BraveCanadian
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A bigger name or names are going to become red wings.Wut..?
Stevie Y has to have something brewing to do this..
With what cap space? They will have 16+ million locked up in Raymond and Seider and will need to fill 9 more roster spots. Sounds like Ghost is going to get a raise so that’ll be another 6 million off the books. Leaving 10 million to re-sign Veleno and 7 other players.A bigger name or names are going to become red wings.
Mike Grier asked Dean Winchester about his best hoodoo and used it on Stevie Y.
San jose has used 3 retention spots and have no retention spots left. This trade is finalized, it was walman and 2nd for nothing.The future considerations return paired with the additional second makes me think SJ is going to be retaining salary in a trade, possibly to move out Husso in a Saros trade. There is nothing to indicate that Walman needed to be a cap dump. Without additional trades this is just a really bad, unnecessary, dumb move.
Wait so they traded Walman+Gibson for Kiiskinen?
It somehow looked even worse when framed like that.
One can actually play on the PP in the NHL and the other cannot. That seems a pretty massive thing to overlook. I also wouldn't pay Ghost, but it isn't controversial to point out what they like about him and the areas yes offensively where he shells Walman. Both struggle defensively.He plays both sides, but he really can't. He's useless on the left, because it's not advantageous to him offensively and defensively he sucks on either side. I would 1000% prefer Walman for 2 years at $3.whatever over Ghost at whatever the f*** he's signing for this summer.
San jose has used 3 retention spots and have no retention spots left. This trade is finalized, it was walman and 2nd for nothing.
Technically Yzerman traded UFA cap dump Nick Leddy for Kiiskinen + Larry Keenan.
Lots of players can play on the PP. Including ones already on the roster. Ghost is Barrie with a weird name.One can actually play on the PP in the NHL and the other cannot. That seems a pretty massive thing to overlook. I also wouldn't pay Ghost, but it isn't controversial to point out what they like about him and the areas yes offensively where he shells Walman. Both struggle defensively.
I have been a fan of Walman clear back to his days at Providence. He had a very poor second half and Yzerman is shipping him out. I don't know what his next plan is but he is clearly building towards something. We missed the playoffs and he is making another roster adjustment, that his job. It might suck if he does it to a guy most like, but the organization lost faith.
I also think stapling him to Seider drags Mo down a little. I would like Seider to have the more defensive partner while being the more offensive guy. I think he has rounded his game a lot, but I would really like to put him in a more offensive role, having Edvinsson up should help the top 4 a lot.
To be fair this is one of the trades for future considerations that caught pretty much everyone off gaurdThis is part of the fun with this whole thing.
Like 99% of trades for "future considerations" end with nothing eventually going the other way, but when the infallible Steve Yzerman makes one it MUST mean that he's playing some 7D chess with this trade being the first marble in some Rube Goldberg like trade chain that ends up with the Wings getting some colossal return.
Leddy wasn't a UFA signing. Yzerman traded a 2nd round pick and a cap dump in Richard Panik to get him from the Islanders.
Given his contract being one of the most reasonable Detroit has on defense and the fact he was the 2nd best defender on Detroit most nights, this is baffling.Isn’t he a decent #4 defenseman? Other than his lame ass celebrations, why would they give up a 2nd to offload him?
Leddy wasn't a UFA signing. Yzerman traded a 2nd round pick and a cap dump in Richard Panik to get him from the Islanders.
Go deeper. Yzerman acquired that Oilers 2nd round pick from a Panik cap dump. Free assets.
Out of all these free 2nd rounders thrown around, Yzerman got service out of Leddy, Sundqvist, Panik (I think) and Walman.
That's more service he would have gotten out of any late 2nd rounder he may have selected. And now he has Kiiskinen to show for it (again, free asset). Net positive + for Yzerman.
Of course. Chances are they get paid on both ends of Walman's tenure in San Jose. Don't run into that very often. Wouldn't surprise me if he got another 2nd sometime during the 2025-26 season.San Jose definitely loves this no matter what.
you are on a message forum right now spewing off gargled BullShyt.
I clearly stated I wouldn’t re-sign him. I also pointed out there are reasons he has more value and earning potential than Walman.Lots of players can play on the PP. Including ones already on the roster. Ghost is Barrie with a weird name.
Ghost bleeds goal against at a precipitous rate and is one of the worst offensive generators at ES on the Wings. Only Fischer, Kostin, Czarnik, Aston-Reese and Veleno had lower GF/60 than Ghost. And the PP performed better with Seider than Ghost. So what even is the f***ing point of him?