Player Discussion: official trade deadline 2025 // discussion thread

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Given the state of the market, I doubt anyone blows them away with a Provorov offer. As far as forward help, Charlie Coyle is someone I would look at, Brock Nelson as well.
What do you mean by the "state of the market". Right now it's a sellers market which would mean higher prices. I actually think Chicago did pretty well on the Jones deal, trading away a guy who publicly asked out, has not been playing to the value of his long term contract and gave his team only two destinations he would accept a trade to (not that Florida necessarily knew this).

I would think the offers on Provy would be good. Whether it is good enough to convince GMDW to make a move is a completely different story.
 
What do you mean by the "state of the market". Right now it's a sellers market which would mean higher prices. I actually think Chicago did pretty well on the Jones deal, trading away a guy who publicly asked out, has not been playing to the value of his long term contract and gave his team only two destinations he would accept a trade to (not that Florida necessarily knew this).

I would think the offers on Provy would be good. Whether it is good enough to convince GMDW to make a move is a completely different story.
I should have said state of the market/team. It is a sellers market, but we are operating as buyers, so the price probably goes up more because GMDW doesn't want to shake things up too much. I don't think he gets moved unless its a hockey trade to a team blowing it up or for someone who might need a change of scenery, like an Elias Pettersson (just the name I thought of, not saying for him.)
 
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this specifies that they're not looking at rentals, but guys who have a few years left. here's a hastily-compiled list of some of those options. guys who I find particularly interesting are in bold.
  • signed through 25-26
    • oliver bjorkstrand
    • alex tuch
    • conor garland
    • david perron
    • matias maccelli
    • scott laughton
    • eeli tolvanen
    • jason dickinson
    • jordan eberle
    • kevin hayes
    • nick foligno
    • mathieu joseph
    • trevor zegras
    • viktor arvidsson
    • evander kane
    • peyton krebs
  • signed through 26-27
    • chris kreider
    • jared mccann
    • casey mittelstadt
    • ryan o'reilly
    • teuvo teravainen
    • ryan strome
    • lawson crouse
    • andre burakovsky
    • pavel zacha
    • alex newhook
    • tommy novak
  • signed through 27-28
    • rikard rakell
    • nils hoglander (3-year extension hasn't kicked in yet)
    • trevor moore
    • brayden schenn
  • signed beyond that
    • travis konecny
    • jordan kyrou
    • troy terry
    • pavel buchnevich
    • dylan cozens
    • owen tippett
    • mika zibanejad
 
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this specifies that they're not looking at rentals, but guys who have a few years left. here's a hastily-compiled list of some of those options. guys who I find particularly interesting are in bold.
  • signed through 25-26
    • oliver bjorkstrand
    • alex tuch
    • conor garland
    • david perron
    • matias maccelli
    • scott laughton
    • eeli tolvanen
    • jason dickinson
    • jordan eberle
    • kevin hayes
    • nick foligno
    • mathieu joseph
    • trevor zegras
    • viktor arvidsson
    • evander kane
    • peyton krebs
  • signed through 26-27
    • chris kreider
    • jared mccann
    • casey mittelstadt
    • ryan o'reilly
    • teuvo teravainen
    • ryan strome
    • lawson crouse
    • andre burakovsky
    • pavel zacha
    • alex newhook
    • tommy novak
  • signed through 27-28
    • rikard rakell
    • nils hoglander (3-year extension hasn't kicked in yet)
    • trevor moore
    • brayden schenn
  • signed beyond that
    • travis konecny
    • jordan kyrou
    • troy terry
    • pavel buchnevich
    • dylan cozens
    • owen tippett
    • mika zibanejad
There are probably a host of upcoming RFAs with team control that would be of interest as well. More difficult to get in-season, of course, but they too would qualify as long term acquisitions. I think there are many options, but really don't think we see any movement like that until the off season. With Chinakhov coming back and the expectation of Sillinger and Monahan later this month, I don't know that much really happens. Whatever it is, we know it will provide flexibility, leadership and create more challenge to get into the lineup. That's a great thing
 
if they get <2 points on this florida swing, I bet they do end up trading provorov.

if they manage to get 3+ points, I bet waddell takes a big swing.
 
