SSM Greyhounds 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I

[DWI Dale]

Didn't take Nordh long to light the lamp!

 

[Fischhaber]

What a treat it was to watch Noel Nordh in his first game. Lots of people are down on the team, but he's worth the price of admission on his own.

Miller with another stellar performance. That series of saves late in the 2nd was unreal. I'm not sure what happened to start the season, but he's got a .908 SV% and 2.71 GAA in his last 4 games, which is more of what we expected.

I think we can expect this team to rack up a lot of pre-deadline wins if everyone stays healthy.

 

[93MemCup]

Solid effort by the pups tonight with a 3-2 win over visiting 67’s. Landon Miller solid between the pipes and deserving of 2nd star honours. Hounds are still giving away glorious scoring chances and goaltending is covering up for them .
Noel Nordh with a solid debut with a goal and 2 assists and definitely brought a pro game with him back from Tucson

 

[93MemCup]

What a treat it was to watch Noel Nordh in his first game. Lots of people are down on the team, but he's worth the price of admission on his own.

Miller with another stellar performance. That series of saves late in the 2nd was unreal. I'm not sure what happened to start the season, but he's got a .908 SV% and 2.71 GAA in his last 4 games, which is more of what we expected.

I think we can expect this team to rack up a lot of pre-deadline wins if everyone stays healthy.

Great assessment! I liked Miller’s game for the most part but I thought his rebound control was iffy at times. Kicking the puck out to the high danger zones is not a recipe for success.He certainly squared to the shooter and gave them little to aim at. He has gained a lot of confidence since coming in on Wednesday in his relief appearance.

I really liked the puck pressure and forecheck in the game.
A couple of outstanding backchecks from Martin and Allard stood out for me as well.
With a nice 4game win streak in their back pocket, it will be interesting to see if they can continue their revitalized play on the road, starting in Windsor

 

[sculpins]

Great assessment! I liked Miller’s game for the most part but I thought his rebound control was iffy at times. Kicking the puck out to the high danger zones is not a recipe for success.He certainly squared to the shooter and gave them little to aim at. He has gained a lot of confidence since coming in on Wednesday in his relief appearance.

I really liked the puck pressure and forecheck in the game.
A couple of outstanding backchecks from Martin and Allard stood out for me as well.
With a nice 4game win streak in their back pocket, it will be interesting to see if they can continue their revitalized play on the road, starting in Windsor

Caution ! I saw a 3rd. period collapse with Miller saving the day. Upcoming road trip will be very telling.

 

[JoeSchmo]

Biggest indicator after being a fan a long time..

Soo isn’t saying the word championship publicly in the paper lol.

What a treat it was to watch Noel Nordh in his first game. Lots of people are down on the team, but he's worth the price of admission on his own.

Miller with another stellar performance. That series of saves late in the 2nd was unreal. I'm not sure what happened to start the season, but he's got a .908 SV% and 2.71 GAA in his last 4 games, which is more of what we expected.

I think we can expect this team to rack up a lot of pre-deadline wins if everyone stays healthy.

Man does Miller ever fight with the puck in net. My best friend is a goalie and he said Miller makes the game a lot harder on himself and he fights the puck all game, there wasn’t a moment he was calm in net.

 

[OHLfan200]

Biggest indicator after being a fan a long time..

Soo isn’t saying the word championship publicly in the paper lol.



Man does Miller ever fight with the puck in net. My best friend is a goalie and he said Miller makes the game a lot harder on himself and he fights the puck all game, there wasn’t a moment he was calm in net.

That’s a huge tell and a great point. Sounds like they are more concerned with winning games in the present and staying competitive. Definitely a good sign, considering I am getting nervous that the organization will get greedy and see dollar signs. It’s great to see Miller have success, he’s definitely unorthodox and yes, always looks like he’s fighting the puck. I thought he did a great job of coming off the goal line and challenging the shooters on Friday.

 

[Sakic fan]

Solid effort by the pups tonight with a 3-2 win over visiting 67’s. Landon Miller solid between the pipes and deserving of 2nd star honours. Hounds are still giving away glorious scoring chances and goaltending is covering up for them .
Noel Nordh with a solid debut with a goal and 2 assists and definitely brought a pro game with him back from Tucson

Nordh looks like a game breaker, should be fun to watch while here. Allard can dominate with his speed and 2 way game. Nice to see Brodie back and flashing his offensive skillset and speed. Miller at times battles the puck and positioning but props to him for a good win and holding down fort in 3rd vs 67s. Getting Carlisle back will help and our D looks like it should settle down with some better pairings. Mignosa looks like he is ready to put up good numbers again.

Lineup getting deeper and will push out some who were struggling. Nice to see them string together a good run while battling injuries, sickness and waiting on pro camp attendees.

 

[JoeSchmo]

 

[Gouin Street]

Hounds will have to get down to 3 Overagers soon. This potential trade will help do that. All teams including Brampton are aware of this. I'm not expecting a big return. But Allard will definitely help any team he's part of. Wonder if anyone else goes with him? Best of luck to him if this is about to happen. Hoping the Hounds and fans are happy with the return.

 

[Fischhaber]

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Allard is one of the top 2 way centres in the league and a former World Junior player. Their first rounder would normally be on the table, but he's already been dealt to Kitchener.

The standard for recent OA trades of this magnitude has been 5-6 high picks, but Raftis' may have reduced leverage if Utah is involved and we may not get Allard's true value in return.

Hounds will have to get down to 3 Overagers soon. This potential trade will help do that. All teams including Brampton are aware of this. I'm not expecting a big return. But Allard will definitely help any team he's part of. Wonder if anyone else goes with him? Best of luck to him if this is about to happen. Hoping the Hounds and fans are happy with the return.

