Post-Game Talk: Sens win Late

[ryerockarola]

I'm going to preface this comment by saying that I like Paul Maurice - he's articulate and thoughtful, and will take a bullet for his players. His character is 100%.

In my mind though if you're playing in a tied game, or with a one goal lead or deficit, you need to be playing to win. Playing to survive to post-regulation is a passive choice, particularly so when hockey these days rewards energy, speed and aggression. We tried to play it safe instead of playing to win, and paid the price.

I don't know if this is by design via Maurice, but if it is it needs to stop immediately. If it isn't, then he needs to get that under control yesterday.

More troubling though is that we are frequently not prepared to play at puck drop, and routinely not motivated to play high tempo hockey. We have some great skaters on this team, and they are often not ready to skate. This is a preparation and motivation issue, which falls squarely on Maurice's shoulders. He either isn't doing enough to get the guys going, or what he is doing isn't working. Either way something needs to change.

Helle is fine. Pionk was expecting Helle to pass the puck to him and in a fluke it popped off his stick and into the corner where neither could play it. Sucks, but not anyone's fault. The bigger issue is that we have the firepower to put up 3-4 goals a night, but we did not do so today because we were uninterested.

The most frustrating part watching today's game was the seemingly overall lack of jump by the Jets. Yes the Sens looked good but the only really sustained pressure was the last 4 minutes of the game and maybe overall the last half of the 3rd period, minus the gaffe in the last few seconds.

Ves showed great hustle on the play that set up the goal, Lewis/Ves I thought had good hustling 4th-line shifts, KFC had a couple individual efforts but overall the team looked a bit flat. If we could bottle the urgency shown in the last half the third and duplicate it from the opening shift of a game serve it up to everyone just before puck drop.

 

[raideralex99]

Missed the game -- did PLD not play today ? did not see him on the hi-lights ?

We jinxed him by saying he never missed one game with Columbus.

 

[JetsFan815]

We also need to give Pionk more of a green light to go ham in the offensive zone, he reminds me of the same chaos Buff use to cause in the offensive zone when he activates.

 

[raideralex99]

I was just looking at the face off stats ... doesn't anyone else find it weird the Jets were 50%?
It seemed like every important faceoff they loss especially during the Sens PP.

 

[Duke749]

I take it I shouldn't listen to Maurice's post game media availability?

Word

 

[libertarian]

Counter (As someone who isn't anti Maurice)
If the Jets played with me as the HC, would they lose all 6 of those games?
If they do not, is some of those wins "on me"

This is a fair point. If Garret9 or I were coaching would the Jets be any better or worst?

I made the point earlier that if you check out every other HF boards team thread you will find more fans hating their head coach then supporting him. I've come to the conclusion that most NHL fan bases hate their head coach no matter how successful they are. I also have come to understand that HF board posters are ALL superior to any NHL coach because they know what is best for their team and all the NHL coaches are clueless. Makes me wonder why NHL teams waste millions of dollars on NHL coaches each year when HFB poster all know they can do a superior job?

 

[Duke749]

yea they need to leave them together and let them work through it. I don’t know why Paul and his coaches over think these things?

How much input does Charlie Huddy have in this? He’s been here ten years. TEN YEARS!

 

[Potential]

yea they need to leave them together and let them work through it. I don’t know why Paul and his coaches over think these things?

I think DeMelo is probably compromised from no sleep due to his newborn, so I'm okay with him playing 2nd or 3rd pairing for now.

Morrissey and Poolman worked well enough.

 

[Halberdier]

Next one please.

 

[HannuJ]

how many boring games in a row has it been?
at least 3.
that's the real problem. today was probably the biggest snoozefest as of late. nothing fun to watch other than a Connor toe drag.
the necessity to make time to watch a jets' game is decreasing weekly.

 

[SUX2BU]

Strange, I've been thinking that Helles been pretty good with the puck this season.

not today ....

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

This was likely bitched about in the GDT but...

Why the hell was Wheeler taking the extra shifts at center?
He doesn't have enough gas for his own shifts never mind someone else's.
Stastny's minutes were really low.
Maybe he could have used those shifts????

If we can't score 4+ goals then we are likely to get torched in games vs Tor / Mtl etc...

The team will have to look very different on Monday or McDavid / Draisaitl will eat us up and steal our lunch money. Wedgies all around

 

[GNP]

We also need to give Pionk more of a green light to go ham in the offensive zone, he reminds me of the same chaos Buff use to cause in the offensive zone when he activates.

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Pionk is looking very impressive this year, and improving all the time. You can see his confidence growing. I think we did really well on that Trouba trade.

