Teams expecting suspensions as 2018 Hockey Canada investigation concludes (update 7/13) up to 8 players from Team Canada to be named

[God]

who knew that punishing people involved in a rape coverup would be controversial lol

 

[WarriorofTime]

None of this has anything to do with "SJW" the "woke" mob or any of that silliness. This isn't about a flag or anything. This is about potentially heinous activity and anyone trying to equate the two situations is being disingenuous.

 

[JKG33]

Baseball suspended a Cy Young winning pitcher (Trevor Bauer) for 2 years over sexual assault allegations.

Major League Baseball suspended Bauer for two years on Friday for violating the league’s domestic violence and sexual assault policy. The suspension covers 324 games, without pay, and runs into the 2024 season. Bauer, 31, had been on administrative leave with pay since last July 2, and because he did not reach an agreement on a penalty, he was not given credit retroactively for time served.

So the MLB made a shitty decision means the NHL should follow suit?

If the players aren't guilty in the court of law, the NHL should not be suspending them. Plain and simple

 

[Mike C]

If the young woman who was the victim in this does not want to relive it why should any details be released to the public? How does that help her?

Releasing the names will be a public service whereas others can avoid interaction with these society bastions

 

[MikeyMike01]

How long until this thread is locked

 

[Mike C]

Expecting 20 pages of:

Hang them all! Bankrupt their families! Ensure a treacherous life for the next three generations!

Vigilante justice baby!

I'M IN!!

 

[Mike C]

How long until this thread is locked

Tonight's Million Dollar Movie

Charles Bronson starring in Death Wish

 

[VivaLasVegas]

How long until this thread is locked

In weeks or months? Got the feeling that this one may go on for a while, especially if names are finally released.

 

[Mike C]

Just so I understand this correctly. U know facts and everything.. and I quote, "The league, In light of the severity of what's ALLEGED , are levelling a penalty they find equally as harsh." Well I guess that's where we are in this day and age . A penalty as harsh, as an alleged incident. Hope I'm wrong..
And before all the pitch forks come out. No I don't agree with rape or sexual assault .NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW ,BUT NO ONE IS BELOW IT EITHER...

Before?

Kim Kardashian wore these crazy cheap shoes, click here!

GOOD GOSH!!

How dare you use the word cheap in conjunction with Kim!!

 

[Buffdog]

It’s sad that there’s so many people on this forum more concerned about an imaginary culture war against the “woke mob” than the actual transgression itself

Alleged transgression

Nothing had been proven in a court of law

 

[Mike C]

Alleged transgression

Nothing had been proven in a court of law

Yes sir. Just a peaceful protest!

 

[willy702]

Amazing to think what I have learned here:

Court of public opinion is more just than the actual criminal or civil courts.

Evidence isn't important, all we need is what some "investigators" paid by a party with a huge vested and financial interest here believe is to be closer to the truth.

Persons who make bad decisions one night when they are 17-20 years old should be banned from making any kind of living. They really should be homeless and hungry it seems.

The people have the right to know dammit about private matters. Details are REQUIRED!

Did I miss anything?

 

[thrillhous]

Can someone that is knowledgeable about this case please share a link to any written decision that has already concluded that a sexual assault took place? Or is this a case where there are allegations made, no decisions yet, and we are waiting for Hockey Canada’s investigation report? Sorry I have no interest in wading through hundreds of posts that are full of emotion but devoid of important facts.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Amazing to think what I have learned here:

Court of public opinion is more just than the actual criminal or civil courts.

Evidence isn't important, all we need is what some "investigators" paid by a party with a huge vested and financial interest here believe is to be closer to the truth.

Persons who make bad decisions one night when they are 17-20 years old should be banned from making any kind of living. They really should be homeless and hungry it seems.

The people have the right to know dammit about private matters. Details are REQUIRED!

Did I miss anything?

Yeah most 17-20 year olds make bad decisions. Most 17-20 year olds don’t participate in a gang rape. It’s pretty gross that you can’t figure out the difference.

 

[Prairie Habs]

Amazing to think what I have learned here:

Court of public opinion is more just than the actual criminal or civil courts.

Evidence isn't important, all we need is what some "investigators" paid by a party with a huge vested and financial interest here believe is to be closer to the truth.

Persons who make bad decisions one night when they are 17-20 years old should be banned from making any kind of living. They really should be homeless and hungry it seems.

The people have the right to know dammit about private matters. Details are REQUIRED!

Did I miss anything?

Ah, yes. When will people realize that the real victims in a gang rape are the rapists?

They face the worst fate of all. PTSD from being gang raped? No. Prison? Don't make me laugh. This is the true hell of maybe not being able to make millions of dollars playing hockey for a little bit.

 

[willy702]

Ah, yes. When will people realize that the real victims in a gang rape are the rapists?

They face the worst fate of all. PTSD from being gang raped? No. Prison? Don't make me laugh. This is the true hell of maybe not being able to make millions of dollars playing hockey for a little bit.

