If you pair him up with Chabot or Chychrun they can do the heavy skating and lead the rushes. Tanev can stay at home , make the 1st pass, clear the front of the net and win board battles down low. He'll be effective for 2-3 years doing that.
News Article: Sens interested in Tanev
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jbeck5
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I feel like people said this about hamonic when we extended him.
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They didn't say he can win board battles and clear the net? Pretty sure they did.
The issue is it's hard to battle with all those speedy forwards down low when you're old and you've lost a step.
I'm not saying tanev has lost that step yet, but how long before he does is what I'm saying.
It's an interesting discussion. A lot of things come into play like drive and health but also luck. Because statistically speaking, most defenseman lose a step around his age.
He's 34 so a step or 2 in decline is coming soon. I would not pay much for him.
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Not sure a single person thought Hamonic was able to play in the top 4
Most people were adamant extending Hamonic was idiotic
Most people were adamant extending Hamonic was idiotic
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I really hope we move on to another target asap. Tanev is the right type of player, but at 34, a UFA and with the rumoured asking price, it just doesn't make a lot of sense.
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well management did, but they said a lot of stuff.
there is a reason Hamonic cost a 4th (special deal for us using a 3rd!) and Tanev more like a late 1st etc.
I think I’m on the same page as everyone else, not sure I’d trade for him but I’d sign in the summer to a 3 yr x$5
No comment
but I consider our whole race to be questionable on the intellect scale, myself included. 6mil is high, but we're hoping for a Vancouver like turn around. We so badly need that solid D vet, very much Tanev.It sounds more and more like he wants to go to a contender this year, so all this media hype is more about getting it in his head in FA that we can give him a good contract, and I think if we sort out goal tending maybe he comes here.
FA is sooo risky tho if you're betting on signing someone. Another team can always beat your offer...
BondraTime
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We need his archetype.
We don't need "him"
There are quite a few guys who can play 19ish minutes a game in a defensive role this UFA period.
We have 2 guys who will be getting 23+ minutes, be that Chabot or Chychrun. We need a guy for the 2nd pairing who can bang out 19 a night, we don't need another 23+ guy like the 3 we have now.
We need a Brendon Dillon/Jani Hakapaa/Brayden McNabb/Brandon Carlo/Josh Manson type defender; finding a guy like that for the right side shouldn't be a difficult task in the offseason. Ideally <30, but depending on player and contract it shouldn't be a huge sticking point.
A guy like Romonov, who went for the 13th was at the time was laughed at a gigantic amount here, obviously is a dream. But is exactly the kind of player the Sens need.
We should/need to have a D core of:
8 million - 4.5 million
8 million - ~4.5 million
<2 million - < 2 million
We can't be spending 24+ million on the left side, and we can't be spending 8 million on a guy and play him on a side that isn't working, we should be spending no more then 30 on the entire 7 man unit.
I was open to Hamonic on a one year, inexpensive, take it or leave it deal to be the 7th. Once the terms came out it was pretty clearly an idiotic deal.
Tanev has been a great pro, but you have to think he's on the edge of that cliff and it would be a heck of a risky signing. Bondra is right, find his archtype. Easier said than done, I know.
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We need Chris Tanev... and a time machine to make him 28 again. That's probably not gonna happen. Great job Staios!! 
So basically we need to get another Zub. A two way RD who excels at defending in all situations (rush, cycle, PK, etc.). The player doesn't need to be a 50 point player but, ideally, should not be a black hole offensively either.
Not easy to find but certainly doable.
So basically we need to get another Zub. A two way RD who excels at defending in all situations (rush, cycle, PK, etc.). The player doesn't need to be a 50 point player but, ideally, should not be a black hole offensively either.
Not easy to find but certainly doable.
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Friedman saying he doesn't think Tanev to Ottawa happening this season, but more of an off season move if he goes to Free Agency.
Dreger also saying that Calgary might be second guessing and actually resign Tanev due to the amount of interest he has from other teams.