Pionk may command quite a lot of $$$ now ???

 

[Mud Turtle]

uh because he’s career.500 coach Maurice whose been at it for a zillion years and still never won anything! That’s why!

We have to stop calling Paul Maurice a .500 coach.
He isn’t! He’s 40 games UNDER 500 for his career. Overtime losses still count as losses.
Never has a coach had so little success and lasted so long in this league.

 

[Flair Hay]

Guess I picked a good one to have to miss.

Everyone is wound up so tight in here. Relax haha.

Saturday afternoon loss in February to a team we had beaten 8 or 9 times in a row. I think we will be okay.

 

[Peggy]

How is it determined that the North is the weakest division?

I think it is. No defense

 

[snowkiddin]

Three times this year we’ve lost right near the end, f*** off

 

[snowkiddin]

One goal against the worst team in the league’s backup goalie. If only we had a guy with a generational shot out there!

 

[Gnova]

Why is everyone trash talking D after this game?
Its not like the Jets lost 6-5.

If anyone needs to be trashed it is the forwards and their lack of offense. Copp was terribad. The rest were no shows.

 

[JetsFan815]

Helle is .921 on the season. He is having another Vezina caliber season.

Listening to maurice talk
About how Ottawa with their horrible backup goalie... is a better team than their record indicates - I’m surprised he didn’t start laughing

I am not saying we shouldn't have won this game and I'm not defending Maurice but Maurice is right Ottawa is definitely better than their record indicates. Have you watched their games? They don't generally look like a team that has won only 3 games. Statistically they are around ~20th in 5 on 5 metrics. The only thing that has been sinking them is their PDO and a horrible sv% by both their goalies which obviously isn't going to last all season.

It's a shame that their sv% regression had to happen against the Jets but don't be surprised if they go on winning a few games. I for one am glad that we got most of our games with them out of the way when they were struggling and their goalies were bad. Their record is most certainly going to improve.

 

[The Big M]

The Leafs lost their game tonight.

Fire their coach!

Not surprised...twice as many posts tonight compared to our
last game. Some people don't bother posting until we lose.

I'm disappointed too. I still think we played hard as Maurice
and Forbert said.

Ottawa played a good game and got a break on the last
goal.

On to the next game.

 

[WolfHouse]

Helle is .921 on the season. He is having another Vezina caliber season.

I am not saying we shouldn't have won this game and I'm not defending Maurice but Maurice is right Ottawa is definitely better than their record indicates. Have you watched their games? They don't generally look like a team that has won only 3 games. Statistically they are around ~20th in 5 on 5 metrics. The only thing that has been sinking them is their PDO and a horrible sv% by both their goalies which obviously isn't going to last all season.

It's a shame that their sv% regression had to happen against the Jets but don't be surprised if they go on winning a few games. I for one am glad that we got most of our games with them out of the way when they were struggling and their goalies were bad. Their record is most certainly going to improve.

Hogberg is the worst goalie in the league... our talent should have more than one goal

every bad team plays hard and almost good enough - that’s why they’re bad. We didn’t need to win 5-1 but to lose like this - from lack of a killer instinct or lack of intensity is not that good

we’ll see Monday - I think we’re .500 against non Ottawa teams...

 

[johnnyonthspot]

People commenting on here, like the world is falling apart ? They only lost by 1 goal, and it was a bit of a fluky goal, to a team that was very desperate, who also have beaten Toronto and Montreal.

It's not like we got blown out here, and we only allowed 2 goals -- not to bad an effort in my mind, so give Ottawa a little credit for their effort. Most of the time, if you only allow 2 goals, you usually win the game -- so not too bad defensively.

If PLD was in the lineup -- we may have won that game as well. All in all, we've pretty much dominated that team, so let's see what we can do against the better teams like Toronto and Montreal.

I do not think the sky is falling. I think this game showed who the Jets are. The Sens played a good game and not sure how many high danger chances they had but it was certainly more than the Jets who were saved by Helly despite the mix up at the end.

 

[jetsforever]

We have to stop calling Paul Maurice a .500 coach.
He isn’t! He’s 40 games UNDER 500 for his career. Overtime losses still count as losses.
Never has a coach had so little success and lasted so long in this league.

He's literally the ALL-TIME leader in losses by a coach.

 

[Section 325]

An observation is that these last second daggers seem to happen a lot in the aviator jerseys.

We have lost two games in the final ten seconds this season and BOTH were in those jerseys. Look back over the years and we have not played well in them and things like this have happened a lot.

Not sure the point I'm making exactly, but...there it is.