Stanley Cup Finals: (WC2) Florida Panthers vs (P1) Vegas Golden Knights | VGK Lead 3-1

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BHD

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Vegas has made big moves en route to multiple appearances in the final four. It was only a matter of time before everything came together and they were able to get back to the SCF. Florida is riding the momentum, but Vegas has the experience in spades. Yes, the Panthers won't be an easy out, but the Knights have looked REALLY good at times.

I'm going with the Knights in 5, albeit close, games.
 

thomast

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DeBoer is actually really good friend of Maurice. There is good chance, that Panthers will get valuable information of beating knights. I think Vegas is favourite though. That team is so deep in every position with star power in Eichel and co.
 

willy702

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DeBoer is actually really good friend of Maurice. There is good chance, that Panthers will get valuable information of beating knights. I think Vegas is favourite though. That team is so deep in every position with star power in Eichel and co.
There is no secret information anymore in this age of video. Besides PDB did nothing but suppress a lot of potential offense with his rigid system and just like always had a nice first year bump. Give it another year and Dallas fans will be asking was he the right choice as coach, same as it has been in all his other stops. Funny he keeps Steve Spott around always, most useless assistant ever.
 

thomast

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There is no secret information anymore in this age of video. Besides PDB did nothing but suppress a lot of potential offense with his rigid system and just like always had a nice first year bump. Give it another year and Dallas fans will be asking was he the right choice as coach, same as it has been in all his other stops. Funny he keeps Steve Spott around always, most useless assistant ever.
This might be mostly correct, but there could be more information behind the scenes.
 

SeanMoneyHands

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Vegas needs to take advantage of Florida's long layoff. Teams who had a long layoff almost always come out slow. It's very hard on players when playing a game every 48 hours and then all of a sudden you're not playing for 10 days. It kills their rythym.

Florida needs a split in Vegas even if they need time to get back up to speed.
 

wetcoast

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2nd finals appearance for both teams. We'll have a 1st time Cup winner. After this series there will be 11 teams without a Cup.
As a Canuck fan I disrespectfully hate for you to bring this up.....just saying.

Took Vegas in 6 but there have been a ton of surprises this year so who really freaking knows.
 

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GP VGK 17 FLA 16
All situations GF VGK 62 FLA 50 GA VGK 45 FLA 43
5v5 GF VGK 48 FLA 33 GA VGK 23 FLA 25

Neither team is especially strong in xGF% or CF%.
Knights need to keep their foot on the gas when they get a lead, they let a team like Florida hang around in games and I could see that going badly for them.
 

Felidae

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Looks like a few people are underestimating Vegas here.

They have one of the few goaltenders who has been almost, or just as good as Bobrovsky these playoffs.
Hill has a .937sv% in 11 games, Bobrovsky has a .935sv% in 14 games.

They are also the highest scoring team this postseason with 62 goals and 45 GA.
Panthers in comparison have scored 50 goals and given up 43.


The main edge Panthers have is in special teams but its not a big one.
Panthers have the 6th most successful PP and ranked 13th for PK..

Vegas is 9th in PP% and 15th In PK%! (Seriously, what the f*** Vegas, our PK is atrocious lmao..)

Never thought we'd face a team with a worse PK than ours in the final but here we are.

All things considered, it looks to be a pretty even matchup.
 
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robertocarlos

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Florida takes it in 7 if Bob keeps the shield up but boy this Vegas team is a really really good team. It can go either way.

Vegas is far deeper in all areas and it’s not even close. Vegas bottom 6 kill Floridas bottom 6 and it’s not even close.
There should be 4 OT games. At least.
 

WhataKnight

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Looks like a few people are underestimating Vegas here.

They have one of the few goaltenders who has been almost, or just as good as Bobrovsky these playoffs.
Hill has a .937sv% in 11 games, Bobrovsky has a .935sv% in 14 games.

They are also the highest scoring team this postseason with 62 goals and 45 GA.
Panthers in comparison have scored 50 goals and given up 43.


The main edge Panthers have is in special teams but its not a big one.
Panthers have the 6th most successful PP and ranked 13th for PK..

Vegas in 9th in PP% and 15th In PK%! (Seriously, what the f*** Vegas, our PK is atrocious lmao..)

Never thought we'd face a team with a worse PK than ours in the final but here we are.

All things considered, it looks to be a pretty even matchup.

FWIW, the PK stats got a bit warped from the Edmonton series.
 

sinDer

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Vegas needs to take advantage of Florida's long layoff. Teams who had a long layoff almost always come out slow. It's very hard on players when playing a game every 48 hours and then all of a sudden you're not playing for 10 days. It kills their rythym.

Florida needs a split in Vegas even if they need time to get back up to speed.

Has it ever happened before a final though (10 days rest)?

Going back into action after a long rest to play the SC final is not the same thing as doing it in February for a meaningless game.

They are pros and are obviously very excited to play this series. I'm not worried at tall. They'll do what they have to do and be ready.

And if they lose this series, it will have nothing to do with the 10 days rest.
 

sinDer

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Looks like a few people are underestimating Vegas here.

They have one of the few goaltenders who has been almost, or just as good as Bobrovsky these playoffs.
Hill has a .937sv% in 11 games, Bobrovsky has a .935sv% in 14 games.

They are also the highest scoring team this postseason with 62 goals and 45 GA.
Panthers in comparison have scored 50 goals and given up 43.


The main edge Panthers have is in special teams but its not a big one.
Panthers have the 6th most successful PP and ranked 13th for PK..

Vegas in 9th in PP% and 15th In PK%! (Seriously, what the f*** Vegas, our PK is atrocious lmao..)

Never thought we'd face a team with a worse PK than ours in the final but here we are.

All things considered, it looks to be a pretty even matchup.

Panthers faced better teams though. Even Toronto. I know we all like to laugh at them, but I wouldn't want the Panthers to play them again. If Panthers had to play another series against Boston and Carolina, they probably both again. To be honest, I'd be a little bit scared to play Toronto again.

But yeah, pretty even matchup I think.
 
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BlueSeal

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It's really nice to have two teams who've never won the Cup go at it. It gives everything a real nice sort of excitement. I've always loved the Cats but I wouldn't mind if Pietrangelo hoisted the Cup just to show how badly Doug Armstrong is screwing the pooch right now. Yeah Army, we'd much prefer Torey Fuggin Krug instead. Idiot.
 
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HanSolo

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Looks like a few people are underestimating Vegas here.

They have one of the few goaltenders who has been almost, or just as good as Bobrovsky these playoffs.
Hill has a .937sv% in 11 games, Bobrovsky has a .935sv% in 14 games.

They are also the highest scoring team this postseason with 62 goals and 45 GA.
Panthers in comparison have scored 50 goals and given up 43.


The main edge Panthers have is in special teams but its not a big one.
Panthers have the 6th most successful PP and ranked 13th for PK..

Vegas is 9th in PP% and 15th In PK%! (Seriously, what the f*** Vegas, our PK is atrocious lmao..)

Never thought we'd face a team with a worse PK than ours in the final but here we are.

All things considered, it looks to be a pretty even matchup.
Vegas' numbers are a bit skewed going up against the most potent powerplay of all time, but still, yeah. It's pretty baffling that Vegas is generally strong at defending 5 on 5 but are dramatically worse in a shorthanded situation. One of the few spots where Cassidy's VGK are weaker than their predecessors.
 
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