Speculation: Speculation, rumours and trade & free agency ideas thread

[Daximus]

I think, of that list, only Lowry would be willing to hang around. Even then, I think it might be better to not have the guys responsible for creating the last environment around to help create the new one. As long as Lowry was ok with taking a back seat to the young group, sure, it might be fine keeping him around out of necessity more than anything.



Luongo asked for a trade after Eddie Lack started the outdoor game over him.

I think he'd probably take a back seat and let the C go if we had a new young captain to come in and lead the new core.

 

[gojetsgo]

He might have to if that gives him the assets to make a further deal using at least some of those draft picks to get the now player he wants. Seems unlikely the team Helly agrees to go to is the team that has what Chevy wants and is willing to give it up. Seems much more likely to me a Helly trade is the first step to another trade.

I doubt he would want to make one trade and then start looking at others, he's most likely gauge the market to see what is available with the #8 pick as well, and we already know what they are looking for in a helle trade from dreger as well

 

[Buffdog]

Trouba sort of came to a head though and I didn't know PLD requested a trade before the season he was moved.

I think there's also a difference between a player "wanting out" and someone "wanting to go a contender"

Player A wants to be moved almost anywhere ASAP whereas Player B might be more patient with management waiting for the right situation to play itself out

 

[WolfHouse]

That festers different things though. He was reluctant to move Kane after repeated trade requests and look how that turned out. Ever since then when a player wants out he moves them, he's patient but they are generally moved.

I’ve always wondered about that Kane rumour… like why didn’t Chevy just trade him a year earlier? He would have still got a haul for him… 5m was not an anchor contract - and he definitely wasn’t the character guy that the Jets were talking about building around

Ive always wondered if the Jets would have moved him at all if Buff didnt force it

 

[WolfHouse]

I think, of that list, only Lowry would be willing to hang around. Even then, I think it might be better to not have the guys responsible for creating the last environment around to help create the new one. As long as Lowry was ok with taking a back seat to the young group, sure, it might be fine keeping him around out of necessity more than anything.



Luongo asked for a trade after Eddie Lack started the outdoor game over him. Schneider had already moved on the year prior.

Oh man I forgot about that… haha

 

[KingBogo]

I doubt he would want to make one trade and then start looking at others, he's most likely gauge the market to see what is available with the #8 pick as well, and we already know what they are looking for in a helle trade from dreger as well

You don’t think Chevy is capable of working on 2 deals at once? The possible deals for 8 are virtually the same for 9.

 

[Daximus]

I’ve always wondered about that Kane rumour… like why didn’t Chevy just trade him a year earlier? He would have still got a haul for him… 5m was not an anchor contract - and he definitely wasn’t the character guy that the Jets were talking about building around

Ive always wondered if the Jets would have moved him at all if Buff didnt force it

It seemed like they weren't all that keen on granting his request. Buff lit the fire. Chevy was perfectly happy sitting on his hands.

 

[roccerfeller]

I can't wait to go back to Pavelec level goaltending...

I’m ok moving Helle for the right price. And he’s prob my fav current Jet. You need to pay to get and we just don’t really have any other assets

I also think he’ll win a cup if he’s moved and there will be a contingent of people asking why we moved him for 20+ pages, taking over social media saying we were “stupid to let him go” , etc etc

 

[WolfHouse]

It seemed like they weren't all that keen on granting his request. Buff lit the fire. Chevy was perfectly happy sitting on his hands.

Yes but why? What was gained from Evander Kane playing half-assed for 40-50 pts?

Not disputing that Chevy will sit on his hands… but I am failing to see the strategic advantage anymore - especially when our only UFA options were Jokinen and Setoguchi

 

[gojetsgo]

You don’t think Chevy is capable of working on 2 deals at once? The possible deals for 8 are virtually the same for 9.

I think he is capable of making two trades at once, I don't think he would want to, I very much doubt that he hasn't gauged the market for what he could get with that #8 pick and I think if he could have filled an area of need with that pick he would have traded it

like we heard the asking price from dreger, he never mentioned anything about the future, he mentioned 2nd line center, defensemen and 4th line center, not draft picks, so idk why we would do a trade full of draft picks

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

They need to add JMo????

They need to add - period - JMO

 

[Eyeseeing]

I just cannot wrap my head around how people let their politics affect their entire lives. That's directed to people on both sides, since it happens

IDGAF what my goalie's views are, as long as he stops the goddamn puck

I wish we could go back to a time where ploitical views and religion weren't discussed in polite society

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[Gm0ney]

So Buffalo moves up from 27 to 20, San Jose moves down 7 and gets the RFA rights to Kesselring (who's not a bad defenseman, but not sure of his health).

Is Buffalo up to something here? Or did the Sharks just want Kesselring?

Going by PuckPedia's pick values, 20th is worth 18.76, and 27th is worth 13.11 (5.65 difference = 46th/47th overall).

So the 20th traded for 27th and a mid-2nd rounder in terms of value.

27th was, and now 20th is, Buffalo's only pick in the first 3 rounds.

Hmmm...

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Just at a basic level... do we think that Helle truly want to be here for much longer?

Not will Chevy actually trade him, not will a team give up enough in return, etc. But does he want to stick around here because he believes we can win a Cup here?

Do we need an insider to confirm a "trade request"? Insiders are, in the most literal way, communications team for the agents and front offices.

It's a matter of when it works for the Jets. And part of that is not having our leverage chopped out from under us by public requests and destination picking. PLD did his best to go full nuclear through media every year and Chevy always held his ground until the time was right.