Once again no one said this but you and others keep going on about how anyone who doesn't agree with you must support and condone rape. Rapists aren't those convicted in a court of public opinion. They are convicted in a court of law. Rape is a crime. The punishments for it have been set by legal precedent. What you and others with your wild opinions are telling me is you know better than the legal system and legal precedent what is rape and what the punishments should be.

 

[Christien]

Happy my Wings don't have any of these players on the team.

 

[Prairie Habs]

Once again no one said this but you and others keep going on about how anyone who doesn't agree with you must support and condone rape. Rapists aren't those convicted in a court of public opinion. They are convicted in a court of law. Rape is a crime. The punishments for it have been set by legal precedent. What you and others with your wild opinions are telling me is you know better than the legal system and legal precedent what is rape and what the punishments should be.

In the post I quoted YOU were operating under the premise that if they did what they are accused of they shouldn't be punished for it because they were just 17-20 year old making a reasonable mistake. You can say "innocent until proven guilty" if you want, but you can't go on to say if they're guilty they still shouldn't be punished and not expect people to call you out on it.

 

[Heldig]

Amazing to think what I have learned here:

Court of public opinion is more just than the actual criminal or civil courts.

Evidence isn't important, all we need is what some "investigators" paid by a party with a huge vested and financial interest here believe is to be closer to the truth.

Persons who make bad decisions one night when they are 17-20 years old should be banned from making any kind of living. They really should be homeless and hungry it seems.

The people have the right to know dammit about private matters. Details are REQUIRED!

Did I miss anything?

I suggest passing this incident off as persons making "bad decisions one night" is missing a lot.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I suggest passing this incident off as persons making "bad decisions one night" is missing a lot.

Craig McTavish made a bad decision. There is a difference between a bad decision and a predatory/malicious decision IMO

 

[willy702]

In the post I quoted YOU were operating under the premise that if they did what they are accused of they shouldn't be punished for it because they were just 17-20 year old making a reasonable mistake. You can say "innocent until proven guilty" if you want, but you can't go on to say if they're guilty they still shouldn't be punished and not expect people to call you out on it.

I don't give a shit about morons calling me out on stuff I didn't say or don't believe. If these players were convicted of a crime then they would serve their time no? At some point a person has paid their debt to society. If the crazy mob posting here doesn't think it's enough that's their problem. Stop watching hockey if it bothers you so much. Me, I'll stick with the legal system we have in Canada and the US. And that includes right to privacy from speculation and getting skewered unfairly in the court of public opinion.

 

[Prairie Habs]

Amazing to think what I have learned here:

Court of public opinion is more just than the actual criminal or civil courts.

Evidence isn't important, all we need is what some "investigators" paid by a party with a huge vested and financial interest here believe is to be closer to the truth.

Persons who make bad decisions one night when they are 17-20 years old should be banned from making any kind of living. They really should be homeless and hungry it seems.

The people have the right to know dammit about private matters. Details are REQUIRED!

Did I miss anything?

I don't give a shit about morons calling me out on stuff I didn't say or don't believe. If these players were convicted of a crime then they would serve their time no? At some point a person has paid their debt to society. If the crazy mob posting here doesn't think it's enough that's their problem. Stop watching hockey if it bothers you so much. Me, I'll stick with the legal system we have in Canada and the US. And that includes right to privacy from speculation and getting skewered unfairly in the court of public opinion.

So are these persons who made a bad decision while young and shouldn't be punished or potential convicts who should be punished for their crimes? It'd tough to follow when you have no logical or ethical consistency.

Go on about the sacred right to privacy from speculation and not being skewered in the court of public opinion though, that's a fun new one. Not sure how it squares with the free speech thing.

 

[willy702]

So are these persons who made a bad decision while young and shouldn't be punished or potential convicts who should be punished for their crimes? It'd tough to follow when you have no logical or ethical consistency.

Go on about the sacred right to privacy from speculation and not being skewered in the court of public opinion though, that's a fun new one. Not sure how it squares with the free speech thing.

Go find the find where I or many others who have posted have said they shouldn't be punished for their crimes if they have been convicted of them.

You and all the other holier than thou posters have fun, no point in debating people who do nothing but jump to conclusions and claim others have beliefs in things they never stated.

 

[CanadienShark]

I hope the suspension just means indefinite until they decide a more fitting punishment.

 

[Troy McClure]

I don't give a shit about morons calling me out on stuff I didn't say or don't believe. If these players were convicted of a crime then they would serve their time no? At some point a person has paid their debt to society. If the crazy mob posting here doesn't think it's enough that's their problem. Stop watching hockey if it bothers you so much. Me, I'll stick with the legal system we have in Canada and the US. And that includes right to privacy from speculation and getting skewered unfairly in the court of public opinion.

The league is going to respond to what customers want. If more customers want to see rapists suspended, the league will act. If more customers are like you and instead want to see these guys face no suspension, then the league will go that route. Money talks.