Post-Game Talk: Sens win Late

[Adam da bomb]

Wow the excuses are stacking up... never had any chance - ‘except winning the foot race’

that’s why you keep your top line out there with Copp, Scheifele, Ehlers - all of our fastest players on the team... not our aging captain who’s visibly having a hard time keeping up

Instead Connor and Wheeler back check the same way they have all season and we can’t regain control

Yes the excuses do keep coming as ppl keep finding new ways to blame csw. The excuses and attacks. It’s like ppl have personal axes to grind.

 

[tbcwpg]

You haven't noticed the pattern in Spotless's posts yet?

I'm not up to date on all the posters histories but I'll take the L here if I got whooshed.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

You might as well include Perrault in the blame for dumping instead of passing it back to the D and having team maintain control. As Wheeler wasn’t fast enough to retrieve it and then the line did as well as any with line change on play. They never had a chance to keep it in the other teams end except winning the foot race.

Fair enough.

Truth is, we didn't lose that game in the last 10 seconds. We lost it in the first 59:50 when we could score only 1 goal on the worst team in the league playing their really bad backup goalie.

The mistake in the last 10 sec was primarily on Helle, secondarily on the D. Helle had been our best player up to that point.

 

[Duke749]

Little to do with the goal? How about if a different line is out there and the puck is in the other end? They were not involved in that play, but maybe they should have been?

Well what should they have done different exactly since they were such an issue?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Frustrating loss. I actually felt that we played pretty well. Better than the two previous games.

Better than the one previous game at any rate. Wait, what was the score in that game?
Variance is very high in hockey. The 'best' team doesn't always play the best on any given day. The team that plays 'best' on any given day does not always win.

It was a frustrating loss, with the way it happened. I was all primed for an OT win.

Sometimes we need to give the other team some credit too. I think yesterday was one of those.

 

[cbcwpg]

Just finished watching the replay of the game on SN.. It's looks as bad as it did last night. Forbort f***ed up. I think he thought Pionk was going to get to it first so he went to the front of the net and left it.

Oh well. Ottawa deserved the win. If you are going to let shitty teams like Ottawa stay in the game instead of putting them away, you deserve to lose.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Well what should they have done different exactly since they were such an issue?

I'm not saying they were. Playing devil's advocate there a bit. Not saying they were not either. If things had been different, it would have turned out differently, maybe.

I was looking ahead to the OT. Maybe Jets players were too. Particularly Helle.

Bad team, worse goalie, we should not have been tied at 1 with 10 seconds to go.

A series of very late losses. Is it a pattern, or coincidence? If a pattern it looks like coaching to me. If not, then no one is to blame. Just suck it up and go on to the next game.

I am getting tired of the sameness, the predictability of the coaching. But when a team isn't often changing coaches, I guess that is inevitable. We really notice certain things about Paul when they lose. Sometimes those same things win, but we are less inclined to notice.

 

[Jets 31]

Just finished watching the replay of the game on SN.. It's looks as bad as it did last night. Forbort f***ed up. I think he thought Pionk was going to get to it first so he went to the front of the net and left it.

Oh well. Ottawa deserved the win. If you are going to let shitty teams like Ottawa stay in the game instead of putting them away, you deserve to lose.

Love Helly, he's a great goalie but he is horrible playing the puck. I can't count how many times he's gone out of his net and it's cost us a goal or come very close to ending up in our net. Let the defenseman do his job trying to retrieve the puck, if they don't at least he's in his net and set for a shot which he is one of the best, if not the best, in the league at doing.

 

[raideralex99]

Fair enough.

Truth is, we didn't lose that game in the last 10 seconds. We lost it in the first 59:50 when we could score only 1 goal on the worst team in the league playing their really bad backup goalie.

The mistake in the last 10 sec was primarily on Helle, secondarily on the D. Helle had been our best player up to that point.

Ottawa is not the worst team in the league they just have the worst goaltending in the league. If Ottawa had Helle they would be above .500. Let's not forget Ottawa beat the Leafs and Habs and it was not a fuke.
If the Jets would have just put half of the shots on target instead of missing the net they would have scored more goals but that's how it works ... goals come easy one game and the next they don't.

 

[jetsforever]

People love throwing out that stat with no context.

He coached a perrenial bottom feeder team for a third of his career and racked up loses because they were an awful team with no money in a non-cap NHL.

I mean yeah, the stat doesn't mean much, especially since it's impressive to have coached long enough to rack up that many losses
It's still not a great stat to have though and Maurice is one of the longest-tenured coaches without a Cup win.

 

[Gm0ney]

The Jets actually played a pretty decent game against the worst team in the weakest division in pro hockey, but thems the breaks sometimes...

