Shane Pinto being suspended 41 games for sports gambling

[Dirty Dog]

I don’t really understand why player can’t bet on other leagues

What is the thought process?

 

[BoneDocUK]

The NHL is right to suspend him.

But the NHL, and other leagues, should absolutely be pilloried for getting themselves so much in bed with sports gambling. Sports advertising has gotten so degenerately synonymous with sportsbooks that loads of times I don't feel comfortable letting my kid watch.

Don't rely your revenue streams on something so clearly egregious that you obviously can't allow your personnel to be involved with.

Edit: and if he was suspended for betting on other sports, then I retract my first part of my post. If that degeneracy is legal and doesn't impact your sport, don't punish a guy for using the services of your corporate partner.

Agree.

I'm from the UK, where after decades of horrendous fallout from the rise of electronic gambling and sports betting there have been recent attempts to try to reign some of it in.

I can't stand the betting ads, the incessant babble about books and parlays and fair odds, the sponsorship and CYA riders about betting responsibly, which no one in the industry wants, the branding, the shills.

If Canada is like the UK, there will be a long trail of bankruptcies, GV and family breakdown, depression and worse down the pike and a few token gestures from the industry while the provinces and feds pay the costs.

I have zero stake in how Shane Pinto lives or plays hockey, but this reads like a classic "example" suspension. The league should take a long hard look at its own enmeshment -- but it won't.

 

[Divine]

Now, he'll get a small one. Under a mil - and he'll like it.

Why would he take that? At that point he already missed half the season. A lower contract means a lower qualifying offer which would mean he's going through the same circus again next year.

Also, his new cap hit will be prorated - so it'll be much higher than the actual cap hit.

 

[Chainshot]

Does this clear his way to play for Tocchett?

 

[Moose Head]

Not the Sen I expected to be suspended long term for an off ice incident.

 

[izlez]

If this is the travesty everyone is making it out to be, I'm sure Shane Pinto will be releasing a detailed explanation of events any second now to clear his name,

annnnny second now

 

[red devil]

 

[swiftwin]

His cap hit will be even higher on game 42. It's prorated.

Sens can accumulate cap space in the mean time.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Why would he take that? At that point he already missed half the season.

Also, his new cap hit will be prorated - so it'll be much higher than the actual cap hit.

Because he needs to play - badly. He needs to get in there and put this behind him and reneg in the summer. If anyone ever needed to play - even for free - it's Pinto.

 

[Divine]

Sens can accumulate cap space in the mean time.

Well they better start moving someone soon then because their 42K cap space isn't amounting to much.

 

[Richard88]

Well that's one way to strong-arm a player not bending over to your contract demands...

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I don't get why he's suspended if it has nothing to do with NHL games then. Was it through illegal means?

 

[tarheelhockey]

The NHL is right to suspend him.

But the NHL, and other leagues, should absolutely be pilloried for getting themselves so much in bed with sports gambling. Sports advertising has gotten so degenerately synonymous with sportsbooks that loads of times I don't feel comfortable letting my kid watch.

Don't rely your revenue streams on something so clearly egregious that you obviously can't allow your personnel to be involved with.

Edit: and if he was suspended for betting on other sports, then I retract my first part of my post. If that degeneracy is legal and doesn't impact your sport, don't punish a guy for using the services of your corporate partner.

Agree 100%.

 

[swiftwin]

Well they better start moving someone soon then because their 42K cap space isn't amounting to much.

JBD will get sent down as soon as Zub is back.

 

[izlez]

If this is the travesty everyone is making it out to be, I'm sure Shane Pinto will be releasing a detailed explanation of events any second now to clear his name,

annnnny second now

RIGHT ON TIME!

Seems to me like Pinto probably didn't place a single $5 bet on a Manchester United game and he's perfectly content with accepting the punishment and keeping the details quiet.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

is this going to be one of those guy places bet on college football game at team facility type of thing? Honestly I don’t care as long as someone isn’t betting against their own team and/or throwing games

 

[Naych_PHX]

Look, I have no objection personally to gambling. If you like it, fine. I'm not a gambler. But if you're gonna tip your toe into the gambling business and then turn around and bust people for doing exactly what you're advertising. Then don't promote gambling.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Can't count this as an injury excuse Sens fans

 

[swiftwin]

ok this makes no sense on soo many fronts.
-He didn't bet on NHL games
-a player not under contract will have games counted towards a suspension.

My guess is to prevent cap circumvention.

Players getting suspended for off-ice issues don't count towards the cap. The Sens could have signed him right now, have him serve the suspension with no cap hit, and have him back in the 2nd half of the season with a much lower cap hit.

 

[Canadian Game]

Just thinking outside the box a bit. The NHL’s announcement said he didn’t bet on NHL games, but it left the door open that it could still be NHL related. I wonder if there’s a possibility he could have bet on who get fired/hired or some other NHL related bet.

Or it could still be hockey related and betting on NCAA, CHL, European leagues, or international hockey. Not sure if those would be against the rules, but those leagues all have NHL prospects.

 

[HBK27]

I think NFL players are allowed to, outside team facilities. Traditionally you couldn't bet at all becuase you might be indebted to a bookie/mobster, who could use that leverage to affect the outcome of games. But now with legitmate businesses hosting online gambling sites I"m not sure.

That's the only thing I can think of...maybe the NHL is worried that players may lose so much money that they might do something shady to work off some of their debt? Yet, they have no problem shoving the latest betting odds down fans' throats every 5 minutes a constantly reminding us that it's never too late to get in on the action??? What other reason is there?

 

[Ciao]

The NHL is right to suspend him.

But the NHL, and other leagues, should absolutely be pilloried for getting themselves so much in bed with sports gambling. Sports advertising has gotten so degenerately synonymous with sportsbooks that loads of times I don't feel comfortable letting my kid watch.

Don't rely your revenue streams on something so clearly egregious that you obviously can't allow your personnel to be involved with.

Edit: and if he was suspended for betting on other sports, then I retract my first part of my post. If that degeneracy is legal and doesn't impact your sport, don't punish a guy for using the services of your corporate partner.

Hey, in the NHL, only the NHL gets to be involved with sports gambling!

Do as they say, not as they do!

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

None of this makes sense. If he didn't bet on NHL games, who the hell cares?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Does anybody have an explanation as to why they can't gamble on other sports? thanks

 

[Michoulicious]

"Shock"-ing "Suspension" "Ford" Pinto.