Confirmed with Link: Shayne Gostisbehere to Carolina for a 2026 3rd

[Nikishin Go Boom]

If we made another trade and moved out Stastny/Stepan/Coghlan (or send down Cogs)… what’s the maximum cap we could take on?

2.606 million plus whatever their hit is

 

[Borsig]

Lol this is bad

 

[Svechhammer]

Offensive numbers are very good, but man it looks like he's an absolute train wreck in the defensive zone. Cannot clear the puck and gets dog walked often. Oh, and he's one of the least physical defensemen in the NHL, so don't expect much fight along the boards.

But at least he is good in the offensive zone?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Offensive numbers are very good, but man it looks like he's an absolute train wreck in the defensive zone. Cannot clear the puck and gets dog walked often. Oh, and he's one of the least physical defensemen in the NHL, so don't expect much fight along the boards.

But at least he is good in the offensive zone?

We get to spend more time on the PP with him. Thats a plus, right?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I think it's fair to note that Ghost was playing on a top pairing in AZ with 22 min. TOI (18min ES toi) per game. He's certainly not great defensively, but he won't need to play the same role in Carolina.

DeAngelo came with reports of being bad defensively as well when we got him.

 

[Borsig]

Lol. You guys bitch about TDA but ghost is worse in his own end, and moves the puck worse. Dude has a 4.5m cap hit and is worse than TDA.

God I hope they don't try and sign him after this year.

 

[DaveG]

I think it's fair to note that Ghost was playing on a top pairing in AZ with 22 min. TOI (18min ES toi) per game. He's certainly not great defensively, but he won't need to play the same role in Carolina.

DeAngelo came with reports of being bad defensively as well when we got him.

That's one of the reasons that I was OK with bringing him in. Yeah, not a #1, never has been despite some solid offensive numbers. What he can be is a mismatch on the 3rd pair as a 2nd pairing guy that can also be a solid QB for PP2.

 

[Svechhammer]

I think it's fair to note that Ghost was playing on a top pairing in AZ with 22 min. TOI (18min ES toi) per game. He's certainly not great defensively, but he won't need to play the same role in Carolina.

DeAngelo came with reports of being bad defensively as well when we got him.

I mean he wasn't exactly good defensively for us, just was paired with Slavin, and that masked a hell of a lot.

Gost ain't taking Burns' spot, so that's a problem.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Lol. You guys bitch about TDA but ghost is worse in his own end, and moves the puck worse. Dude has a 4.5m cap hit and is worse than TDA.

1) Some bitched about TDA when he was first signed, but very few bitched about his on ice play in Carolina. In fact, most were complimentary.
2) TDA hasn't been any better in his own end before he got to Carolina, or after he left.

God I hope they don't try and sign him after this year.

agree

 

[Borsig]

Wait until they pair him with Chatfield, and they get utterly owned. Lol.

It will be way worse than Chatfield Coghlan.

This was a really dumb shit move. But that's what happens when you sit on your hands, or get out bid, or screwed over by other teams.

We needed a scoring forward. We got a cool meathead and a worse tda. Brilliant lol

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I mean he wasn't exactly good defensively for us, just was paired with Slavin, and that masked a hell of a lot.

Gost ain't taking Burns' spot, so that's a problem.

True, but Gost is going to get sheltered minutes against weaker competition on the 3rd pairing so he's not going to face the same level of competition that Slavin does. He's a depth 6/7 guy on the canes.

I think it's a 'meh' move overall.

 

[Borsig]

Dude. The 3rd pair will get wrecked against the likes of NJ, NYR or BOS with him on it.

 

[Derailed75]

Friday somewhere near Tempe, in Mullet arena. Jim Ross says Baw Gawd its Ghost's music and this plays.

https://m.youtube.com/results?search_query=ghost+little+sunshine&sp=mAEA

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Dude. The 3rd pair will get wrecked against the likes of NJ, NYR or BOS with him on it.

Then you play Chatfield and DeHann. I've said I don't think this is much of a move and would prefer something else, just don't think it's the disaster some do.

 

[Borsig]

Then you play Chatfield and DeHann. I've said I don't think this is much of a move and would prefer something else, just don't think it's the disaster some do.

Exactly when do you dress ghost? In the regular season?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Exactly when do you dress ghost? In the regular season?

Dress him at home in the playoffs when you can dictate matchups.
Dress him when you need an offensive spark.
Dress him if the PP is struggling.
etc..
I'm sure there are other options.

 

[MadeUpName]

Exactly when do you dress ghost? In the regular season?

You dress him if De Haan goes down or if the team is down 1-3 in a series and needs offensive pop

He is insurance - not a solution to a major problem

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

Dude. The 3rd pair will get wrecked against the likes of NJ, NYR or BOS with him on it.

Cmon man. He's replacing Calvin DeHaan. You're acting like he's taking over Slavin's spot. The hand-wringing over this CHEAP acquisition is ridiculous.

 

[Joe McGrath]

The silver lining...next trade deadline, none of the top contenders are going to have any pick/prospects left to acquire anyone.

I mean you have a sarcasm thing there but it’s 100% true. The Canes are going to have more firepower pick/prospect wise than any team that’s actually contending both this offseason and next deadline.

 

[Borsig]

Cmon man. He's replacing Calvin DeHaan. You're acting like he's taking over Slavin's spot. The hand-wringing over this CHEAP acquisition is ridiculous.

He sucks. It's a waste of 4.5m of cap

 

[Joe McGrath]

He sucks. It's a waste of 4.5m of cap

Basically the same defensive metrics as TDA maybe slightly better. Sucks. Waste of cap space. What the actual f***.

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

He sucks. It's a waste of 4.5m of cap

I disagree but you win man. Until you see how much better our PP2 unit is with him. Then I'll be circling back to this conversation.

 

[Striiker]

Offensive numbers are very good, but man it looks like he's an absolute train wreck in the defensive zone. Cannot clear the puck and gets dog walked often. Oh, and he's one of the least physical defensemen in the NHL, so don't expect much fight along the boards.

But at least he is good in the offensive zone?

Nope.

Not a trainwreck at all and moving the puck is one of the things he does best.

As far as physicality goes, he’s not soft or scared of hitting, it’s just that it’s not his focus. He’s not the idiot who’s going to chase a hit and end up out of position. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen him prevent a zone entry because instead of going for the hit he’d step up to intercept the pass or use his stick to knock the puck away.

I don’t know how you felt about DeAngelo but Ghost is better in every way.

 

[Borsig]

Nope.

Not a trainwreck at all and moving the puck is one of the things he does best.

As far as physicality goes, he’s not soft or scared of hitting, it’s just that it’s not his focus. He’s not the idiot who’s going to chase a hit and end up out of position. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen him prevent a zone entry because instead of going for the hit he’d step up to intercept the pass or use his stick to knock the puck away.

I don’t know how you felt about DeAngelo but Ghost is better in every way.

I liked tda, but from what I've seen of ghost, tda was a better passer.

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

I liked tda, but from what I've seen of ghost, tda was a better passer.

Don't walk back your trashing of him dude. Ghost is the f***ing worst defender in the league. "He sucks" were your exact words.