Speculation: Teams inquiring about Nathan Beaulieu : Used as bait for a top 6 LW ?

[smirob]

The Habs are a joke. They need some competent management.

I don't think you'll find many habs fans who disagree on this point

 

[Zrhutch]

I don't think you'll find many habs fans who disagree on this point

The ones that do are really fun to watch though.

 

[Habsfan2731]

The ones that do are really fun to watch though.

We have $12M & 16 years given to Andrew Shaw who's a good but glorified 3rd liner & a 1D who's already started to decline slowly combined.

Our cap situation isn't all that favourable either looking down the road. It's not horrible but it's not as good as can be type of thing.

I really don't think anyone knows which direction they're going on but man, if they don't win a cup within 2 years, we're in deep trouble.

 

[Dominator13]

Honestly, I really don't understand the need for a 2nd line LW whatsoever. We have a lot of prospects who will be auditioning for the role. Guys like Lehkonen, Andrighetto, Carr, Hudon and Sherbak come to mind. They're cheap and will produce just as much as any 3 mil contract LW who will play with Plekanec and Radulov.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Nick Foligno (5.5M) + Scott Hartnell (20% retained @ 3.8M) + Jack Johnson (4.35M)

for

Nathan Beaulieu (1M) + Max Pacioretty (4.5M) + David Desharnais (3.5M)


What it breaks down to:

1) Hartnell retained + Jack Johnson for Beaulieu. Habs get their top-6 LW and a suitable replacement on the left side of their D for Beaulieu.

2) A captain for captain swap. Patches doesn't seem to be in favor with Therrien, and could use a change of scenery. Foligno could play with Galchenyuk and put up similar numbers to when he was playing with Johansen.

3) Desharnais is in there for cap reasons


Habs run with this lineup:

Foligno-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
Hartnell-Plekanec-Radulov
Carr-Danault-Shaw
Flynn-Mitchell-Byron

Markov-Weber
Johnson-Petry
Emelin-Pateryn

And the Jackets go with:

Pacioretty-Dubinksy-Atkinson
Saad-Wennberg-Bjorkstrand
Jenner-Desharnais-Dubois/Anderson
Calvert-Karlsson-Anderson/Gagner

Murray-Jones
Beaulieu-Savard
Werenski-Prout

i just threw up a little bit...
habs say 'no'

 

[Habsfan2731]

Honestly, I really don't understand the need for a 2nd line LW whatsoever. We have a lot of prospects who will be auditioning for the role. Guys like Lehkonen, Andrighetto, Carr, Hudon and Sherbak come to mind. They're cheap and will produce just as much as any 3 mil contract LW who will play with Plekanec and Radulov.

Agreed. I'd much rather see Lehkonen-Plekanec-Radulov/Gallagher

 

[Zrhutch]

We have $12M & 16 years given to Andrew Shaw who's a good but glorified 3rd liner & a 1D who's already started to decline slowly combined.

Our cap situation isn't all that favourable either looking down the road. It's not horrible but it's not as good as can be type of thing.

I really don't think anyone knows which direction they're going on but man, if they don't win a cup within 2 years, we're in deep trouble.

I think the Blackhawks cap situation is probably a good marker for where it's headed unless things change drastically. I get going all in for the remainder of Price's contract. What I don't get is going all in by trading your best player for "culture". Like, what the **** is that?

 

[Habsfan2731]

I think the Blackhawks cap situation is probably a good marker for where it's headed unless things change drastically. I get going all in for the remainder of Price's contract. What I don't get is going all in by trading your best player for "culture". Like, what the **** is that?

I understand them moving PK more than I did at the time, in their eyes, it was a hockey trade that makes them better.

But I just don't understand keeping the coaching staff around after everything, not one firing of the guys that were in charge of the worst season in franchise history?

 

[Jigger77]

"I can give you evidence of this being a bad look, but that doesn't mean you'll believe me." Chill dude. I'm referring to the fact that these moves have been universally panned by most intelligent hockey media, which can be backed up by stats, metrics, **** like that. I for example see no way that they improve with Weber instead of Subban. Shaw for Eller is a wash, plus however more they're paying him. They're a playoff team with Price, but it's gonna go downhill fast without PK.

There is no evidence. Only opinions right now. And because of the success of this management team, and the opinion of the majority of actual hockey professionals about the Weber trade, I disagree with yours. Only time will tell what the "evidence" will be.

 

[CharlesHabsFan]

Lol Francois Gagnon is the one saying this, he's never right about anything.

To be fair, François Gagnon is a well respected journalist. When reporting, he is doing his job. His article include quotes from Marc Bergevin.

Although, Gagnon is highly criticized when stating his own opinion. Some agree, a lot don't. Personally, I don't really care much about his opinion.

Gagnon reported yesterday Bergevin saying he has received calls for Beaulieu.
>Gagnon then stated his opinion that Beaulieu could be used as bait for a top 6 LW.

