Player Discussion Shane Pinto (C) - PART 2

[SpezDispenser]

Has looked overwhelmed when playing 2nd line, but much better when slotted on the 3rd line.

Just treading water when taking on tough matchups, but can push the pace when playing on the 3rd line.

Looks a bit worn out at this point of the season. Excited to see him come back refreshed for next season.

He'll benefit from this big time next year.

 

[coladin]

Yea, I don't see that at all, DBC is getting tons of chances every game & whether he is holding the stick too tight or just bad luck or whatever it is it's not anyone elses fault. These things happen with goal scorers sometimes they run hot & cold, sometimes they have a great season & then a crappy one, all kinds of reasons.

I think once this contract thing is over he will be a good player for this team & will be needed in the top 9 once Giroux hangs them up. We have 5 guys who put up more than 50 pts this season which is very rare & Norris is another guy who has 50 pt potential. Now if we can get Chabot back on track & Chychrun to start lighting it up & Sanderson to continue to improve they could turn into a very high scoring team, their PP is already one of the best in the league. This team has a ton of potential with a few more good players coming.

For sure , we are on the same page. He is missing for whatever reason: what I am saying is people are saying if DBC was with Norris e would have more goals. Or with Stutzle. What I’m saying is his misses are his and he is to blame.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

For sure , we are on the same page. He is missing for whatever reason: what I am saying is people are saying if DBC was with Norris e would have more goals. Or with Stutzle. What I’m saying is his misses are his and he is to blame.

Yeah even playing pinto and Batherson the guy has missed grade A chances.

 

[devbouz12]

For sure , we are on the same page. He is missing for whatever reason: what I am saying is people are saying if DBC was with Norris e would have more goals. Or with Stutzle. What I’m saying is his misses are his and he is to blame.

You seem to rip on DBC at every turn. It's a Pinto thread. We get it, you hate Cat

 

[coladin]

You seem to rip on DBC at every turn. It's a Pinto thread. We get it, you hate Cat

The player was brought up in this thread, so yeah, combatting the sentiment that is is Pinto's fault that DBC suddenly can't shoot anymore.

Don't hate anyone, but he has to score. That is what he is paid to do, and he is not doing it

 

[Burrowsaurus]

The player was brought up in this thread, so yeah, combatting the sentiment that is is Pinto's fault that DBC suddenly can't shoot anymore.

Don't hate anyone, but he has to score. That is what he is paid to do, and he is not doing it

I don’t blame dbc shooting % on anyone but himself. I do think at 5v5 pinto and Batherson do not exactly help debrincat though. Both are defensively no good right now.

 

[devbouz12]

The player was brought up in this thread, so yeah, combatting the sentiment that is is Pinto's fault that DBC suddenly can't shoot anymore.

Don't hate anyone, but he has to score. That is what he is paid to do, and he is not doing it

I don't think his subpar performance is an indictment on the player's abilities. He's having a down year, but acting like he's used goods and wanting to shoot him to the moon seems very reactionary.

 

[coladin]

I don't think his subpar performance is an indictment on the player's abilities. He's having a down year, but acting like he's used goods and wanting to shoot him to the moon seems very reactionary.

Where did I say that?

I haven't yet said he should be traded, and still think that he can bounce back. But he is a 7.5M player on this team, at best. He has lost his game because of the pressure of this market, which may tell him he needs to play in a non-hockey market or a hockey market that is on page 4, not thr front page.

 

[devbouz12]

Where did I say that?

I haven't yet said he should be traded, and still think that he can bounce back. But he is a 7.5M player on this team, at best. He has lost his game because of the pressure of this market, which may tell him he needs to play in a non-hockey market or a hockey market that is on page 4, not thr front page.

My bad. A bit of inference based on your previous posts I read about him.

No argument on that AAV though. I'd say that's his worth. Would love to give him another shot here and see if he bounces back.

Anywho, back to Pinto!

 

[coladin]

My bad. A bit of inference based on your previous posts I read about him.

No argument on that AAV though. I'd say that's his worth. Would love to give him another shot here and see if he bounces back.

Anywho, back to Pinto!

I like Pinto a lot, and he looks more comfortable on the 3rd line. Poor kid has had a lot on his plate, but will be better for it. Someone said he looks miserable? Well, I can tell you that I know for a fact that he and all the young core are having the times of their lives. My son hangs with him and the others, same age, and they are extremely happy, and a tight group.

The other night, an odd couple of Josh Norris and Anton Forsberg were at Lieutenant's Pump. That is outstanding that Josh got a family out on Elgin Street!

 

[devbouz12]

I like Pinto a lot, and he looks more comfortable on the 3rd line. Poor kid has had a lot on his plate, but will be better for it. Someone said he looks miserable? Well, I can tell you that I know for a fact that he and all the young core are having the times of their lives. My son hangs with him and the others, same age, and they are extremely happy, and a tight group.

The other night, an odd couple of Josh Norris and Anton Forsberg were at Lieutenant's Pump. That is outstanding that Josh got a family out on Elgin Street!

