Sudbury Wolves 2023-24 Season Thread (Part 2)

[djscooter]

Mississauga announcer clown laughs about the call, then he notices Musty got embellished as well, and now it's a good call in both directions "Perfect call".

 

[cub]

passive PK system not good idea.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Cut down on the goals against or they’re going nowhere. How many times can Musty give the puck away!? I know they’re missing some bodies but I see a win one lose one pattern as a definite possibility. Finally yes, these announcers are the WORST I’ve ever heard and that’s saying something.

 

[Wolfman Jack]

No word on Walton?

WJ

 

[djscooter]

No word on Walton?

WJ

As is tradition, Wolves won't say anything of value. Anania, Delic, Walton could all be a day away, or their careers could be done. Flip a coin.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

I guess we are back to 40 ft passes thru the NZ = Turnover everytime

 

[howlman]

4 goals on 21 shots against Vondras after 2 periods. Concerning trends have emerged with him and his overall body of work thus far. Had high hopes for him to be "the guy", as did everyone. Not much time left for "assessing" things between now and the trade deadline. Don't believe you can trade Imports in their first year (could be wrong on that rule or if it's been changed). But it's heading towards the Wolves needing to upgrade the goalie position as a number one priority. Whether that be another guy brought in to tandem with Vondras (I like Chucky), or releasing Vondras and bringing in another guy to tandem with Chucky, which then opens up another Import spot to bring in another Import. This decision will really test Papineau. Everyone should remember when Mike Foligno made the tough decision to move on from OA Beech (Beech wasn't good enough), and Foligno went out and acquired Dahm to upgrade the goalie position. Best decision/trade Foligno ever made.

 

[djscooter]

4 goals on 21 shots against Vondras after 2 periods. Concerning trends have emerged with him and his overall body of work thus far. Had high hopes for him to be "the guy", as did everyone. Not much time left for "assessing" things between now and the trade deadline. Don't believe you can trade Imports in their first year (could be wrong on that rule or if it's been changed). But it's heading towards the Wolves needing to upgrade the goalie position as a number one priority. Whether that be another guy brought in to tandem with Vondras (I like Chucky), or releasing Vondras and bringing in another guy to tandem with Chucky, which then opens up another Import spot to bring in another Import. This decision will really test Papineau. Everyone should remember when Mike Foligno made the tough decision to move on from OA Beech (Beech wasn't good enough), and Foligno went out and acquired Dahm to upgrade the goalie position. Best decision/trade Foligno ever made.

I think moving on from Vondras is the play. You can add another good import either up front on the blueline for much cheaper then an equivalent non-import.

Atleast it seems like DeAngelis has solevd our PP woes. I wonder if he can play in net as well.

 

[WolvesFanInNorthBay]

NB - 0/7 PP
next two games combined 0/8 PP

Last three games including today's 10/19 PP.

At least there's improvement somewhere. Sucks that the goaltending took a dive.

5 minute major to Musty isn't a good sign either.

 

[djscooter]

Can this terrible team have discipline, just once?
Need a new coaching staff or this keeps happening over and over and over. I know it's 4:21pm, past Ken's bedtime on a Sunday, but surely one of the other coaches can do something?

Another slewfoot, you cannot convince me that the Wolves are not being coached do this. It's happening at least once per month.

 

[cub]

Slewfoot Kings

 

[djscooter]

Between not backchecking in 3 on 3, and blowing the empty net, Goyette is certainly clutch. Hopefully he can do better in the shootout.

 

[cub]

wow how do you miss that

 

[djscooter]

wow how do you miss that

Goyette puts him in position for more prime scoring chances than anyone on the wolves. He also somehow misses more empty nets then anyone else on the wolves.

 

[djscooter]

McCallum in the shootout? What a dumb choice.


Wolves played a decent game, but goaltending was the difference, our 19 year old NHL drafted goalie just was not as good as a 16 year old rookie.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

McCallum in the shootout? What a dumb choice.


Wolves played a decent game, but goaltending was the difference, our 19 year old NHL drafted goalie just was not as good as a 16 year old rookie.

Goaltending could have been better but selfish and undisciplined play lost us the game.

 

[Lycanthrope]

K

Can this terrible team have discipline, just once?
Need a new coaching staff or this keeps happening over and over and over. I know it's 4:21pm, past Ken's bedtime on a Sunday, but surely one of the other coaches can do something?

Another slewfoot, you cannot convince me that the Wolves are not being coached do this. It's happening at least once per month.