if they get <2 points on this florida swing, I bet they do end up trading provorov.

if they manage to get 3+ points, I bet waddell takes a big swing.
I understand the logic, but I don't see a swing of 0-4 points before Friday changing the view of what to spend/trade. If they get 0 points, CBJ will likely still be in WC2 or tied for WC2. If they get 4 points, CBJ will have either kept or slightly extended a 4+ point gap to keep WC1, but with 20+ games still left, that is nothing given the number of teams in the race. In other words, they are in the thick of the race no matter what happens in Tampa or Miami. Both games are against non-divisional opponents; unless TBL craters, neither game is a classic "4 pt game." I think GMDW has already made his decision (imo - not much movement having missed on Nyquist), unless something crazy good gets proposed by another team - and I don't see that happening given the market, there just are not enough sellers.
 
Porty just quickly posted and deleted this....

*Please be Bjork*

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I could see a cheap bottom 6 deal made but I dont think he's generally the big splash guy in season. These last couple games have to show him that we need atleast 1 more guy to push a bunch of the bottom 6ers down 1 spot. That said, if Chinakhov is actually considered close I wouldn't be shocked if he's that guy. He would be in a weird spot though. Maybe Chinakhov-Danforth-Olivier with ZAR-Kuraly-Pyhttia being the 4th line. Won't get much help offensively but it would be a line we could trust
Everything depends on the return of the injured. When Chinakhov and Monahan return, there could be a line of Chinakhov - Monahan - Johnson, with a third line of Sillinger - Jenner - Olivier.
 
If we dont trade for Borky I wouldn't trade at all. I feel like this lineup is deep on all 4 lines. Maybe trade for a rotational guy in case of injuries. But the names out there, where would you put them? I feel like JVR has earned a spot, and having a vet for the playoffs is important. He's a big locker room guy as well.
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I mean on the back end We have a lot of depth. Unless we get a solid top 4 dman I don't really want to break up what we have going. We have played some good games vs some really good teams!
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If we dont trade for Borky I wouldn't trade at all. I feel like this lineup is deep on all 4 lines. Maybe trade for a rotational guy in case of injuries. But the names out there, where would you put them? I feel like JVR has earned a spot, and having a vet for the playoffs is important. He's a big locker room guy as well.
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I mean on the back end We have a lot of depth. Unless we get a solid top 4 dman I don't really want to break up what we have going. We have played some good games vs some really good teams!
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Its hard to trust Chinny but if he can play and stay healthy then I don't think we need to add the top 9 forward I was advocating for.

When healthy we're pretty full as it is.

I like these lines and think it works to keep everyone who's rolling together (aside from Fantilli and the #1 line).
 
Are we absolutely sure that Monahan is going to be able to play center after his wrist injury? I remember Porty suggesting that while he might be able to come back, face-off will be difficult
 
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There may be big moves across the league on Friday, but the Blue Jackets are expected to be only moderate players. As he’s been saying for weeks, Waddell is hoping to add a second- or third-line forward, but he’s not going to trade a first-round pick or a top prospect to do it.

Waddell’s pursuit of a forward has actually been dialed back from the aggressiveness he displayed before the 4 Nations Face-Off break, due mostly to the fact that leading goal-scorer Kirill Marchenko — who suffered a broken jaw just before the break — has been able to return sooner than expected.

The Blue Jackets had extensive talks with the Nashville Predators regarding winger Gustav Nyquist, but couldn’t swing a deal. He was traded to the Minnesota Wild on Saturday for a 2026 second-round pick.

The greater intrigue for the Blue Jackets between now and Friday may be how they handle their own pending unrestricted free agents.

As reported by The Athletic on Monday, the Blue Jackets are close to signing tough winger Mathieu Olivier to a long-term contract extension. Olivier, a pending unrestricted free agent, has emerged as perhaps the NHL’s top fighter, as well as a leader and a secondary scorer (12 goals) for Columbus this season.

But talks with veteran defenseman Ivan Provorov, also a UFA this summer, have not come close to a deal, Waddell said.

For Provorov, 29, this is his first crack at unrestricted free agency, maybe his best chance to land a seven- or eight-year contract that could set him up for the rest of his career. The Blue Jackets like having Provorov in their lineup, Waddell said, but they aren’t prepared to commit to that length of term.
Waddell and Provorov’s agent, Mark Gandler, are expected to talk again on Tuesday.

