Player Discussion: official trade deadline 2025 // discussion thread

[stevo61]

You might be right, but he was apparently looking for some forward help a couple weeks ago

Blue Jackets Sunday Gathering: GM Don Waddell shopping for a top-six forward

Waddell was aggressive last week in his search for a top-six scoring forward. "We had some irons in the fire," he said. "But no action yet."

www.nytimes.com

I could see a cheap bottom 6 deal made but I dont think he's generally the big splash guy in season. These last couple games have to show him that we need atleast 1 more guy to push a bunch of the bottom 6ers down 1 spot. That said, if Chinakhov is actually considered close I wouldn't be shocked if he's that guy. He would be in a weird spot though. Maybe Chinakhov-Danforth-Olivier with ZAR-Kuraly-Pyhttia being the 4th line. Won't get much help offensively but it would be a line we could trust

 

[Viqsi]

I want forward help, badly. The fourth line was getting caved in all evening and I'm kind of done with it.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

I want forward help, badly. The fourth line was getting caved in all evening and I'm kind of done with it.

jenner line had an 11% xG share tonight, they were brutal too.

 

[Viqsi]

jenner line had an 11% xG share tonight, they were brutal too.

I figure that'll be settled once Monahan makes it back.

 

[Indy18]

I been one of the major pushers to sell #9 but at this point I think we should treat him as a deadline acquisition with our “first”.

Considering this is a weakish draft I would like to hear us circle around again back to Bjorkstand because he has term but really I don’t really want to start burning 1st in this sellers market.

Yes playoff experience is important but we are still not at full strength yet with 4 players on the way back at some point

 

[MissADD]

Jones to Florida

 

[majormajor]

I had a somewhat similar thought after watching more draft content. The hockey prospect scouts think there's not going to be many NHLers coming after the top picks.

This would be a good year to move picks for players, if you can.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I think Don is going to buy a depth scorer if possible. Other than that I think we sit still

 

[Indy18]

I had a somewhat similar thought after watching more draft content. The hockey prospect scouts think there's not going to be many NHLers coming after the top picks.

This would be a good year to move picks for players, if you can.

What would you pay for Bjorkstrand or a Greenway at the point or considering assets for someone ,more premium like Rakell? I know if we want to spend the first we need to have term.

 

[majormajor]

What would you pay for Bjorkstrand or a Greenway at the point or considering assets for someone like Rakell? I know if we want to spend the first we need to have term.

Folks can call me a fan (true) but Bjorkstrand is the most consistent of those three and will elevate a third line if you ask him to. Greenway is okay (I don't think the Sabres move him) and Rakell is going to need a bigger role to justify his acquisition cost.

Seattle wants prospects that are closer, and that's where it gets tricky, because I'd rather be spending picks (especially from this draft). I don't think they trade him this year unless they really like a prospect. We've already talked about how none of us are interested in moving Brindley or LDBB for him. And Seattle is loaded with forward prospects anyways. They might be more swayable on D.

Maybe the 2025 late 1st + Svozil/Hunt? Or late 1st + Ceulemans + 3rd? (it sounds like Ceulemans has returned to legit prospect status).

Those are the conversations I'd have with Seattle FO in case they happen to really like one of our D prospects.


** Luca Marrelli might also be the right piece here for a deal, but I don't have a great read on his value as a prospect (too high? not high enough?) and he's still very raw and far away.

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

Jones to Florida

I guess Ekblad is going to be a UFA then. In a vacuum, he'd be introguing, but that'll probably be a deal that I'll be happy to see Columbus steer well clear of, given his injuries.

 

[EspenK]

I been one of the major pushers to sell #9 but at this point I think we should treat him as a deadline acquisition with our “first”.

Considering this is a weakish draft I would like to hear us circle around again back to Bjorkstand because he has term but really I don’t really want to start burning 1st in this sellers market.

Yes playoff experience is important but we are still not at full strength yet with 4 players on the way back at some point

This is pretty much where I am regarding Provorov. I think the team has earned the right to try to make the playoffs and see what they can do. The only exception would be a too good to be true offer for him. I have no idea what that would be but I'm guessing he'll be a Jacket come Saturday morning.

 

[Doggy]

In TA's article regarding likely assets traded at the TDL, Porty said (good stuff to read on many of the teams):

Columbus Blue Jackets​

2025 fourth-round pick or 2026 third-round pick​

There’s a chance Don Waddell trades defenseman Ivan Provorov, right winger Mathieu Olivier or another prominent pending UFA if he gets a substantial offer, but it’s hard to see him messing with the core of this club after the season they’ve had. Think mid-round picks. He’s got two fourths this summer, so there’s some flexibility.

NHL trade deadline 2025: Which player (or pick) each team is most likely to deal

Who or what will your team be saying goodbye to before the deadline? Here are our writers’ picks for the most likely assets to be dealt.

www.nytimes.com

 

[alphafox]

I really wish that GMDW would swing for the fences. I think Boeser out of Van (Apparently he refused a 5x8 mil due to term and I would be happy to give him 6.) or even JJ Peterka out of Buffalo would be the way to really set this team up with depth now and into the future on the forward side.

Additionally, I think given the Seth Jones return you have to trade Provorov and then flip assets. If Jones on that contract pulls back a 1st then what does Provorov return at 50% retained? you might even be able to pull back enough to go get Karlsson from Pitt and keep a 1st round pick.

 

[EspenK]

I really wish that Evanson would swing for the fences. I think Boeser out of Van (Apparently he refused a 5x8 mil due to term and I would be happy to give him 6.) or even JJ Peterka out of Buffalo would be the way to really set this team up with depth now and into the future on the forward side.