That's so heartwarming! I really love how the team has bonded over the last year. Safe to say, the off-ice depravities are long gone. Seemed like it was never gonna happen 4 years ago.

 

[aragorn]

Pinto is two goals behind the rookie goal scoring leader & he along with Sanderson should both be in the running for the Calder Trophy for rookie of the yr. There are also a few other young guys in the running so anyone who thinks he is disappointing look at the other rookies, these two on Ott are doing great.

 

[Micklebot]

Pinto is two goals behind the rookie goal scoring leader & he along with Sanderson should both be in the running for the Calder Trophy for rookie of the yr. There are also a few other young guys in the running so anyone who thinks he is disappointing look at the other rookies, these two on Ott are doing great.

How many people can realistically be in the running for the Calder?

For D, Pinto and Powers are probably neck and neck, playing 21+ mins a night while generating offense and playing a sound defensive game will get you there. I can't see Powers not being in the conversation and Sanderson has been right there with him in terms of performance

Beniers is the obvious frontrunner, so that's three guys already.

But then you have MacTavish and Maccelli outproducing the rest of the field, and Whyatt Johnston leading in goals while also outproducing Pinto, and I just don't see how Pinto gets more than a handful of votes at best. There's 6 guys that have better narratives going for them, which two do you put him ahead of to even get a 5th place vote?

 

[aragorn]

How many people can realistically be in the running for the Calder?

For D, Pinto and Powers are probably neck and neck, playing 21+ mins a night while generating offense and playing a sound defensive game will get you there. I can't see Powers not being in the conversation and Sanderson has been right there with him in terms of performance

Beniers is the obvious frontrunner, so that's three guys already.

But then you have MacTavish and Maccelli outproducing the rest of the field, and Whyatt Johnston leading in goals while also outproducing Pinto, and I just don't see how Pinto gets more than a handful of votes at best. There's 6 guys that have better narratives going for them, which two do you put him ahead of to even get a 5th place vote?

They name 3 for the award show so it will be interesting how this ends up, Wyatt Johnson has 20 goals leading all rookies, with Berniers with 19 goals & Pinto with 18 goals. However, Berniers leads all rookies in points with 49, McTavish is 2nd & Macelli 3rd & Pinto isn't catching them. Powers & Sanderson are tied with 28 pts each on defence. My guess is Berniers wins the Calder award with McTavish 2nd & one of Powers or Sanderson 3rd.

Buffalo have three rookies in the top 15 which shows you how well that franchise is doing & Ottawa has two. You're right, Pinto is in tough & if I had to pick between Pinto & Sanderson right now I think we would have to go with Sanderson who has been so good this yr, pts aside. The ranking is probably based on a combination of pts, goals, overall play, importance to team, minutes & probably a number of other things.

That 2020 draft with Stutzle, Sanderson, Greig, Jarventie, Kleven, Sokolov, Merilainen, Engstrand, Daoust & Reinhardt could be the best draft ever. At this point only Engstrand seems to be the only guy who hasn't played for either Ottawa or Belleville at this point, that's assuming that Kleven & Merilainen will sign with Ottawa soon. That's pretty incredible for a GM & scouting staff who are so maligned on here.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Bump

Closing the suspension thread

 

[Ice-Tray]

Boom, get this boy coached up!

 

[scout20]

Friedman (about Pinto) on 32T: “I would expect he’s going to sign his qualifying offer…however I have heard unconfirmed that since the GM change, they have talked about a longer term deal”Also said they’ve identified him as part of the “core”

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Friedman (about Pinto) on 32T: “I would expect he’s going to sign his qualifying offer…however I have heard unconfirmed that since the GM change, they have talked about a longer term deal”Also said they’ve identified him as part of the “core”

They could sign him to his QO for this season, and then sign a separate long-term extension. Otherwise, it might be difficult to fit in his cap on year 1 of a long-term extension.

A mid-term extension likely comes in at 3M-4M.

Of course, they could always go 7-8 years if they really like the player. In which case, I don't think he gets 8 like everybody else. The only reason to go that long is if he is willing to lock himself in at a really favourable cap hit, like 5M-6M.

 

[scout20]

Pinto Interview!
https://x.com/SensCentral/status/1745871333123043489?s=20

 

[armani]

Pinto Interview!
https://x.com/SensCentral/status/1745871333123043489?s=20

Welcome back Pinto, we missed you.

Love his upbeat attitude, you can see genuine appreciation in his voice and countenance. He is built for Jacques Martin type hockey, but he has missed half a season. Still a key add at a crucial phase of transformation of the team.

 

[Icelevel]

Love this guy.
“My body feels unreal” !!!
Look out!

 

[Ice-Tray]

Love this guy.
“My body feels unreal” !!!
Look out!

Sounds like a pretty smart young man who learned a hard lesson and is ready to move on.

Love how positive he is, and how humble he is towards the fans, ownership, management, and his fellow players. Nice little bit of positivity injected in what has been a slog for everyone.

Welcome back pints!

 

[Tuna99]

Stud

 

[dumbdick]

Pinto is distractingly handsome.