Blue Jays Discussion: Steve Pearce: comeback machine
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The best part is that the international pool money isn't even a big loss for the Orioles because they intentionally avoid spending in Latin America. They constantly use their international slots to dump bad contracts and acquire low-ceiling prospects and org guys at higher levels instead of signing 16- and 17-year-olds and trying to develop them. Then whatever slots they aren't able to trade away generally go unused.
There's a reason their farm system is always so poorly rated. Their insistance on operating like it's 1970 is going to leave them miles behind everyone else.
Neil Hamburger
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Business 101: when your product sucks, increase prices!
I suppose they'll need to make up for the likely massive decrease in ticket sales somehow.
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Most tickets were sold in the offseason. If they think they can field the same crap team next year and same amount of fans will show up, they are sadly mistaken.
Eyedea
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Negative WPA in 2015, 2016, and 2017.
Reyes' contract would have been done this year. Instead the Jays have three more years of Tulo.
Hindsight is 20/20 (regarding the deal), but Tulo hasn't done close to enough to be referred to as a big reason for getting into the playoffs.
Just checked Cecil's numbers, not too bad. His strikeouts have dropped quite a bit. That contract will likely get worse as the years go on.
Eyedea
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Maybe defensively, certainly not offensively, and also one of the worst baserunners.
I mean in WAR, which accounts for offense, defense and baserunning, he was 10'th in 2016, and in the 2'nd half of 2015 "I couldn't find a way to make it from the day of the Tulo trade" he was tied for 11'th. He wasn't a top 5 shortstop the last two years but he was a top 10 shortstop.
Anyone know what TJ Zeuch is doing. Has been injured since late May and I can't find out anything regarding his injury.
its great to see my garbage excel tables get play all over the internet
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But yeah its pretty ridiculous. This is a bigger increase than either of the last two years, and considering how the team is doing, they're just asking to get absolutely decimated in renewals. My favourite part is the big selling point for early renewal this year is 'seat relocation' which basically indicates that a whole ton of people will be giving up their seasons.
The Jays are the fourth most affordable summer sports ticket in the city. Unless we're saying its because every single game hits the Stubhub floor which, while hilarious, won't happen when there aren't 15K STH every game desperate to dump seats.
Say whatever about the empty seats at the Argos games, the irrelevance of third tier English League Rugby or MLS (although to be clear, the TFC re-sale market is basically the August 2015 Jays market right now), but yeah. There's a lot of other options in the city.
big days for the #brand
But yeah its pretty ridiculous. This is a bigger increase than either of the last two years, and considering how the team is doing, they're just asking to get absolutely decimated in renewals. My favourite part is the big selling point for early renewal this year is 'seat relocation' which basically indicates that a whole ton of people will be giving up their seasons.
The Jays are the fourth most affordable summer sports ticket in the city. Unless we're saying its because every single game hits the Stubhub floor which, while hilarious, won't happen when there aren't 15K STH every game desperate to dump seats.
Say whatever about the empty seats at the Argos games, the irrelevance of third tier English League Rugby or MLS (although to be clear, the TFC re-sale market is basically the August 2015 Jays market right now), but yeah. There's a lot of other options in the city.
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Eyedea
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Sure, if we take everything into account then he's 11th in fWAR (Simmons is not qualified but higher) in 2016. I guess we can celebrate him formerly being the 11th best shortstop and barely providing surplus value for the season (lord knows we can't expect that any longer).
Edo
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https://blogs-images.forbes.com/mik...3/MLB_Average_Ticket_Prices_2017_Hi-Res-2.jpg
Nothing wrong with the ticket increase. Considering the attendance, how much the team spends, and the recent performance. It sucks, but it falls in line with the rest of the MLB.
e: First thing first, that chart is referring to prices of tickets on the secondary market, not from the team itself. If anything its even more of a reason that the ticket price hike is moronic. Anyways, original post below.
What do the prices of tickets in San Diego have to do with the prices in Toronto?
Prices should be set at what the market can bear, which can best be shown on the secondary market. It is very clear that this season there is severe overpricing, considering that every game is a firesale on every single ticketing website. Which is "great" for the team right now, but terrible in terms of convincing people to renew. No one can attend all 81 games - virtually all season ticket holders attempt to recoup some of their purchase back via re-selling, and instead everyone is taking heavy losses.
The attendance this year is based off of sales made last September and October. There was basically a floor of 2.6 million ticket sales before a pitch was even thrown this season. That will not exist next year.
This is, at least in my opinion, a dramatic misread of the ticket market by an executive team that basically showed up in town and has seen nothing but sellouts and successful ticket campaigns, even with the elimination of virtually all season ticket perks. It will not end well.
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Eyedea
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