joestevens29
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I'm so confused. I thought CBA says you can bet on non-NHL games, and the NHL said it wasn't on NHL games.
So why the suspension?
So why the suspension?
Shane Pinto being suspended 41 games for sports gambling
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MMC
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Gee, I wonder why he was the only unsigned RFA. Couldn't possibly be because he was under investigation by the league for violating its gambling policy or anything...
I don't have a problem with the league suspending for betting on games...
... But it's absolutely hilarious that this gets 41 games while guys slewfooting each other or cross-checking each other in the back of the head often doesn't draw a suspension at all.
Or to compare it to suspensions for off-ice behavior... Shane Pinto gets the same punishment for gambling that Slava Voynov got for choking his wife and putting her face through a TV.
... But it's absolutely hilarious that this gets 41 games while guys slewfooting each other or cross-checking each other in the back of the head often doesn't draw a suspension at all.
Or to compare it to suspensions for off-ice behavior... Shane Pinto gets the same punishment for gambling that Slava Voynov got for choking his wife and putting her face through a TV.
I wonder how this didn't come out sooner then? All these supposedly high level insiders and we didn't hear a peep about it
It's simple really. Dirty play only affects players safety, which the NHL doesn't really care about. But players gambling can hurt the sports books, who provide the NHL an obscene amount of money.
joestevens29
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It's been stated many times before, insiders will never go out and start talking about stuff like this. If they are wrong they are in big trouble.
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My theory is the NHL is playing word games with "No evidence Pinto bet on NHL games" and they have evidence a proxy bettor did.
What a sick dude, where does he even get the idea to gamble? He's sitting at home watching an NHL game, normal ads for going to church or adopting puppies are running and this absolute degenerate is getting his Pete Rose on gambling it up. #LifetimeBanForGamblers
ToDavid
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We don't know the details here and so don't know if the punishment is fitting or not but this is not a very good metaphor. Arbitrary and unreasonably onerous employment rules face legal challenges all the time.
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The NHL is making $$ from the gambling sites and having this info out in public before it was concluded would pose a risk to that cash cow.
MMC
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Yet none of the league, the player, or the union think there was anything unreasonable about this...
All they'd have to say is "Pinto isn't actually in a contract dispute, there's potentially something bigger behind the scenes" and leave it at that. They do that shit all the time
agent082
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He should have just end someones career and suffer 0 to 20 games.
Speaking of which, I found it hilarious that the PA was appealing Andersson's suspension.
Like, yeah. You represent the players... Which includes the guy he attempted to injure.
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If what I think happened, its pretty bad and 41 games may be light.
pure speculation but looking at all the statements and the severity of the suspension I am thinking Pinto was giving inside info to a 3rd party to make bets on or against the Sens on a regular basis.
joestevens29
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That's kind of a no no as well. Stirring the pot up isn't a good idea and again if nothing comes of it you are in big trouble.
That and not everything a player says or does people are going to find out about it. I don't think the insiders are phoning betting companies on a daily basis asking for intel. And I highly doubt the league was letting this slip until it was dealt with.
Captain97
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It's definitely about the non-public information, for the same reason back when I worked in a capital markets job every stock trade I made had to be cleared ahead of time and reported to regulators.
Even though I worked in Foreign Exchange products (basically risk management for company's against currency exhange fluctuations) I had access to non-public info even if it was from a chat in the lunchroom.
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Do the members of Congress know about this?
*Officially ending any political posts*
But yeah, in the NHL that makes total sense. NFL, NCAA, MLB...are the insider networks THAT complex?
dirtydanglez
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not a fan of that suspension unless there is evidence of him betting on hockey or trading insider information.
The difference is though, at your job insider info is actually illegal.
There's nothing illegal about insider betting, the bookies just really don't like it, and will try to ban you for it if you really pull one over on em.
Now obviously the NHL can make up their own rules to please the bookies.
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so say you let slip of an upcoming currency fluctuation and a friend hit the exchange and made some money, Would you be criminally liable or just in trouble at the company? Or would you have had to see some of that $$ to be criminally liable?