“We have done a lot of deals together, and we have a really good relationship,” Waddell said. “We just have a difference of opinion about what the market’s going to be like this summer.

“I understand that the player has played his whole career to get to this point, and there aren’t going to be a lot of veteran defensemen on the market this summer. I also know the salary cap is going up. The agent is doing his job, and I understand it. I have no grudges. We’ll continue to talk.”

Should Provorov remain unsigned by Friday, it’s still possible — likely, even — that Waddell will decide to hold onto him for the stretch drive, even with the risk that he signs elsewhere this summer with no compensation to the Blue Jackets.

The Jackets have played their way, against all expectations, into a playoff race for the first time in five seasons. Heading into play on Tuesday, the Jackets hold the first wild-card spot in the Eastern Conference, trailing New Jersey by only four points for third in the Metropolitan Division.

There’s an emotional pull here, too, Waddell acknowledged.

The Blue Jackets have become one of the best stories in the NHL, perhaps in all of sports, in part because of the way they came together to honor the life and legacy of Johnny Gaudreau, who was killed in a tragic accident shortly before training camp.

There’s also a budding love affair between the Blue Jackets’ fans and this club, as seen by the recent sellouts in Nationwide Arena and the massive turnout — nearly 95,000 — for Saturday’s outdoor game, the second-largest attendance in NHL history.

The last thing Waddell wants to do is trade veteran players. This group of players deserves a chance to stay together for a possible playoff run, Waddell said, and the fans deserves it, too.
“There are decisions that will have to be made (when other teams make trade offers this week), but this team has been through a lot this year,” Waddell told The Athletic. “This is an abnormal year for me at the deadline.

“To pull one of your top defensemen (Provorov) out of the lineup at this time of year, without a replacement, that would not be a decision that’s welcomed by anybody. If we were out of it, like some people thought we were going to be, it’d be a different story.

“I’m looking at it from every possible way, and I have great support from ownership, so we’ll see how the next couple of days go.”

That approach extends beyond Provorov, too. The Blue Jackets have several other pending UFAs: forwards Sean Kuraly, James van Riemsdyk and Danforth, and defensemen Dante Fabbro and Jack Johnson.

“Just to send guys away for mid-round picks doesn’t make a lot of sense,” Waddell said. “These guys have done it all year for us in a tough situation, so sticking with this group … I have no problem with that.”
There’s something else at play here, too.

The Blue Jackets have been buoyed this year by the dramatic growth from it clutch of young, talented forwards such as Adam Fantilli, Kent Johnson, Kirill Marchenko, Dmitry Voronkov and Cole Sillinger.

Waddell does not want to significantly reshuffle the forward corps because he thinks it’s important for those young players, who have already learned so much this season, to get a taste of how difficult the playoffs are, if the Blue Jackets are fortunate enough to make them.

“Right now, every game matters so much that they’re almost like playoff games,” Waddell said. “It’s so tight. And it’s going to be tight. We have a tough trip with four in a row. This (tight race) is going to go through March and into April. We just hope we can stay in the mix.”

The Blue Jackets got good news on the injury front on Monday when winger Yegor Chinakhov, who has been out since late November, took part in a full practice and took line rushes with the second line, next to center Boone Jenner and right winger Johnson.

It marked the first time Chinakhov, saddled with a nagging lower-back injury, has made it through a full practice. If he awakens today without pain, he’ll be activated from injured reserve and go into the lineup against the Lightning, Waddell said.

As for the other injured players, it’s going to be a while.

Sillinger suffered a shoulder injury last Thursday in the Blue Jackets’ 5-2 win in Detroit. He’s likely to miss most of March, Waddell said.

“We know he doesn’t need surgery. We’v had that confirmed,” Waddell said. “It’s just a matter of rehabbing the shoulder, which is very sore and swollen. It’s gonna be a few weeks.”

Center Sean Monahan (wrist surgery) and defenseman Erik Gudbranson (shoulder surgery) have both been skating for weeks, but are still healing. Waddell said Monahan could be back in late March, but Gudbranson has been set for a return sometime in April since he had surgery.


 

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