Additionally, I think given the Seth Jones return you have to trade Proverov and then flip assets. If Jones on that contract pulls back a 1st then what does Proverov return at 50% retained? you might even be able to pull back enough to go get Karlsson from Pitt and keep a 1st round pick.

YTF would we want Karlsson? Yesterday's news.

 

[Doggy]

I really wish that Evanson Waddell would swing for the fences. I think Boeser out of Van (Apparently he refused a 5x8 mil due to term and I would be happy to give him 6.) or even JJ Peterka out of Buffalo would be the way to really set this team up with depth now and into the future on the forward side.

Additionally, I think given the Seth Jones return you have to trade Proverov and then flip assets. If Jones on that contract pulls back a 1st then what does Proverov return at 50% retained? you might even be able to pull back enough to go get Karlsson from Pitt and keep a 1st round pick.

Fixed it for ya.

I am surprised what Chicago got for Jones...high risk high reward for Florida. Hard to argue with what Zito has done in Florida though. We always assumed Provorov is worth a first round pick, the question now becomes...is he worth a little more. Either way, and I have always been a "need to trade Provorov and get the assets" and I don't think that's the slam dunk right move anymore. Waddell's gotta be really impressed by a trade offer to move Provy at the TDL.

And I don't think I want two more years of Karlsson at $10M.

 

[koteka]

I am officially in the do nothing camp now. I feel the team as constructed has earned the right to finish the season and try to make the playoffs. This has been a strange year, and I am not going to assess it like a normal season. These guys have come together in a unique way bonded by tragedy, not unlike that first season in Las Vegas. Let’s leave the team together.

We have 3 goalies who have earned the right to finish our season - Elvis, Tarasov, and Jet. I don’t know if any of them is the long-term answer, but I do know that Elvis leading us to the playoffs makes Elvis look a lot different in an off-season trade scenario.

Our defense is suspect and I would love to make some major changes, but I am willing to wait until the summer. I’ll treat Provorov as a self rental and be willing to give up what we could get in a trade for letting this team stay together and fight for their chance to make the playoffs.

I would not risk adding a depth scorer. Let the forwards show us what they can do. Maybe we get Chinakhov and that deadly wrister back, and there is the depth scoring. Monahan returning gives us all kinds of options. Maybe Pyyhtia, who has already been a better pick than anyone expected, is a playoff monster. Anyway, I don’t want to screw up the room by adding a guy that might not fit.

We have 11 home games and 11 road games left. All the road games are in the Eastern time zone. Our longest road trip is 4 games, and it is actually our next 4 games. There is a chance Ovi will have the record before we play the Caps and Washington could be resting guys for the playoffs. It is not a bad schedule for the rest of the season.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Rangers, like Boston, appear to be punting.

Is smith good enough to trade a 3rd or 4th for?

 

[alphafox]

YTF would we want Karlsson? Yesterday's news.

I'd still put him as an upgrade vs Provorov, particularly paired with Denton, and you only do the deal because he is cheap and the Pens Retain

 

[Doggy]

I'd still put him as an upgrade vs Provorov, particularly paired with Denton, and you only do the deal because he is cheap and the Pens Retain

In what way? Karlsson has a lot more offense in his game but he has never been the best d-man. As much as some people don't love Provy's defense, he is better than Karlsson, much more of a complete 200' player and a really comfortable compliment to Mateychuk. I don't think Karlsson is a guy worth upsetting the apple cart for.

 

[alphafox]

Fixed it for ya.

I am surprised what Chicago got for Jones...high risk high reward for Florida. Hard to argue with what Zito has done in Florida though. We always assumed Provorov is worth a first round pick, the question now becomes...is he worth a little more. Either way, and I have always been a "need to trade Provorov and get the assets" and I don't think that's the slam dunk right move anymore. Waddell's gotta be really impressed by a trade offer to move Provy at the TDL.

And I don't think I want two more years of Karlsson at $10M.

I think given the price and assuming we retain max cap hit he is probably worth a 1st and a 3rd, maybe a 1st and a second. At that point I think you take that from say Edmonton and then use those assets to land a major upgrade to give the team the potential to make some noise in the playoffs.

I honestly think that we get steamrolled by most of the teams we potentially face as the team stands now just because matchups are pretty brutal for us.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Also something I just thought of, with our ample amount of cap space, if ownership is willing, we could broker some of these deadline deals if teams need a 3rd party to eat salary. We could recoup more picks to use as ammo this summer or perhaps even flip them at the deadline if they have enough time.

 

[koteka]

I believe in standing pat, but here are some off the radar pick ups that might not cost much (and have won Cups):

forwards:
Ryan O’Reilly - 2 more seasons - cap hit $4.5 million/season, salary owed - $4 million/season
Patrick Maroon - UFA
Bryan Rust - 3 more seasons - cap hit $5.125 million/season, salary owed - $5.1 million/season for 25-26 and $3.7 million/season for next 2 seasons

defense:
Jan Rutta - UFA after this season
Alec Martinez - UFA after this season

An off the radar guy that is UFA and never won a Cup but often made the playoffs is Jason Zucker. He is UFA.

I throw the defensemen in there in case we do get a good offer on Provorov. Trade Provorov 50% retained and replace him with 3 time Cup winner Martinez (who played college hockey in Ohio)? I could see that.

 

[Indy18]

The fact we are playing basically nothing but playoff teams the rest of the year is excellent experience for the kids regardless. Make every game count against the best of the league for a majority of the month of March is going to be so good for this team long term. Also like pointed above we play Caps back to back who will probably be more interested in Ovi's personal goals and a potentially depleted Buffalo, Philly and Islanders team. Still up until March 20 this is gonna be brutal...but if you want to be in the playoffs you gotta play well against the best.

 

[NotWendell]

Jones to Florida

Good for us. The best trade you make is sometimes the one you don't make.