Tampa defeats Toronto 4 games to 3

[T REX]

Day 2: leaf fans continue to cry about refs, I see no end in sight

Day 2? 200? 2000?

 

[T REX]

Except for Game 6 not all Leafs fans are pissed about the reffing. Game 7 call was the right call. That was interference. I called it even before the ref did; I just hoped the ref didn't see it so Leafs can get the goal.

oh well...

Winner Honest fan award 2022!

 

[Rschmitz]

Regardless, Foote is holding Kampf along the boards and that illegal play allowed Paul to freely exit his zone without any trouble at all, which allowed him to score.
I'm just pointing this out because Tavares's goal was called back and I don't understand how one is allowed over the other.

Both players were in an awkward position, I wouldn't call it a pin, but I wouldn't call it a hold either. All Kampf had to do there was actually try to break out of whatever it was and you'd have a rational complaint, but both Foote and Kampf were perfectly fine letting the play develop without them. Your blame should be on Kampf there

 

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

At first i was like this guy f***ing sucks, but i watched the whole clip, what a legend!

 

[Rschmitz]

Lol that was a tackle?

If this were American football, Holl made a hell of a play

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Yes, refs miss calls, every game, against all teams.
And yes, there were blatant calls that did decide the game. Sorry if you don't like hearing that.

Like Foote holding Kampf along the boards could have been called and then Paul's goal would not have happened.

Or like Matthews elbow on Cernak or his flying forearm into Sergachev's back right into the boards.

 

[JimmyApples]

It’s, strange. At a minimum. But I can’t say I envy the job of the refs in a Toronto series so from a human standpoint I do get it


You mean the one that should’ve been called in the first place, correct? Can opener with the stick between his feet?

The dive? Sure.

 

[HofT]

Both players were in an awkward position, I wouldn't call it a pin, but I wouldn't call it a hold either. All Kampf had to do there was actually try to break out of whatever it was and you'd have a rational complaint, but both Foote and Kampf were perfectly fine letting the play develop without them. Your blame should be on Kampf there

I'll give your props for giving an answer cause so far no one wanted to touch my example.

I do think Kampf should have made more of an attempt to get out. He possibly could have created attention for the refs to see.

 

[HofT]

Or like Matthews elbow on Cernak or his flying forearm into Sergachev's back right into the boards.

I'm not talking about random incidences that could/should be a penalty. I'm talking about a real direct impact on the game that affected the scoreboard.

 

[sampollock]

Or like Matthews elbow on Cernak or his flying forearm into Sergachev's back right into the boards.

Nostrils should have got the gate for that leaping hit

 

[authentic]

Our superstars won more games and are moving on, yours are golfing.

Read the comment I was responding to wise guy, it was false and I corrected it

 

[The90]

The dive? Sure.

What? Stutzle wasn’t playing?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

When you’re bottom 5 in powerplays every year for 5 straight years as a very good possession team, there’s something up. Especially since their peers in play style (Colorado, Carolina etc) are all near the top.

This season, Carolina was 20th in the nhl with 232 PP opportunities, Toronto was 21st with 231.

Conversely, Carolina had the most PK time in the NHL with 479 minutes. Toronto was 14th with 385 minutes.

Using Carolina as an example of Toronto getting a raw deal this season doesn’t hold much water.

 

[MikeyMike01]

When the leafs were down 3-1 to Boston and crawled back did you feel the same?

Yeah? Leafs had nothing to be embarrassed about in 2018. There’s been 4 chokes since then.

 

[sfvega]

What about the game 6 winner? Is that a pick? Why do I think you won’t watch.

Since that's called, then you also have to call Foote when he was holding Kampf along the boards that directly led Paul to scoring his goal (which now shouldn't count).

This is why people are so happy about your demise, when you guys should be sympathetic characters. You got outplayed in Game 7 by an undermanned team, when you got more PP time and did nothing with it. You put up 1 goal. Can't be accountable and just say your guys got outplayed again when it mattered. That the scoring dried up like it always does. Nobody here believes it's the refs fault. Only Leafs homers. You can't whine your way into round 2. If it were possible, you'd have been there a long time ago.

 

[Gaston Gingras]

 

[The90]

This season, Carolina was 20th in the nhl with 232 PP opportunities, Toronto was 21st with 231.

Conversely, Carolina had the most PK time in the NHL with 479 minutes. Toronto was 14th with 385 minutes.

Using Carolina as an example of Toronto getting a raw deal this season doesn’t hold much water.

Off the top of my head, I thought Carolina was in there too. That’s my bad. But you didn’t at all refute my point. It is absolutely odd that the possession teams get way more opportunities, aside from Toronto.

 

[Maplebeasts]

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Somebody on twitter who isn't intelligent enough to understand the difference in the situations here? Colour me shocked.

 

[authentic]

delete

 

[HofT]

This is why people are so happy about your demise, when you guys should be sympathetic characters. You got outplayed in Game 7 by an undermanned team, when you got more PP time and did nothing with it. You put up 1 goal. Can't be accountable and just say your guys got outplayed again when it mattered. That the scoring dried up like it always does. Nobody here believes it's the refs fault. Only Leafs homers. You can't whine your way into round 2. If it were possible, you'd have been there a long time ago.

Keep on ignoring what I posted.

 

[authentic]

You can't be serious with this.


Imagine how easy it would be to score goals if you could just tackle the defenders to create open ice. Goofy

No one tackled anyone there, that's what your team did and got away with it.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Off the top of my head, I thought Carolina was in there too. That’s my bad. But you didn’t at all refute my point. It is absolutely odd that the possession teams get way more opportunities, aside from Toronto.

Well, Carolina is similar possession team to Toronto and got similar PP opportunities to Toronto and got a lot more PK time than Toronto. So if your premise is that the league is biased against Toronto, would it not then stand to reason that the league is even more biased against Carolina?

Boston and Edmonton had better possession numbers (CF%) than Toronto but were just barely above Carolina and Toronto in PP chances (18th and 19th in the NHL). Rangers were 11th in CF%, yet 28th in PP opportunities.

Maybe there isn't the bias you think is there?

 

[Legion34]

This is why people are so happy about your demise, when you guys should be sympathetic characters. You got outplayed in Game 7 by an undermanned team, when you got more PP time and did nothing with it. You put up 1 goal. Can't be accountable and just say your guys got outplayed again when it mattered. That the scoring dried up like it always does. Nobody here believes it's the refs fault. Only Leafs homers. You can't whine your way into round 2. If it were possible, you'd have been there a long time ago.

So you didn’t watch did you? You can’t explain why point skating at gio from the redline and spinning him around isn’t interference?

 

[JimmyApples]

This is why people are so happy about your demise, when you guys should be sympathetic characters. You got outplayed in Game 7 by an undermanned team, when you got more PP time and did nothing with it. You put up 1 goal. Can't be accountable and just say your guys got outplayed again when it mattered. That the scoring dried up like it always does. Nobody here believes it's the refs fault. Only Leafs homers. You can't whine your way into round 2. If it were possible, you'd have been there a long time ago.

I hope the owners and management are as delusional as the fans are. Keep blaming the refs instead of taking accountability…we get to experience another collapse next year, too

 

[sfvega]

Keep on ignoring what I posted.

Oh you want all contact against the boards away from the play to be called in the playoffs? It isn't clear that you guys are micro-analyzing every play to try and take the blame off your guys? Toronto is supposed to be this mecca hockey city and you guys are flat out embarrassing yourselves. It's the refs fault, man. Your team wasn't outplayed. You're not being a little whiner that we're all having a good laugh at. Is that what you want to hear?