegras
They are more alike than you wish to admit. Zegras is producing at below Drouin levels this year which is even more concerning as he is a total defensive liability.

I wouldn't take Zegras on the Habs team. That's a disaster waiting to happen. Hughes is smart enough to avoid that.
 

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Drouin and zegras are hardly anything alike but that’s what Montreal fans want to say because they know they won’t ever have zegras
Most Hab fans don't want him at the ridiculous price of 3-1st rd picks.
Than there's always that ONE.
 
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A proven top-6 forward that is one-dimensional and soft. No thanks. You don't win cups with players like that.
Def multidimensional, and softness isn’t a great arguement when he’s more physical than a lot of guys like caufield newhook and dach

Most Hab fans don't want him at the ridiculous price of 3-1st rd picks.
Than there's always that ONE.
That’s fine and you can just say you don’t want to pay the price, doesn’t mean that’s not his worth and doesn’t mean you have to try to talk down an obvious good nhl player.

But Montreal fans are spending a lot of time in here trying to talk him down , rather than just saying the fit isn’t good
 

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Def multidimensional, and softness isn’t a great arguement when he’s more physical than a lot of guys like caufield newhook and dach
Keep telling yourself that! LOL

Sucks that he is unproductive, soft and one-dimensional this year. Can't imagine how horrible that combination is for the Ducks. Its no wonder your GM is looking at the market to see what he can get.
 
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Keep telling yourself that! LOL

Sucks that he is unproductive, soft and one-dimensional this year. Can't imagine how horrible that combination is for the Ducks. It’s no wonder your GM is looking at the market to see what he can get.
I wonder when Canadians will move off the 1 dimensional soft caufield dach and newhook?

I’m sure a click bait article means zegras is available…. Keep dreaming
 

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Guys that move the needle for contention are superstars or close to it. If you're hoping for that in exchange for a few picks including a protected one, then you're gonna have a long wait.
That's my point. Zegras doesn't move the needle. In fact he probably makes the Habs worse. We can't afford anymore soft one-dimensional forwards. We need big, strong forwards like Slafkovsky and Dach.

I wonder when Canadians will move off the 1 dimensional soft caufield dach and newhook?

I’m sure a click bait article means zegras is available…. Keep dreaming
hahahaha. Dach one-dimensional and soft - you are clueless. At least Caufield is producing. Newhook doesn't have an overpaid contract like Zegras.

Zegras is exactly what sinks contenders. Habs made the mistake with Drouin and won't make that mistake again.

Go peddle your mentally weak, soft, one-dimensional liability somewhere else@!
 

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That's my point. Zegras doesn't move the needle. In fact he probably makes the Habs worse. We can't afford anymore soft one-dimensional forwards. We need big, strong forwards like Slafkovsky and Dach.



Go peddle your mentally weak, soft, one-dimensional liability somewhere else@!

Why would I peddle him, I think he’s a very important player for Anaheim, and will be a very good player for us for a long time


He’s def not mentally weak…. Maybe a bit immature and overly cocky at times.
 

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Why would I peddle him, I think he’s a very important player for Anaheim, and will be a very good player for us for a long time
No, you don't. You know better given his complete lack of production this season. Completely quit on his team. Probably happy to be on injured reserve.
 

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No, you don't. You know better given his complete lack of production this season. Completely quit on his team.
He was actually the hardest working player on the team when he was playing, he had some bad luck production wise and has been injured. But his actual on ice play was good…. You won’t find many ducks complaining about his work/effort in the games he played.

Imagine making up a complete false narrative, but I’m sure you saw a YouTube video of the 1 power play where he got sat and decided to run with that cause you don’t like zegras for whatever reason
 

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No, you don't. You know better given his complete lack of production this season. Completely quit on his team. Probably happy to be on injured reserve.

Easy money proposal ... Let's bet over/under on his points the next season he's mostly healthy (let's say 72+). Clearly you think a 28 point pace is expected going forward, so I'll take the over.

Or maybe you think he's quitting and faking injuries ... So 30 or fewer games a season the rest of his career, I'll take the over?

Couple grand?
 

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That's my point. Zegras doesn't move the needle. In fact he probably makes the Habs worse. We can't afford anymore soft one-dimensional forwards. We need big, strong forwards like Slafkovsky and Dach.


hahahaha. Dach one-dimensional and soft - you are clueless. At least Caufield is producing. Newhook doesn't have an overpaid contract like Zegras.

