Confirmed Trade: [SJS/DET] Jake Walman and 2024 2nd round pick for future considerations

[ShelbyZ]

Pagnotta, so probably not right, but could be

If the Wings had to pay a 2nd to get rid of Walman, then Zegras better be coming back with Gibson for future considerations.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Pagnotta, so probably not right, but could be

Yzerman and Verbeek are pretty tight lipped and good friends. I sincerely doubt there's any leaks from either organization.

Trouba for Copp??

If you want to throw in Fabbri for Kakko can do that too.

 

[abo9]

Yzerman turns around, trades for Morgan Reilly, and Toronto signs Montour

 

[Reality Czech]

Don't think Walman was as good as some claimed in recent years, but I sure thought he'd be worth more than nothing. Less than nothing, even.

 

[themelkman]

I mean I would assume one of the considerations bare minimum is we are getting to swap our first round pick or at least protect our pick from being selected in front of us by San Jose.

Even with the strange end to the season surrounding Walman, I do think the future considerations are more than the usual throw away here.

Would that be reported somewhere? Or would it all be behind the scenes?

Does the league actually enforce future considerations deals

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Pagnotta, so probably not right, but could be

He is the goalie a lot of our board has locked in on. If Verbeek will take on Husso for a year with a prospect or Berggren I could see this move making a ton of sense.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Yzerman turns around, trades for Morgan Reilly, and Toronto signs Montour

 

[RedHawkDown]

If this move is to make room to re-sign Gostisbehere, I'm going to be furious.

 

[Nut Upstrom]

Really hope this wasn't a sacrifice given up to be able to re-sign Ghostisbehere. Has to be something else to this, but please not that.

If this move is to make room to re-sign Gostisbehere, I'm going to be furious.

Shoot, hadnt read your post. But Im of a like mind. Furious indeed.

 

[JKG33]

Would not be surprised at all if Detroit gets Gibson. There was that rumor Yzerman wants a goalie for more than just a couple years. I predicted a Gibson for Husso+ trade a bit ago

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

If this move is to make room to re-sign Gostisbehere, I'm going to be furious.

Ghost is a better version of Walman that can play both sides. I just don't want to pay him, but for the people saying Walman was a our second best defender, for a little while yes. Then his game fell off a cliff, that did happen it seems a lot of people missed the version of him that wasn't trying from February on. I get that he got nicked, but he missed on a lot of effort plays in March, it appears they have moved on from him as a result.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Really hope this wasn't a sacrifice given up to be able to re-sign Ghostisbehere. Has to be something else to this, but please not that.


Shoot, hadnt read your post. But Im of a like mind. Furious indeed.

Same. Detroit could have lost Walman to SJC as a waiver pickup with no 2nd rounder. My hope is that there's another guy that's being waived by a team, San Jose picks them up, then trades that guy to Detroit.

 

[67 others]

I mean I would assume one of the considerations bare minimum is we are getting to swap our first round pick or at least protect our pick from being selected in front of us by San Jose.

Even with the strange end to the season surrounding Walman, I do think the future considerations are more than the usual throw away here.

It's probably as simple as sending them whichever of blackwood/Vanecek are doing better 10 games in for Husso.

That alone saves Detroit another 1.3 to 2 million in cap space lol

 

[Filthy Dangles]

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[The Zetterberg Era]

Would that be reported somewhere? Or would it all be behind the scenes?

Does the league actually enforce future considerations deals

There are times when they announce it later with the league. Most the time we hear this there is no reason to really follow up. We will see if this is a case where there really is an attached value. Low end I would think it prevents them from picking the guy we like at 14 with us picking behind them. It could be more, the waiver priority claim is probably a good one if they know somebody they like is hitting the market and San Jose can scoop that person up for them.

Not sure, but it doesn't feel straight forward. I thought with the second acquisition from Nashville it was Holl, but clearly things soured with Walman quite a bit down the stretch.

 

[saska sault]

Ghost is a better version of Walman that can play both sides. I just don't want to pay him, but for the people saying Walman was a our second best defender, for a little while yes. Then his game fell off a cliff, that did happen it seems a lot of people missed the version of him that wasn't trying from February on. I get that he got nicked, but he missed on a lot of effort plays in March, it appears they have moved on from him as a result.

Mantha, Vrana, Walman... anyone see the trend?

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Mantha, Vrana, Walman... anyone see the trend?

Yzerman would get guys shipped out as a player that took plays off, so this isn't very surprising he has very little time for it as an executive.

 

[deca guard]

sjs must be sending something to a 3rd team whom then sends something to detroit . yes im stoked to get the stupid griddy dance routine gone but walman is a solid dman with power skating and shot on a good contract .

 

[ZDH]

Well, there goes any shot of Zadorov in Detroit ever.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

sjs must be sending something to a 3rd team whom then sends something to detroit . yes im stoked to get the stupid griddy dance routine gone but walman is a solid dman with power skating and shot on a good contract .

That's pretty much my thought as well. There has to be something more to this or Yzerman just lost the plot.

 

[dirtydanglez]

haven't been impressed with mike grier at all but the sharks are having a decent offseason so far.

 

[GKJ]

Why Red Wings do this without ever waiving Walman?

 

[dragonballgtz]

I'm guessing Yzerman couldn't move Holl or Petry even with a 2nd?

I know Walman was out of the lineup down the stretch but did they really sour on him this much? This trade is weird man.

 

[bossram]

Is this part of the Yzerplan? Some 4D chess going on?

Extremely bizarre move. Is there really no team that wanted Walman, even for free? Seems hard to believe that.

 

[TommyDangles]

Clearing space for another Yzerman classic FA signing

Chandler Stephenson 6x6M