Confirmed with Link: Tanner Pearson and 3rd (2025) Traded to Montreal for Casey DeSmith

CHfan1

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If no other moves, I’m guessing they gave up on Price going to LTIR before the season starts?

They still can get under the Cap before the season starts and put Price on LTIR afterwards.

They are $6.177 million over but that’s with 27 players. Sending 4 players to Laval/Europe and 2 paper transactions can get them under the Cap.
 

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So instead of getting rid of Armia, Gallagher, Dvorak and Anderson they bring a new one of these? To replace Hoffman?

How many useless vet forwards do you need on a rebuilding team?

It's not about Pearson, we don't need him, like we didn't needed Hoffman and Pitlick, like we didn't needed Petry or Desmith.

But we do needed that 2nd, 3rd and 4th round pick.
 

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Even more Amazing that some still don't get what asset management is all about
In a cap era with an an over abundance of useless veteran forwards I think there is a limitation on how many assets you manage if you lose a player like Ylonen to waivers to make room for this guy. I am not saying that will happen but adding 1.4 million to the cap is also not good asset management.
 

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It's not about Pearson, we don't need him, like we didn't needed Hoffman and Pitlick, like we didn't needed Petry or Desmith.

But we do needed that 2nd, 3rd and 4th round pick.

Exactly. Remember when Hughes said they're acquiring assets so they can be able to afford overpaying on someone in a trade to ensure they get him.

2025 seems like the year they plan to start being buyers. They have 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd, 2 x 3rd & 2 x 4th.
 

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Fair. Though the number of teams with both a need at back-up goalie & the cap space/swap to make it work is a constraint.

Even if an injury comes up, few teams would be that desperate for a backup to make the trade va just wait the Habs out & pick up DeSmith on waivers.

I prefer the certainty of the pick + the intangible benefits (both of finding a landing spot for the vet & making a win-win deal with a team that could be a future trade partner) than holding out for a longshot at getting a pick without any cap$ coming back.

Either way, kinda silly to equate recognizing the inherent value of the move as a carte blanche support for the GM

I question the timing of asset managment thats all, I prefer to wait out and see how many teams are in trouble. All good, not like what we think means anything at the end of the day anyways
 
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habs stocking up on tradeable picks. I think it’s clear Hughes is positioning himself for a bigger move. They have too many quality d prospects and a number of picks.
I think people fail to realize that draft picks aren’t solely to be used exclusively at the draft, a draft pick is an asset and often is currency when making trades.

Hughes is accumulating assets while renting out cap space during a time where cap space isn’t that important to this team.

Not sure why anyone would complain about this deal…but here we are.
 

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Amazing to read so many people excited at the acquisition of a 3rd round pick.
You can't read the room if you think that we're "excited."

It's just a quiet, tiny, solid trade that turns nothing - a goalie we would have lost on waivers in three weeks - into an asset.

0 chance that they are thinking that.
They damn well better be because they're going to be one of the worst teams in the league this year and we have functionally zero meaningful forward assets from the past two years. There's not a single player in the prospect pool who projects in the top six.
 

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Pearson feels like a case of a guy who would have to make his case back again in the AHL if he want to give another spark to his career.

Doubt we waive Ylonen for him
 

Milhouse40

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Exactly. Remember when Hughes said they're acquiring assets so they can be able to afford overpaying on someone in a trade to ensure they get him.

2025 seems like the year they plan to start being buyers. They have 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd, 2 x 3rd & 2 x 4th.

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Hughes got a FULL YEAR worth of draft in 2025 for some Cap Space, Hoffman and Pitlick, so far basically nothing. That's nuts.

And some people are so mad cause they can't figure out why he get Pearson, like they couldn't figure out why he got Petry and Desmith......asset management..
 

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In a cap era with an an over abundance of useless veteran forwards I think there is a limitation on how many assets you manage if you lose a player like Ylonen to waivers to make room for this guy. I am not saying that will happen but adding 1.4 million to the cap is also not good asset management.

I hear you... but Ylonen (I suspect) has minimal trade value for that exact reason.

Picks ultimately have more currency in trades than older prospects.