 

[Jaytee]

What I've learned so far this season is that if every time the Jets were tied going into the final three minutes of regulation time, you bet that they would lose in regulation, you'd have made money so far, and if every time the Jets were down by one goal going into the final three minutes of regulation time, you bet that they would win in overtime, you'd also have made money so far.

 

[antiqueslivers]

Don't hold back. We want to know what you really think.

Like Maurice's coaching, the criticisms of him have been seen too many times.
I will settle for just saying that his time has come and gone. He has grown stale. Time for a change, a new voice. I'm ready for anything, as long as it is different.

hahaha yeah I was straight up ranting!

 

[Neuf]

Not only are 3 point games going to be a deciding factor this year more than any other, every time the Jets start "playing for OT", they lose sloppily in regulation.

 

[WolfHouse]

Yes the excuses do keep coming as ppl keep finding new ways to blame csw. The excuses and attacks. It’s like ppl have personal axes to grind.

There’s no personal ax to grind except wanting to win... Wheeler has lost a step and Connor has lost all defensive awareness - this is the result of a year of no repercussions it seems

jets haven’t had a killer instinct for a long long time - maybe this core never had... we won’t win a cup without it

 

[DiggerD]

I think it is. No defense

Team defence may not be a strength in the North, but 1/3 of the top 50 scorers from last year (and 4 of the top 10) are in the North, as well as 2 of the top 5 for the Vezina.

 

[sipowicz]

Fair enough.

Truth is, we didn't lose that game in the last 10 seconds. We lost it in the first 59:50 when we could score only 1 goal on the worst team in the league playing their really bad backup goalie.

The mistake in the last 10 sec was primarily on Helle, secondarily on the D. Helle had been our best player up to that point.

BINGO

can’t say the Jets were outplayed by the Sens, just that the Jets looked disinterested all game.

We have a coach who can’t get the most out of his players on a consistent basis.

really looking forward to Lewis and Thompson in Edmonton Monday night, why have guys like Gus in the lineup when old no skill slow guys are available hey Mo!

 

[Tommigun]

BINGO

can’t say the Jets were outplayed by the Sens, just that the Jets looked disinterested all game.

We have a coach who can’t get the most out of his players on a consistent basis.

really looking forward to Lewis and Thompson in Edmonton Monday night, why have guys like Gus in the lineup when old no skill slow guys are available hey Mo!

The Sens are such a bad team that the Jets probably took it for granted. It’s the any given night thing, in the end can’t win them all.

 

[Tommigun]

Is this year’s Senators one of the worst teams in NHL history?

 

[Gnova]

Is this year’s Senators one of the worst teams in NHL history?

Not even close. Jets 1.0 had far worse rosters (I watched a lost of those games) and even they aren't considered to be the worst in NHL history.

 

[ryerockarola]

Not even close. Jets 1.0 had far worse rosters (I watched a lost of those games) and even they aren't considered to be the worst in NHL history.

Yup. NHL expansion used to raid rosters badly and cause bad records. Washington in the 70's with 7 W all season is the all-time worst. Ottawa's first year in 93 they had 10 wins and 24 points. They might get 10 wins this year in 56 games sitting on 3 W 7 pts.

 

[Tommigun]

Not even close. Jets 1.0 had far worse rosters (I watched a lost of those games) and even they aren't considered to be the worst in NHL history.

Hmmm... are you sure? Expansion teams have of course been historically the worst, but if they keep up this points pace they’ll easily make the bottom 15 list: Top 15 Worst NHL Teams of All Time

The 15th worst has a win ratio of 0.293 while the Sens are now at 0.25. I didn’t look where they would end up on the list but I think they’d definitely make it, no?

Edit: 1980-1981 Jets are fourth on the list so maybe they are indeed considered one of the worst teams ever?

 

[tbcwpg]

Hmmm... are you sure? Expansion teams have of course been historically the worst, but if they keep up this points pace they’ll easily make the bottom 15 list: Top 15 Worst NHL Teams of All Time

The 15th worst has a win ratio of 0.293 while the Sens are now at 0.25. I didn’t look where they would end up on the list but I think they’d definitely make it, no?

Edit: 1980-1981 Jets are fourth on the list so maybe they are indeed considered one of the worst teams ever?

I think they're better than they've played so far. They'll pick up wins towards the end of the year.

 

[Gnova]

I think they're better than they've played so far. They'll pick up wins towards the end of the year.

That is what I mean. I have watched a lot of the historically bad teams and the Sens aren't one of them.
The Sens have a better lineup than even the Jets 2.0 had on year one but the recorded hasn't shown this yet.

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

I think they're better than they've played so far. They'll pick up wins towards the end of the year.

Bad teams / teams eliminated early from playoff contention always seem to rack up wins at the end of the season. Those 3 games at the end of the season could be tough outs for us.