I agree with a lot of other Canadiens fans here saying that Lehkonen could very well be fitting that role of 2nd line LW. Carr could also be an option. There's no need to trade Beaulieu even if Sergachev is taking his place.

The point is still that Beaulieu somewhat becomes expandable if Sergachev is the one the team wants to bet on... considering Emelin isn't really dumpable anywhere and Bergevin probably doesn't want him bought out. Not like we have any remote idea what the organization is thinking, like others said.

Nichuskin is definitely something I would consider a solid basis for Beaulieu. We probably add something like a 3rd to make it even and Dallas a 5th.

Other than that, as fans of other teams stated, Beaulieu would need to be packaged with other players/picks for a high quality top 6 LW. I can't see many being available and worth it for us. I still think JVR would be a great fit, not sure how well that could end in a trade proposal : Beaulieu+ for JVR ...

 

[HuGo Sham]

Beaulieu for Stafford?

nope

 

[HuGo Sham]

Benoit Pouliot for Beaulieu?

another big ****ing nope from habs

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

ok fineeeee

McNeil for Beaulieu

 

[go4hockey]

Overblown

Yep just keep adding bad guys to the looker room and wonder why no success comes your way.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I dont see us trading beaulieu for a forward unless its a clear overpayment. If we trade beaulieu it will probably be for a better defenseman who will play with Weber. We would have to add to get that obviously

 

[Legend123]

Yep just keep adding bad guys to the looker room and wonder why no success comes your way.

Its overblown by people thinking that MB wont acquire Kane bcuz of personality issues.

We're talking about the GM who traded Subban, after the management and the players said he had no personality issues, and then went on to acquire the most controversial player in hockey in Radulov. What tells you he wont go after Kane if the Buf GM offers him Kane?

 

[Legend123]

We have $12M & 16 years given to Andrew Shaw who's a good but glorified 3rd liner & a 1D who's already started to decline slowly combined.

Our cap situation isn't all that favourable either looking down the road. It's not horrible but it's not as good as can be type of thing.

I really don't think anyone knows which direction they're going on but man, if they don't win a cup within 2 years, we're in deep trouble.

Nah def not in trouble. The habs have a deep enough core of younger players to be a competitive team. If things go down to **** and Price wants to walk, the habs can go for a quick rebuild. Trade big time players for a quick rebuild.

But its more likely the habs dont win the cup nor that the habs sell of thier players. They will probably resign them and do what they have always done. Be good in the season and hope for a playoff run.

 

[darkwingduck]

The Canadiens were rumored to be in on Cam Fowler at the draft, I wonder if trading Beaulieu for a LW to parlay to Cam?

 

[Maukkis]

The Canadiens were rumored to be in on Cam Fowler at the draft, I wonder if trading Beaulieu for a LW to parlay to Cam?

I don't believe the Habs have what the Ducks are looking for.

(unless Galchenyuk or Gallagher have suddenly become a locker room problem...)

 

[Liferleafer]

The Leaf and Habs are on complete opposite ends of the results spectrum in the last few years. Habs went 4 and 0 last year againts the Leafs. Habs went 4 and 0 the year before against the Leafs. But kudos to the Leafs for having a nice shiny management team I guess.

Will things be different in a few years? We'll see, but for now my apologies if I think it's pretty hilarious to hear Leafs fans criticizing anything Montreal.

fans of the Washington Generals (see Harlem Globetrotters) have the right to criticize Habs managment right now...

 

[Liferleafer]

OK...i gotta do it.

To Habs: JVR

To Leafs: Bealieau +?

 

[Jigger77]

fans of the Washington Generals (see Harlem Globetrotters) have the right to criticize Habs managment right now...

I have the right to claim the earth is flat too.

Doesn't make me correct. I respect your opinion on Habs management. But it's just that, an opinion. There is no evidence of them being anywhere near as bad as this thread is claiming. In fact, the evidence points largely to Habs management having done a very good job since they took over.

 

[McSuper]

Edmonton has Klefbom, Sekera, Davidson, Nurse, Reinhart on the left defense.

I can't see them moving a player for another left shooting defender.

But then there the possibility of flipping another D or Beaulieu for a right hand shooting D . Teams that come to mind are Buffalo and Jets need LHD .

I rather do Pouliot + a mid pick . Pouliot is the better player but base on cap hit I would rather him being move , but only if someone like Cagguila is ready for the NHL , Or maybe we put Versteeg on the LW

 

[Jigger77]

OK...i gotta do it.

To Habs: JVR

To Leafs: Bealieau +?

I'd think long about this one, actually. Always liked JVR.

 

[ManofSteel55]

But then there the possibility of flipping another D or Beaulieu for a right hand shooting D . Teams that come to mind are Buffalo and Jets need LHD .

I rather do Pouliot + a mid pick . Pouliot is the better player but base on cap hit I would rather him being move , but only if someone like Cagguila is ready for the NHL , Or maybe we put Versteeg on the LW

Pouliot wasn't very good in Montreal his first time around, can't see them having much interest in bringing him back.