Not sure if things happen this summer or not... but its pretty obvious what's going on, its a worst kept secret in the NHL

I don't think it is about Winnipeg. He likes it here, AFAIK. But he wants a real shot at a Cup. Whether or not he thinks he can have that here I have no way of knowing. In my opinion, he does not have that here unless we get a miracle. But he may have more faith in his teammates than what I have. Again, my opinion - if he takes a realistic look at the Jets roster he should see that they do not have the horses. Therefore he should have already requested a trade. Jets are not close enough to contend. Bringing in Rosen and Lambert isn't even close to enough to turn it around.

 

[gojetsgo]

So Buffalo moves up from 27 to 20, San Jose moves down 7 and gets the RFA rights to Kesselring (who's not a bad defenseman, but not sure of his health).

Is Buffalo up to something here? Or did the Sharks just want Kesselring?

Going by PuckPedia's pick values, 20th is worth 18.76, and 27th is worth 13.11 (5.65 difference = 46th/47th overall).

So the 20th traded for 27th and a mid-2nd rounder in terms of value.

27th was, and now 20th is, Buffalo's only pick in the first 3 rounds.

Hmmm...

wouldn't read much into it, sharks needed a d-man and buffalo stopped playing kesseling after he struggled with a high ankle sprain, I thought he was pretty likely on the outs when schenn got into a game before him

also only have 11 million in cap space to sign benson krebs and replace tuch

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I thought the 2026 draft thread was our new trade thread.

First Tuesday after the last game of the season and no trade I’d say that’s a premonition of things to come

So ...... trades won't happen on Tuesday for the foreseeable future?

 

[Daximus]

wouldn't read much into it, sharks needed a d-man and buffalo stopped playing kesseling after he struggled with a high ankle sprain, I thought he was pretty likely on the outs when schenn got into a game before him

Yeah he was moved down the lineup. They are pretty set on the top 4 right side as well so maybe they don't have it in the budget to pay Kesselring what he wants to be the 3RD.

Maybe Buffalo is using 20th overall to dangle for Hellebuyck now?

 

[gojetsgo]

Yeah he was moved down the lineup. They are pretty set on the top 4 right side as well so maybe they don't have it in the budget to pay Kesselring what he wants to be the 3RD.

Maybe Buffalo is using 20th overall to dangle for Hellebuyck now?

I think the jets would have less then zero interest in that lol

 

[Buffdog]

I think the jets would have less then zero interest in that lol

Not as the main piece, but as an addition to a young forward and Levi?

We all know that the main piece coming back would be Stanley's rights

 

[KingBogo]

I think he is capable of making two trades at once, I don't think he would want to, I very much doubt that he hasn't gauged the market for what he could get with that #8 pick and I think if he could have filled an area of need with that pick he would have traded it

like we heard the asking price from dreger, he never mentioned anything about the future, he mentioned 2nd line center, defensemen and 4th line center, not draft picks, so idk why we would do a trade full of draft picks

But what team that Helly might agree to go to is offering up those now assets? Chevy is looking for that, all I’m saying is it might be a 2 part process. Trade to Florida for futures and then trade to a team wanting to move out now pieces for a nice future package. Maybe it is a 3 way trade, but the futures and now markets tend to involve very different teams.

 

[WolfHouse]

Yeah he was moved down the lineup. They are pretty set on the top 4 right side as well so maybe they don't have it in the budget to pay Kesselring what he wants to be the 3RD.

Maybe Buffalo is using 20th overall to dangle for Hellebuyck now?

20OA (Preston), Helenius, Mrtka and UPL for Helle, Lambert

 

[gojetsgo]

But what team that Helly might agree to go to is offering up those now assets? Chevy is looking for that, all I’m saying is it might be a 2 part process. Trade to Florida for futures and then trade to a team wanting to move out now pieces for a nice future package. Maybe it is a 3 way trade, but the futures and now markets tend to involve very different teams.

if we can get a 3rd team involved then that would make more sense, but the only legit report we got that is they are willing to consider moving him if they get a 2C + +

 

[flin flon bombers]

I’m ok moving Helle for the right price. And he’s prob my fav current Jet. You need to pay to get and we just don’t really have any other assets

I also think he’ll win a cup if he’s moved and there will be a contingent of people asking why we moved him for 20+ pages, taking over social media saying we were “stupid to let him go” , etc etc

Or we get a great asset that we cheer for for the next 15 years and helle continues his playoff struggles and everyone says what a great trade,time will tell.

 

[Daximus]

I think the jets would have less then zero interest in that lol

I could see it as part of a larger package.

20th overall, Devon Levi, Konsta Helenius, Anton Wahlberg.

mid 1st, potential starter who maybe needs a change of scenery, middle 6 C with top 6 upside, young big forward with top 6 upside could maybe be a middle 6 C option down the line.


Would Helle waive for Buffalo though?

 

[tbcwpg]

Yes but why? What was gained from Evander Kane playing half-assed for 40-50 pts?

Not disputing that Chevy will sit on his hands… but I am failing to see the strategic advantage anymore - especially when our only UFA options were Jokinen and Setoguchi

It was fairly early in the franchise's return here. I think the idea was to show that, if you're here, you're here. Grant one request and you're getting more. I think they've altered that line of thinking now but that's my best guess.

I could see it as part of a larger package.

20th overall, Devon Levi, Konsta Helenius, Anton Wahlberg.

mid 1st, potential starter who maybe needs a change of scenery, middle 6 C with top 6 upside, young big forward with top 6 upside could maybe be a middle 6 C option down the line.


Would Helle waive for Buffalo though?

I doubt he waives for Buffalo. Seems like Tuch is leaving and you're removing even more roster players to get Hellebuyck. They've had their own struggles attracting players too.