I think it’s more likely there are not any consequences for that kind of stupidity. San Jose must be really impressed. I will say Vondras got it together and was solid in the third and overtime with one incredible save. Goyette missing another empty net. I think some of you guys might want to rethink the certainty of their not returning.

 

[djscooter]

K

I think it’s more likely there are not any consequences for that kind of stupidity. San Jose must be really impressed. I will say Vondras got it together and was solid in the third and overtime with one incredible save. Goyette missing another empty net. I think some of you guys might want to rethink the certainty of their not returning.

Goyette is 100% not going to be back, he can be assigned to the AHL. Musty on the other hand, will nearly certainly be back, despite leading the OHL in points per game currently. Even if he was good enough, San Jose is likely still in the rebuild phase where they want to actively be bad for better draft picks.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Goyette is 100% not going to be back, he can be assigned to the AHL. Musty on the other hand, will nearly certainly be back, despite leading the OHL in points per game currently. Even if he was good enough, San Jose is likely still in the rebuild phase where they want to actively be bad for better draft picks.

Musty is far from a lock to play pro hockey in the show period. The guy is a giveaway machine and does not have control over himself on the ice. Unless some pro coaching, and accountability can turn that around because he certainly has the talent.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

Goyette is 100% not going to be back, he can be assigned to the AHL. Musty on the other hand, will nearly certainly be back, despite leading the OHL in points per game currently. Even if he was good enough, San Jose is likely still in the rebuild phase where they want to actively be bad for better draft picks.

I respectfully disagree about #88. Who would advance a player to the next level who needs to learn to play defensive hockey. Is he eligible for AHL, yes. But can he? Maybe the right coaches he can learn at AHL level but with the surplus of talent trying to claw their way to the show not the right place to learn.

 

[WeThe North]

Goyette has 86 goals in 154 games. This year he seems to struggle finding the back of the net but he’s never selfish and you guys are looking at the wrong player to blame for our loss. Shit happens. Closest one is Musty with 51 and Delic 48. I’m sure he’d like to get this one back lol

Musty was given the keys to the city and he does what he wants on the ice. If he was coached he’d be a complete superstar. I can only imagine how he would look playing in London. Yikes

 

[djscooter]

Musty is far from a lock to play pro hockey in the show period. The guy is a giveaway machine and does not have control over himself on the ice. Unless some pro coaching, and accountability can turn that around because he certainly has the talent.

I'm not sure if you disagree with me? But I said he'll nearly certainly be back. I definitely agree the discipline is a huge problem. I do think his giveaway problems are overstated. Players who hold the puck end up with a lot more giveaways then those who don't. If you look at giveaway leaders in the NHL, they're nearly all elite puck carriers. Not saying Musty is an elite puck carrier by any stretch, but he likely has the puck on his stick as much as any other player on the Wolves. Ultimately, I do think Musty needs coaching ti become a better player. He really showed another level under Derek MacKenzie last year.

I respectfully disagree about #88. Who would advance a player to the next level who needs to learn to play defensive hockey. Is he eligible for AHL, yes. But can he? Maybe the right coaches he can learn at AHL level but with the surplus of talent trying to claw their way to the show not the right place to learn.

I don't disagree, he still has lots to learn in the OHL, but historically, It's nearly impossible to find a 2nd round pick who has not advanced to the AHL at 20. I am not saying that it is the right decision, just that it is the likely one.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Slewfoot Kings

First at something.

 

[WeThe North]

I respectfully disagree about #88. Who would advance a player to the next level who needs to learn to play defensive hockey. Is he eligible for AHL, yes. But can he? Maybe the right coaches he can learn at AHL level but with the surplus of talent trying to claw their way to the show not the right place to learn.

He did play in the AHL already even playing in playoffs. Every time we lose you guys bash on Goyette loll. He’s not to blame for the loss nor is he responsible for any goals today.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

I'm not sure if you disagree with me? But I said he'll nearly certainly be back. I definitely agree the discipline is a huge problem. I do think his giveaway problems are overstated. Players who hold the puck end up with a lot more giveaways then those who don't. If you look at giveaway leaders in the NHL, they're nearly all elite puck carriers. Not saying Musty is an elite puck carrier by any stretch, but he likely has the puck on his stick as much as any other player on the Wolves. Ultimately, I do think Musty needs coaching ti become a better player. He really showed another level under Derek MacKenzie last year.

I don't disagree, he still has lots to learn in the OHL, but historically, It's nearly impossible to find a 2nd round pick who has not advanced to the AHL at 20. I am not saying that it is the right decision, just that it is the likely one.