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Series Talk: Stanley Cup Playoffs 2024
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Yes. It was the coaches, not the players.
henchman21
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The Avs' complete inability to chip and chase, then play below the goal line was their undoing. Just look at how Edmonton is playing Dallas, it isn't difficult or require a ton of talent... it takes a different mindset and strategy.
IMO it was both. Players are the guys on the ice, and many of them have chipped and chased in their hockey careers. Too many of them tried to play hero or fit impossible passes.
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Out of despair because the gameplan wasn't working.
If Bednar runs into DeBoer in the playoffs again next year we'll get the same result.
henchman21
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I don't think it is despair... more that they think they are talented enough to make plays through any window. The Avs mentality as a team (coaches and players) that if they execute, nobody can beat them. You break up that execution and they start looking pretty average.
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We would still come out a goal short because we were short handed. No Val, no Landy. Again, without those 2 we aren’t winning shit unless they come back or we replace them
expatriatedtexan
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Which is the big reason I wouldn't mind a little heat being applied to Bednar's chair this season. If he's not getting new ACs, he really needs to come up with something more than skate harder than the other team.
The PK, absolutely needs to be move aggressive and mobile. The PP...f*** can we try doing the drop pass to JMFJ...at least that would be surprising. Also, I feel like a lot of the time we're getting pinned in the defensive zone is on the forwards chomping at the bits and exiting too quickly and not as a unit. They get separated from the D and the D get trapped. They mostly adjust and get back on track after a game or two, but I feel like this has been an ongoing issue for a couple of seasons now.
Alex Jones
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Freaky Styley
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We brag about our pro scouts but those guys got a top pairing in Forsling and Montour for next to nothing. Unheard of.
The Kingslayer
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Tanev would not have helped us because on our team he would have been hurt by game 3 of the 1st round.
The Kingslayer
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He would have gotten hurt answering the call from CMac after the trade lol lets be real here.
Forsling, Mikkola, Montour, Loustarinen, Verhaeghe, Bennett were all targetted by their pro scouts. Not counting players like Reinhart, OEL, Rodrigues who were already a known quantity.
But their whole team is essentially made of cast-offs or free agents.
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Add Verhaeghe, Bennett and Reinhart for scraps too.
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henchman21
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Gotta give Zito credit here too. He was a former agent then scout then assistant GM. He’s a huge part of grabbing these guys. He was also a big part of the uptick that Columbus had for years. Such a good gm.
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I’m beginning to think offer sheeting Sakic was really a crisis
expatriatedtexan
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It'd be a strange thing to do, but can you imagine an alternate universe where the Avs don't match and all the ways that could have unfolded over the years?
I used to make complete what if seasons on NHL 2K and the late 90s early 00s EA versions. Stuff like, what if the AVs had kept Sundin. What if Lindros wasn't a punk bitch and signed with Quebec? What if Tanguay could stay on-sides?
Well that last one is a bit of a stretch, but it can be fun at times to think on these things...especially now because well, the Avs hands are largely tied and we can't really speculate on anything of real substance, so reimagining the past is a cool way to pass the time.
Coaches and players. And the systems and style of game they are coached to play.