And Pearson, if he's still here to start the year and if he stays in the lineup, becomes a potential trade chip later on as well. He's not a valuable trade asset today, but his value has realistic potential to increase & if he beats out Ylonen, Pez and or Armia, then he's adding on ice value to the team.

Adding 1.4M in cap to our situation is a nothing burger. We aren't going to be spending to the cap to ice the best team possible, so every bit of cap space leveraged for pick assets is good asset management imo.

With Price's LTIR cap room once the season starts, still more than enough room to take on bad cap money in an in-season move to maximize trade return in-season as well.

I guess we just disagree on how to interpret our current situation.
 

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Hughes got a FULL YEAR worth of draft in 2025 for some Cap Space, Hoffman and Pitlick, so far basically nothing. That's nuts.

And some people are so mad cause they can't figure out why he get Pearson, like they couldn't figure out why he got Petry and Desmith......asset management..

Like it was a problem to waive and assign Pearson to the AHL
 

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His contract expires at the end of this season.

What are you expecting them to do otherwise with that cap space this year?
Didn't Hughes say he wanted to be under the cap without putting Price on LTIR? I am not an expert on Cap rules but I was under the impression adding to the cap at this time right before training camp makes little sense. For a 3rd?
 

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I think people fail to realize that draft picks aren’t solely to be used exclusively at the draft, a draft pick is an asset and often is currency when making trades.

Hughes is accumulating assets while renting out cap space during a time where cap space isn’t that important to this team.

Not sure why anyone would complain about this deal…but here we are.

Even if we keep the pick, it's still pretty good especially considering how we drafted in the 3rd/4th round in the last few years: Fowler, Engstrom, Trudeau, Farrell, Harris, etc.
 

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Monahan and/or Dvorak. But yes if there are no other retention slots to be used before the deadline, we should use it on Pearson.
Actually they would need to keep for the
Pearson feels like a case of a guy who would have to make his case back again in the AHL if he want to give another spark to his career.

Doubt we waive Ylonen for him
so with him in ahl , we taking on 500 k more salary for that third :)
 

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It's not about Pearson, we don't need him, like we didn't needed Hoffman and Pitlick, like we didn't needed Petry or Desmith.

But we do needed that 2nd, 3rd and 4th round pick.
To take another obscure Russian goalie no one has seen?

Maybe if they started hitting on 3rd rounders I’d be more excited.
 
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I hear you... but Ylonen (I suspect) has minimal trade value for that exact reason.

Picks ultimately have more currency in trades than older prospects.

Adding 1.4M in cap to our situation is a nothing burger. We aren't going to be spending to the cap to ice the best team possible, so every bit of cap space leveraged for pick assets is good asset management imo.

With Price's LTIR cap room once the season starts, still more than enough room to take on bad cap money in an in-season move to maximize trade return in-season as well.

I guess we just disagree on how to interpret our current situation.
I always try to understand KH's thinking and sometimes I forget I am playing checkers and he is playing 3-D chess.
 

Jaynki

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Amazing to read so many people excited at the acquisition of a 3rd round pick.

You know we can offer sheet an RFA next for a 1st, 2nd, 3rd (Aho price tag) and still draft in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd round in 2025.

All this for the price of... acquiring Monahan, hoffman and pitlick and 2.3M of cap space for two years.

Its not about the 3rd rd pick but having a proactive management that turns pure garbage into actually usable, universal and tradeable currency.
 

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Didn't Hughes say he wanted to be under the cap without putting Price on LTIR? I am not an expert on Cap rules but I was under the impression adding to the cap at this time right before training camp makes little sense. For a 3rd?
Who cares if he’s under the cap or not this season.

It doesn’t matter lol just more a question of accounting. It makes it easier if they can put Price on LTIR after but it doesn’t change the bigger picture.
 

CHfan1

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Didn't Hughes say he wanted to be under the cap without putting Price on LTIR? I am not an expert on Cap rules but I was under the impression adding to the cap at this time right before training camp makes little sense. For a 3rd?

They can still get under the Cap before the season starts before putting Price on LTIR.
 
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