News Article: Shane Pinto suspended 41 games for violating gambling rules

[WORLDSTARHIPHOP]

 

[RickyLafleur]

 

[Tuna99]

NHL games have gambling ads every minute spondered bY the biggest namesmin the game and pop culture and Pinto gets suspended for not betting on hockey.

perfect

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Did anyone know this must sign by Dec 1 did not apply to 10.2c RFAs?

It seems from any comments on signing Pinto .. it had to be done by Dec 1. Cap Friendly does not say except for 10.2c RFAs ; I don't recall anyone clearing that up and usually one thing like to do on here is correct you if you are wrong.

 

[KingAlfie11]

With so many calling for changes behind the bench & with the GM new ownership can't be immune to the noise in this city. I'm not saying it is right or should be done, I'm thinking it's a situation that may push them to do something. The Formenton situation still isn't cleared up & now we have Pinto & then there was the cap situation. Sooner or later they could just say let's wipe our hands clean of the past & start anew whether that is right or wrong, it's looking forward. A new story may take people's minds off the old story is all I'm saying & change the subject.

I think it's time for Dorion and Smith to go. This franchise needs a new direction and I don't think Dorion and Smith are the ones you can lead this franchise to the next level.

 

[Relapsing]

There's a cold irony in a betting ad showing up on an athletic article about how a player got suspended for gambling related whatever.

That irony gets a little colder when LeBrun preaches how young people need to be careful about gambling... right after which he plainly states he still supports sports gambling. Because MONEY.

What I think I find most surprising about all of this isn't that Pinto got suspended - the NHL has long had rules about gambling. It's the heavy handed feeling of it all with this being the first suspension.

Oh... and the whole part about the NHL giving out lighter suspensions on, well.. pretty much anything.

Christ - Raffi f***ing Torres got 41 games for his hit on Silfverberg in 2015.

What. The. f***. Is. Wrong. With. This. League.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Good article by Pierre LeBrun here

 

[Samboni]

Wouldn't the league have reviewed and approved any trade for terms?

You would think that it wouldn’t take this long to figure it out. Should be a cutn’ dried matter. I was shocked to see Martian bring this up and would be equally surprised if there was any truth to the matter.

 

[Alex1234]

He's gonna need a good 2 weeks at least to get back to NHL form.
Players are running full gas in February

 

[Six Assets]

Gambling is a cancer to society

This sucks for pinto but I’m sure he’ll learn and will benefit long term

 

[Relapsing]

Good article by Pierre LeBrun here

Politely disagreeing.

E: I forgot about all the times LeBrun reported on the status of Pinto's contract negotiations. Of course he wasn't the only one

I have little patience for someone talking out of both sides of their mouth. LeBrun is both worried about, yet also explicitly endorses, sports betting.

Additional revenue for the NHL, NHLPA, and Teams trumps addiction and heavy handed suspensions, I guess. As with most things, money talks, and LeBrun toed the company lines... The Athletic and TSN are both rolling in that sports betting ad money, just like everyone else.

We now live in a world where legalized online sports gambling surrounds us 24/7. The league, its teams and the NHLPA benefit from it financially, as do sports television networks on both sides of the border. And yes, full disclosure, I should point out that I also work for TSN, which is among the beneficiaries and has a partnership with FanDuel. And further full disclosure, I obviously also work for The Athletic, which has a partnership with BetMGM and publishes a large amount of content on sports gambling.

And don’t get me wrong, the networks and content providers have a right to make money off gambling. It’s legal, after all.

But I think this Pinto suspension serves as an opportunity to ask more important questions. Because I truly believe that people, especially in his age group, are vulnerable to the allure of online sports gambling. I’ve seen it with my own eyes with people in their 20s.

This whole situation has left a really sour taste in my mouth. A league full of 20-something millionaires with money to burn, surrounded by betting information. It's recipe for more of this. And apparently this, in the eyes of the NHL, is more egregious than almost every other suspension that can or has been levied against on-ice play.

 

[2CHAINZ]

There's a cold irony in a betting ad showing up on an athletic article about how a player got suspended for gambling related whatever.

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That irony gets a little colder when LeBrun preaches how young people need to be careful about gambling... right after which he plainly states he still supports sports gambling. Because MONEY.

What I think I find most surprising about all of this isn't that Pinto got suspended - the NHL has long had rules about gambling. It's the heavy handed feeling of it all with this being the first suspension.

Oh... and the whole part about the NHL giving out lighter suspensions on, well.. pretty much anything.

Christ - Raffi f***ing Torres got 41 games for his hit on Silfverberg in 2015.

What. The. f***. Is. Wrong. With. This. League.

I think the new "legalization" of gambling in certain states and provinces probably forces any league to hand out very big suspensions to players caught up in gambling activities.

I still don't know what Pinto did but I keep reading he gave information to someone who bet. Now if Pinto gave early injury info or told someone to bet against his team before lines were adjusted and profited off it, Pinto should be in jail for insider trading, not a 41-game suspension.

