Defensemen get beaten on the boards all the time. It's usually not a problem, unless the partner decided to check out of the game 10 minutes early.
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Defensemen get beaten on the boards all the time. It's usually not a problem, unless the partner decided to check out of the game 10 minutes early.
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The Bergeron goal was about 85% Gardiners fault. He let the Bruins take the puck behind the net and pass it in front without even a feeble attempt to stop him.
I really like Gardiner and he has some really strong output but after watching his weak defensive play this game it's quite apparant why he wasn't brought up sooner. He's actually regressed from last year.
I concur. Lupul has scored a goal in every game he's played with Kadri, I'm pretty sure he's more than fine playing with someone who cares and tries versus a one trick pony who can skate fast, has a good shot but brings nothing else to the table.
So go ahead aall you want. I'll just
on cuz I'm right and you're wrong.
Same with Kulemin, who has been on fire playing with Kadri; on the contrary, CMac has really cooled off.
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I love when people talk nonsense.
Here's the video. Enlighten the thread as to how he "Stripped it from Gardiner along the boards behind the net".
p.l.f.
use the force
upbeat post:
considering we were expecting to get burried by a hungry bruins team,
i thought we fared suprisingly well.
and reimer was great
considering we were expecting to get burried by a hungry bruins team,
i thought we fared suprisingly well.
and reimer was great
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not really.
like there were TIMES where yah, we could have been murderlized.
but we had some really good chances. maybe 5-4
there were two clear oppertunities to "shoot" and I think it was Kostka/Bozak who passed.... totally different game.
Grabovski on the two on one with kostka, Grabo passed very early on in the 2-1 to kostka which was tipped by the defender and the chance was completely wasted. He should have taken the shot, without question. Regardless, Grabo was being too cute all game.
Edit: Grabo made a few cute plays too many. I can't say he was too cute all game, because he made a couple solid plays as well.
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Just one more thing about Gardiner - how many defensemen on this team make the play that he made on Lupul's goal?
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Exactly which is why I'm quite certain/convinced that given his druthers Lupul would prefer to play with Kadri. I've played with similar type players to Kessel in the past and it sucks. Give me the guy who plays hard and tries everytime over the floater who happens to have a good shot.
notdoneyet
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before the two games started if someone said we would get 3 points, almost all the posters on this board would have said no chance. No one and I mean No one on this board actually thought we could get 3/4 points from these games. A lot of people hoped we could at least get a split, the extra point is gravy.
It wasnt pretty but the boys got the job done
It wasnt pretty but the boys got the job done
7even
Offered and lost
Everyone -- including me -- thought he was going to shoot. That was a damn sexy pass.
Hurt
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Not embarrassed to admit that I was in the 0/4 boat but I'm really glad we got 3/4. Now if they don't let us down tomorrow and the rest of the week, we might have something on our hands.
Zero. Phaneuf probably misses the net, Carl Gunnarsson passes the wrong way, Koskta probably breaks his stick while shooting, Franson/Fraser wouldn't even skate that high.
Duffman955
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We all know he is magical offensively, it's his play in his own end which needs improvement.
What ever, he will learn. BTW, why the hell is he falling on every 2 on 2 play
notdoneyet
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every game is tough now
especially the back to back when the other team is rested
Even though florida is bad we cant take them for granted.
inthe6ix
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Yeah Gards got beat, but Dion just sitting there watching Bergeron setup for his backhand was pathetic - I understand that he may not want to screen Reimer (hell, who knows, maybe Reimer told him before the game, that he'd rather see the shot clean, and have a guy walk up to the doorstep instead of be screened), but you gotta make an effort there to at least stretch out your stick.
Setting up a backhand takes a long time, and that goal should never have happened.
HockeyThoughts
Delivering The Truth
No Cam Ward = Good match-up for any team facing them.
Notes:
-Meh, I'll take the 3/4 points against Boston and move along. We put up a good effort and competed against one of the most physical and defensively sound teams in the league. They also have the #1 PK(~92%) and we were able to score on the PP against them.
-It's great to have the confident goal scoring Nikolai Kulemin back. He never stopped forechecking, hitting and putting in an honest effort every game but seeing him pot a few goals should raise the spirits of any fan who remembers his spectacular 10/11 campaign.
-The Lupul-Kadri-Kulemin line might just be our most balanced and most effective line. Great on the forecheck and have countless chances a period. For the sake of chemistry I wouldn't mind re-trying Kulemin on the PP and letting Grabovski log a few PP shifts with the Kessel/JVR pairing instead.
-It's crazy to say it, but I think we might just be a more physical team then the Boston Bruins this season. We were throwing our bodies around all over the ice and that's even without Leo Komarov.
-The Bruins own at the faceoffs and it's a very big part of their ability to maintain the zone and cycle the puck. I was very impressed by their sustained offensive attack throughout the game.