Zegras is exactly what sinks contenders. Habs made the mistake with Drouin and won't make that mistake again.

Go peddle your mentally weak, soft, one-dimensional liability somewhere else@!

This is kind of pathetic. You just come across as a bitter fan who's throwing a tantrum because a hypothetical player won't be acquired for a hypothetical crappy price.
 

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This is kind of pathetic. You just come across as a bitter fan who's throwing a tantrum because a hypothetical player won't be acquired for a hypothetical crappy price.
Pathetic is the player in question. I do not want him at any cost. He's exactly the type of player that kills contending teams chances.

If the Ducks can dump him on a team for a good return, they should do it pronto before Zegras kills any value he has. I can see the Red Wings as a patsy.
 

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Pathetic is the player in question. I do not want him at any cost. He's exactly the type of player that kills contending teams chances.

If the Ducks can dump him on a team for a good return, they should do it pronto before Zegras kills any value he has. I can see the Red Wings as a patsy.
Based on what exactly?
 
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They are more alike than you wish to admit. Zegras is producing at below Drouin levels this year which is even more concerning as he is a total defensive liability.

I wouldn't take Zegras on the Habs team. That's a disaster waiting to happen. Hughes is smart enough to avoid that.
So what you're saying is you're using this year's offense and last year's defense to make your point? Because last year, he was one of the top offensive players on the team, this year his defense actually looked decent. The numbers are bad because of a 12 game stretch where his line looked dangerous but just couldn't finish (mostly Terry who just didn't look right for most of the season until lately). Another Ducks fan posted it, Ducks are 9-10-1 with Zegras so they're 10-23-1 without him. Having him on the ice clearly makes a difference.


Coaches love Zegras, teammates love him, he's good with the fans... Ducks have no reason to give him away. Most drafts (not counting 2023) have 2-4 players as good/better than him in the top 10, and this draft looks like one where 2-12 is a toss up. There will probably be one or two guys outside if Celebrini that are clearly better, but no one knows who they are. If you're talking 8-10 pick, there's a good chance those guys are not there. Ducks have Zegras under contract for 2 more years then he's a RFA. There is no reason to sell him for lesser pieces.

Edit: the record was just posted above too.
 
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Trade deadline should tell us if Hughes is interested.

If our 1st is on the line then there will be other choices out there. One rumour was a center from Philly.

We need another young 2C and have 2 ist in the two drafts. Maybe more to come.
 

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Obviously no, that would be crazy

I'd pay to get Zegras, but that price is stupid
the issue is what habs fans have offered or suggested have been pretty stupid.

We’ve seen what the habs payed for dach/newhook and zegras is worth at least double what those guys were worth at the time of trade

If a trade happened it would be at the draft, but I think it’s very unlikely
 

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So what you're saying is you're using this year's offense and last year's defense to make your point? Because last year, he was one of the top offensive players on the team, this year his defense actually looked decent. The numbers are bad because of a 12 game stretch where his line looked dangerous but just couldn't finish (mostly Terry who just didn't look right for most of the season until lately). Another Ducks fan posted it, Ducks are 9-10-1 with Zegras so they're 10-23-1 without him. Having him on the ice clearly makes a difference.


Coaches love Zegras, teammates love him, he's good with the fans... Ducks have no reason to give him away. Most drafts (not counting 2023) have 2-4 players as good/better than him in the top 10, and this draft looks like one where 2-12 is a toss up. There will probably be one or two guys outside if Celebrini that are clearly better, but no one knows who they are. If you're talking 8-10 pick, there's a good chance those guys are not there. Ducks have Zegras under contract for 2 more years then he's a RFA. There is no reason to sell him for lesser pieces.

Edit: the record was just posted above too.
He's so good then there is no reason to trade him.

Unlike BargainBin (who is now in LA), Hughes does not panic. His history tells us he sets his price and waits it out. If not, he moves on.
 

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Interesting article...

 

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Interesting article...

What part is interesting? Legit question

I don’t think a young player being a little inconsistent is a big red flag… mctavish carlsson have similar trends… I’m sure caufield dach and slaf have consistency issues, cozens has had consistency issues…. Honestly it’s very normal for young players players to struggle with consistency.

His production wasn’t consistent to start the year, but I think his overall play was consistent
 

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