DRL
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Trade Staz for a late 2nd rd pick? Roy doesn't even care about seconds the way he hands them out, why give up at the the time our longest serving player for a late second.
#StastnyWatch - Summer of 2014 - Part III : Time to Synchronize Synergies!!!!!!!!!!!
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Trade Staz for a late 2nd rd pick? Roy doesn't even care about seconds the way he hands them out, why give up at the the time our longest serving player for a late second.
Can we lock this thread? It makes me sad
we'll keep it open for a few more days . People still have alot of things to say about what happend with Stastny . As long as it stays a hot topic , we'll keep it open.
The Kingslayer
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You mean this article:
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/hock...cle_a2a638d3-1242-5229-903b-f14b987c8ecc.html
I find it interesting that he jumped off the ship. Is he seeing something that we didn't?
I thought our team outscoring the Bloos by good portion?
I hope we get the Cup before the Blues.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/hock...cle_a2a638d3-1242-5229-903b-f14b987c8ecc.html
I find it interesting that he jumped off the ship. Is he seeing something that we didn't?
I thought our team outscoring the Bloos by good portion?
I hope we get the Cup before the Blues.
Avs71
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"A little bit more for me" is reference to not being behind Duchene and MacKinnon. There is a direct quote of that kicking around.
As for the dangerous weapons, here is how the two teams top-6 stack up. I did this comparison a month ago roughly.
Now Iginla replaces Parenteau, and Stastny goes on the Blues list, but the Avs are just as dangerous up front, if not more. Berglund should have been on there instead of Sobotka, but I thought he was being traded at the time I guess. I don't think saying the Blues have dangerous weapons is a slight to the Avs, or a surprise to anyone. They have a great team, and some great wingers for Stastny.
As for the dangerous weapons, here is how the two teams top-6 stack up. I did this comparison a month ago roughly.
Now Iginla replaces Parenteau, and Stastny goes on the Blues list, but the Avs are just as dangerous up front, if not more. Berglund should have been on there instead of Sobotka, but I thought he was being traded at the time I guess. I don't think saying the Blues have dangerous weapons is a slight to the Avs, or a surprise to anyone. They have a great team, and some great wingers for Stastny.
Bubba Thudd
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As a Blues fan, I am really excited to have Paul in the BlueNote. Now, this situation has reminded me of how the Blues handled Brett Hull. So, I feel for the Av's fans. Good gracious, the Western Conference is just plain scary.
Bender
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Absolutely no reason to 'feel' for us...I mean it's not like we signed Kyle Quincey to a 2yr - $8.5M contract.
Besides, if the Blues had Duchene and MacKinnon in the fold, would you want them to sign Stastny for $7M per year??
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I'm pretty sure he's just referring to the money. I heard him say that. He kept saying "as a hockey player" after everything. He was trying not to make it sound like it was purely about the money. Not that anyone should blame him. If he took a paycut to make $7M in his home town, it's unreasonable to expect him to sign for less than $6M with the Avs.
I think he liked playing with Oshie a good deal too. I always wanted a Landeskog - Stastny - Oshie line before MacKinnon was drafted.
Just a shame the Avs could not have passed on 1 year of a mediocre Stuart and kept Stastny while still adding Iginla.
But the "structure" needs to be maintained.
Was just trying to relate to the fans that hate to see Paul go. Any yes, Duchene and MacKinnon are great players, so I see your point of view as well.
hold on , let me try again : $ta$tny <--- is it better that way ?
You can , but i wont make any comment in it , that's for sure
Ceremony
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Let the thread flame out and fall down the page generating no post production. It can be fitting.
hold on , let me try again : $ta$tny <--- is it better that way ?
You can , but i wont make any comment in it , that's for sure
Yeah, I don't really have any problems with Stastny moving on in general, but moving on to the freaking Blues?
tigervixxxen
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Having a little time to reflect on this, I can understand how and why it all went down. My question now is where was all that optimism BS coming from? I can believe it was very amicable and both sides were in contact. But if Sakic knew he was getting a good offer and they were not even considering approaching it then why the constant harping on it. Wasn't even their statements to the media for spin, was also insiders saying "Colorado is his strongest option". Why not just say Colorado doesn't give him the best opportunity but he'd go back of he doesn't find any lucrative offers? Would have saved us all a month of stress.
I think everyone including Stastny believed the Avs would come up above 6m to keep him. It just made too much sense to keep him at under 6.5m, especially with the ROR situation still undecided. Worst case scenario is that when MacK supplanted Stastny in the lineup the parties come together to move him somewhere where he'd get a better chance to play that 2C role (which are always available).
Just poor personell management which so far looks to be a weakness with the current decision makers, especially when it comes to bigger name and contract players.
The Shermanator
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I think Sakic and Roy gambled and lost. They thought, confidently I'm sure, that they could sell Staz like they did Duchene, Landy, and Varly. Since he had been here before the rebuild started, and was apart the bad times and developed friendships and such, I'm sure they thought he really wouldn't leave.
I want to know where the hometown discount BS started.
CantTouchThis
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I sincerely think he meant it. He would have taken something around .5M less to stay in COL, I'm sure of it. But he wasn't offered that.
Lets not kid ourselves, in interviews, he speaks of his role on the team, his town growing up, etc but the main thing that drove him out was the $. He just can't say it in interviews.
Paul will be 32 when his deal expires. I believe in the long run, he will make more money this way, then to have signed for 7 years at 6M and be forced in UFA at 35. At 32, he'll be able to command a good chunk of change imo.
Financially, good decision on his part. It is, after all, a job - a business. Would you keep working for AT&T if Verizon offered you more cash?
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
They started wooing Iginla a week ago. Now of course they needed a backup plan ready but it just feels to me like Iginla was plan A and not plan B. Now could it be spin to mitigate not getting Stastny back? Maybe. But I think more likely they made it sound like they were trying harder to bring back a fan favorite more than they actually were. Going all the way back to the start of the year, I listened to Roy on the radio every week and he was always hedging on the Stastny questions.
If iggy was plan A, props to them. Cheaper, more production, more grit, more everything.
Unfortunately that holds true with age. If Iggy produces at his current rate for at least two more years I'll be ok with the staz trade. They way he is about fitness I don't anticipate he'll decline to terribly fast though.
And @ whoever said why did they sing the happy song?
"There is absolutely no ****ing chance we resign him but we don't want to ditch him for a pick going into the playoffs. Maybe if we get real lucky we can win a cup and keep him here, but don't hold your breath."
That I would have appreciated hearing but people would of been spitting nails here either way if they legit said something like that, to the extent of no way we're going to be able to resign him, but we want him for the run anyway.
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Pretty sure it was done as a PR move and also to put a little pressure on Staz to sign at their price, but his agent knew the Avs were offering nowhere near what other teams would.
All the nice stuff said after was just out of respect to a long time Av. Nice of Joe to handle it that way though. He knows the importance of such gestures.
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