The deadline to get to 3 OA's is in January and one of ours is injured, so there was really no rush in that sense. I think this was pushed by Utah.

 

[JoeSchmo]

Allard is one of the top 2 way centres in the league and a former World Junior player. Their first rounder would normally be on the table, but he's already been dealt to Kitchener.

The standard for recent OA trades of this magnitude has been 5-6 high picks, but Raftis' may have reduced leverage if Utah is involved and we may not get Allard's true value in return.


The deadline to get to 3 OA's is in January and one of ours is injured, so there was really no rush in that sense. I think this was pushed by Utah.

Agreed

 

[HockeyPops]

I would expect maybe 2,3,3.

 

[Rivrfront]

would something like this make sense :
To Hounds :
luke dragusica ( d) 2nd round ohl pick 2023 ( 2007 birth year)
kieran witkowski ( lw ) 2nd round ohl pick 2023 ( 2007 birth year )
jack ivankovic, ( g) 1st round ohl pick 2023 ( 2007 birth year )
To Brampton :
Owen Allard ( oa )
Landon Miller ( g)

 

[agillarda]

would something like this make sense :
To Hounds :
luke dragusica ( d) 2nd round ohl pick 2023 ( 2007 birth year)
kieran witkowski ( lw ) 2nd round ohl pick 2023 ( 2007 birth year )
jack ivankovic, ( g) 1st round ohl pick 2023 ( 2007 birth year )
To Brampton :
Owen Allard ( oa )
Landon Miller ( g)

Ivankovic? Not a chance they traded Leenders to make him the starter

 

[SSMHoundsFan]

would something like this make sense :
To Hounds :
luke dragusica ( d) 2nd round ohl pick 2023 ( 2007 birth year)
kieran witkowski ( lw ) 2nd round ohl pick 2023 ( 2007 birth year )
jack ivankovic, ( g) 1st round ohl pick 2023 ( 2007 birth year )
To Brampton :
Owen Allard ( oa )
Landon Miller ( g)

Get rid of the goalies, throw in some picks from Brampton might have a winner there?

The deadline to get to 3 OA's is in January and one of ours is injured, so there was really no rush in that sense. I think this was pushed by Utah.

Once Schenkel is healthy, him and Dezoete will likely be the odd ones out when it comes to play time, taking their turns sitting out. I can't see Schenkel playing ball with that for too long though either way so something has got to give in the form of Schenkel and/or Allard to be traded soon

 

[JoeSchmo]

Steelheads do not have a 08 or 07 first round player on their roster currently

I would expect maybe 2,3,3.

This sounds more accurate.

Hounds will target 2025 2nd. Barrie 2nd 2025, Ottawa 3rd 2025,London 3rd 2026 would be ideal.

 

[DWI Dale]

Not getting a player back kind of stinks but restocking our cupboards for future deals isn't a bad alternative.

 

[Fischhaber]

I would expect maybe 2,3,3.

That would be a disgustingly small return and probably the worst trade Raftis' has made his tenure. 2 months of Frasca cost more than that and he's not nearly the same caliber of player.

I expect 2,2,2,3,3 if there are no other players. Jack Van Volsen makes sense for a team in need of centres. He'll likely be bumped to the wing if this trade goes through.

 

[Kristina Hazzard]

That would be a disgustingly small return and probably the worst trade Raftis' has made his tenure. 2 months of Frasca cost more than that and he's not nearly the same caliber of player.

I expect 2,2,2,3,3 if there are no other players. Jack Van Volsen makes sense for a team in need of centres. He'll likely be bumped to the wing if this trade goes through.

Who do you think allard is mcdavid?

 

[Fischhaber]

Who do you think allard is mcdavid?

I think a full season of Allard gets more than lesser players at last year's deadline which is what Pops suggested.

 

[Kingpin794]

That would be a disgustingly small return and probably the worst trade Raftis' has made his tenure. 2 months of Frasca cost more than that and he's not nearly the same caliber of player.

I expect 2,2,2,3,3 if there are no other players. Jack Van Volsen makes sense for a team in need of centres. He'll likely be bumped to the wing if this trade goes through.

Logan Morrison, who scored 100 pts at 19, went for 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths. I understand that Allard brings 2 way ability but expecting more than what Morrison got seems like you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

[IceDogs452]

That would be a disgustingly small return and probably the worst trade Raftis' has made his tenure. 2 months of Frasca cost more than that and he's not nearly the same caliber of player.

I expect 2,2,2,3,3 if there are no other players. Jack Van Volsen makes sense for a team in need of centres. He'll likely be bumped to the wing if this trade goes through.

Yeah 2,2,3 seems more realistic. 2,2,2,3,3 would be almost everything they got for Leenders so I don’t see anyway they pay that much.

 

[Fischhaber]

Logan Morrison, who scored 100 pts at 19, went for 2 2nds, 2 3rds, 2 4ths. I understand that Allard brings 2 way ability but expecting more than what Morrison got seems like you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

First off, I would consider the return I proposed to be slightly less and not more, but that's nitpicking a bit.

None of these are massive factors, but in my observation, they do matter when it comes to trades:

- Allard is NHL drafted and Morrison was not
- Allard played in the WJHC and Morrison did not.
- The Steelheads are getting a full season of Allard rather than a partial season
- Allard is a much better defender

I'm not implying that draft status necessarily matters to GM's, but rather that they are an indicator of talent that fans don't always recognize, including myself. That's why they consistently go for more than undrafted players with similar statistics.

 

[DWI Dale]

Fischys price would require two teams that both really want him to drive up the price a little imo. And that's not because I undervalue Allard. I think he's precisely the OA you target if you want a cup.

With regards to Frasca, many of us felt we overpaid for him although I liked what he brought.



If i'm wrong and we make out like bandits I'll be more than happy to eat crow.