 

[jellybeans]

Peter Chirelli / Claude Julien rumoured for a while. Talks about moving to town and buying a house, being seen at CTC, etc. Who knows if any of it's true.

What a massive mistake that would be.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Gambling is a cancer to society

This sucks for pinto but I’m sure he’ll learn and will benefit long term

Speak for yourself . It’s been an amazing side hustle for me

 

[6stringmofo]

What are you talking about? Elected officials do insider trading openly and regularly. Government officials don't adhere on a daily basis and keep their jobs.

Ever spend any time in the military?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Guess we know why Bruce’s intermission msg last game or 2 was a bit vague.

 

[aragorn]

Guess we know why Bruce’s intermission msg last game or 2 was a bit vague.

Insider information

 

[2CHAINZ]

Ever spend any time in the military?

No why?

 

[WORLDSTARHIPHOP]

Ever spend any time in the military?

How's Op Honor doing?

The military is probably the last organization you want to refer to when mentioning "abide by a code of conduct"

 

[LiseL]

Of course they still wanted to sign him. They likely knew about the investigation but didn’t know for sure what the punishment would be. Worst case they still needed him signed so the suspension could start asap and he could still play in the second half of the season.

Makes a lot more sense why the offer would be a modest raise in a one year deal, and why the team was very slow/hesitant/not willing to move out a player to fit him in.

They pulled the offers because he has absolutely no leverage now and can’t even start his suspension until he has a contract. QO it is.

The suspension is retroactive because he is not a RFA2 so his suspension will end on January 20, 2024. He is eligible to play on Jan 21, 2024 if he has signed a contract before then. This info was posted earlier from a tweet by Lebrun. Also, no cap hit during his suspension. The player doesn't receive any pay when suspended so I would think his cap hit wouldn't double when he does return. They would only owe him 50% of the value of the contract for 2023-24. This isn't like the Nylander situation, he voluntarily sat out. It seems Ottawa being in cap trouble is not a factor for how this works.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

A friend tells me Brent Wallace has made some... allegations, about what Pinto did.

I don't really consider Wallace to be a great source but the reason I don't does not lead me to believe he'd be inclined to want to smear Pinto.

And this friend of mine seems to get duped by false information online a bit too often for me to trust him and I don't want to go check.

 

[5ive4Fighting]

A friend tells me Brent Wallace has made some... allegations, about what Pinto did.

I don't really consider Wallace to be a great source but the reason I don't does not lead me to believe he'd be inclined to want to smear Pinto.

And this friend of mine seems to get duped by false information online a bit too often for me to trust him and I don't want to go check.

On the show, guest Dave Poulin said it was about "...being the point man for your buddies is essentially what it is". Sounded like the implication was that Pinto was making bets on behalf of other people. None of the hosts pushed for more. Looked like nobody wanted to look like they weren't in on the info that Dave appeared to have.

Starts about 9:20:

 

[Icelevel]

Dean brown going on and on about how people were recklessly speculating today and it was so funny to him and he obviously stays away from that and then one second later he goes on and on about what could have potentially happened.

Wow this guy is unbelievable. The pregame shows are so good except when Dean brown is on when they suddenly become the absolute worst thing you can expose your ears to.

 

[Relapsing]

I think the new "legalization" of gambling in certain states and provinces probably forces any league to hand out very big suspensions to players caught up in gambling activities.

I still don't know what Pinto did but I keep reading he gave information to someone who bet. Now if Pinto gave early injury info or told someone to bet against his team before lines were adjusted and profited off it, Pinto should be in jail for insider trading, not a 41-game suspension.

If we're going to go down that road, then there's a number of current and former players in the league that should have been brought up on assault charges.

If any one of us took a bat to someone's head, we'd be charged. Go after a guy with a stick in the NHL and you don't play for a few weeks. Go after a guy and break his neck? Get suspended 33 games and get reinstated a year later by good old Gary.

On the show, guest Dave Poulin said it was about "...being the point man for your buddies is essentially what it is". Sounded like the implication was that Pinto was making bets on behalf of other people. None of the hosts pushed for more. Looked like nobody wanted to look like they weren't in on the info that Dave appeared to have.

Starts about 9:20:

How much do you think they'll push or say in a show sponsored by a betting company?

 

[2CHAINZ]

If we're going to go down that road, then there's a number of current and former players in the league that should have been brought up on assault charges.

If any one of us took a bat to someone's head, we'd be charged. Go after a guy with a stick in the NHL and you don't play for a few weeks. Go after a guy and break his neck? Get suspended 33 games and get reinstated a year later by good old Gary.

I think you missed the point. I am not disagreeing with you that 41 games is absurd. I am just stating that this new "legalization" of gambling runs deep. I'm sure if leagues, players, sites, or people violate any of the rules they will face harsh punishments because the government is involved now as well. Leagues can't have players betting or providing betting information because they don't want to lose the cash cow of gambling revenues. There are new KYC restrictions in place and a lot of oversight now in these gambling markets which means anyone cheating will be punished much harsher than before when it was "unregulated"