-We are awesome at OT. We are terrible at SO's. Even if we were good at SO's I think they should increase the OT to 10 minutes.. I think the game's would end in the extra time instead of the skills competition more often in that scenario. Furthermore, I think the 1pt for making it to the extra time is just idiotic. What difference is it if you lose in regulation or after 5 extra minutes.. A LOSS IS A LOSS!
-My opinion on the tying goal is that both Jake Gardiner and Dion Phaneuf should share an equal amount of blame. Gardiner was outmuscled by a much larger Dougie Hamilton and gave him too much room to make a play. Phaneuf read the play all wrong and thought he was defending a 2 on 1 in front of the net. He should have obvious tied up Bergeron and the goal would have never happened.
-Don't really understand why Zdeno Chara was the 2nd Star. He was rather unimpressive tonight IMO.
-I really, really don't like Mike Kostka. Everytime he plays I try.. I really try, to appreciate his game but wow is he just bad. Doesn't bring anything offensively to the table, yet he logs PP time. Moreover, he is barely passable defensively. It is abundantly clear why it took him until 27 years of age to log his game in the NHL -- he is just not an NHL-caliber defenseman.
Seriously?
That floater happens to be one of the best playmaking wingers in the league.
He has his shortcomings...but not every team has Chara.
Kadri went after Chara twice...Kessel wouldn't want to be anywhere near Chara.
Some players are soft, some aren't.
You don't think Seguin is soft as butter? Spend some time and watch his game, he will never go to fight for a puck, hates getting hit and going to the corners/board battles.
Why doesn't he get flack for it? He's on a better team. Put Kessel back in Boston and he's PPG along with a +20.
Seguin almost has a higher +/- than the points he has...when was the last time a top six forward had that?
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Not really. He's actually pretty below average. Active goalies with 20+ shootouts plus Reimer:
Lundqvist - .762
Fleury - .759
Niemi - .754
Crawford - .754
Garon - .752
Hedberg - .752
DiPietro - .730
Rinne - .725
Thomas - .721
Lehtonen - .717
Brodeur - .713
Halak - .710
Quick - .707
Hiller - .699
Price - .698
Mason - .697
Miller - .696
Theodore - .679
Luongo - .667
Rask - .667
Vokoun - .663
Anderson - .658
Nabokov - .653
Mason - .650
Reimer - .650
Smith - .644
Clemmensen - .634
Bryzgalov - .629
Edit: note that 13/21 = .619, so Reimer is actually underperforming his career average in shootouts this season.
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BertCorbeau
F*ck cancer - RIP Fugu and Buffaloed
Heading into last weekend, 5 games between last Saturday and this upcoming Saturday, I figured that games against Carolina and Florida were must wins in ROW, and if they could pick up 1 win in ROW between the two Boston games and the Ottawa game, with a OT/SO loss, they'd be in really good shape for next week's 4 day break
By no means is everything ideal right now .. Gotta find a way to find tomorrow, and MUST beat Carolina Thursday
Gardiner and Phaneuf were both weak on that goal, but I'd say Phaneuf was WAY more at fault. It was very apparent that Hamilton was going to get to the puck first, but that Gardiner wasn't going to just let him walk out front. Phaneuf's job there is to look around, identify the most dangerous player, and there was nobody even close to being in scoring position except Bergeron. He had tonnes of time to recognize the situation that was developing, but instead of being aware of his surroundings and getting close to Bergeron, he's needlessly puck watching while defending NOBODY, and is COMPLETELY OBLIVIOUS of everything else going on around him.
Again, I'm happy going to the shootout in this game, and super psyched in general about getting 3 of 4 points against Boston. But if people really want to focus on that play, I don't see how Phaneuf isn't the main player to blame. Good dmen defend well by being aware of their surroundings, Phaneuf is insanely oblivious here.
Again, I'm happy going to the shootout in this game, and super psyched in general about getting 3 of 4 points against Boston. But if people really want to focus on that play, I don't see how Phaneuf isn't the main player to blame. Good dmen defend well by being aware of their surroundings, Phaneuf is insanely oblivious here.
stakesishigh
how swede it is
Overall, it's hard to be upset with 3 out of 4 possibly points against the Boston Bruins in two games in a row, especially considering our recent history.
HockeyThoughts
Delivering The Truth
Dude, he got beat and outmuscled along the boards. Once it got in front of the net, Dion Phaneuf totally misread the play and didn't tie up his man because he thought there was a man behind him on a 2 on 1.
Both players messed up defensively and should bare an equal amount of blame.
Now move along.
BertCorbeau
F*ck cancer - RIP Fugu and Buffaloed
This..
Gardiner took a bad angle to the boards which allowed Hamilton out-muscling him
Phaneuf didn't pick up his man right away and hesitated, maybe because he didn't want to screen Reimer and give him the shot
Reimer had the angle right, he just didn't tighten up and let a bit of a softy in
**** happens, move along
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