Dreger also saying that Calgary might be second guessing and actually resign Tanev due to the amount of interest he has from other teams.
A. Friedman finally makes sense
B. Are Calgary well? We’re trading Tanev. Wait lots of teams like him?? Hmm
It's called posturing, good GMs know how to do it. Not everyone is like our ex-GM who will beg and bet the whole house when the other guy postured like this. "please, I beg you sir, here more picks".
That said, Tanev is an off-season play, simply don't see Staios getting into a bidding war to get him. Let the Laughs get him for a ton, lose in the first round, and then we can talk to his agent if it's worth it.
Do you think Calgary being like “hmm maybe we keep Tanev?????” Is gonna have teams just upping their offers?
Most GMs are dumb dudes with hockey connections.
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Tanev in free agency as a veteran pick up makes sense.
What's more interesting is who out of Chabot and Chychrun is Staois going to move.
Odds are it will be Chychrun simply because of contract and Chabot's leadership presence, but I'm torn on who I like more as a player.
What's more interesting is who out of Chabot and Chychrun is Staois going to move.
Odds are it will be Chychrun simply because of contract and Chabot's leadership presence, but I'm torn on who I like more as a player.
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Is there not a way where with the cap going up, with contracts coming off the books, and with dead cap going away, that we could keep the 3 left D, keep Zub, and just bring in 2 defensive RHD? Maybe one through free agent and one through a trade?
Like, what if we moved on from guys like jbd and brannstrom and signed tanev. And then maybe get a 1st or 2nd for Tarasenko and package that with another pick for a 3rd pair RHD and then rock:
Sanderson-zub
Chabot-tanev
Chychrun - (defensive RHD)
And just roll them.
See ya hamonic. See ya brannstrom. See ya jbd. Take their cap space. Take tarasenkos caps space.
See ya kubalik. Extra 5 mil in dead cap. Etc etc.
I wonder if it can work out cap wise. Assume Pinto on like a 3yrX4M territory bridge deal or something
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The advantage to getting him now is that we get the first chance to sell him on extending before other teams can give their pitch. To me, that's worth a second - especially if you have any inkling he'd be open to staying. He said his decision out of college came down to Vancouver and Ottawa so I don't think it's that far-fetched.
We get like ~6.5m in dead cap off the books for next year + the cap goes up. We actually have quite a bit of room to make it work if we wanted to.
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I guess the far fetched part is thinking we can get him for a 2nd even as a rental price. There are going to be playoff teams looking to add a guy like him, and won't mind paying a late first, especially if Cgy retains.
I'm also unsure it's wise to add a 34 year old dman, especially given it will take a multi year contract, so he'll be 35, 36, and 37 on a three year contract, with lots of miles on the body.
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It is possible and possible long term.
Roster $84 million
$3 million space.
Assumes we unload Forsberg/or consider JC actual cap is $4.6 next year.
JC extension on $7 per year.
F $45
Tkachuk 8 Stutzle 8 Giroux 5
Norris 8 Pinto 4 Batherson 5
? Greig 1 Joseph 3
Kelly 1 Kastelic 1 Mac 1
D 34
Sanderson 8 Zub 4
Chabot 8 Tanev 5
Chychrun 7 Kleven 1
1 Ham
G 5
Soopisalo 5
BondraTime
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Most any team winning the cup in the past 15 years has paid their top 3 D is 19ish million.
Sens shouldn't be paying 5+ million more than that as a team that has yet to even make the playoffs.
Even with the cap going up, the most we should be paying our top 3 guys is ~20 million.
Sens shouldn't be paying 5+ million more than that as a team that has yet to even make the playoffs.
Even with the cap going up, the most we should be paying our top 3 guys is ~20 million.
Some GMs are desperate to do whatever they can to retain their jobs. Some are not very astute. We had one GM who met both criteria.
And that's also with Chabot having missed significant time for injury. No easing him back into the line-up.
