Proposal: Second line centre capable for 55 points to Nashville

[Gavy]

One leafs fan wrote that Kadri is over 60% in the circle - yeah, for 3! games this year, but is awful 46% over his career and never ever had one over 50% FOW season, and the other one writes how Tyler Bozak reliably hits 50 points (OR is on pace for, but this is not how it works, pal, he is not OR on pace for, he is JUST on pace for, because in his 7 NHL seasons he never did hit 50 points), and somehow I'm dumb? Get the **** outta here.

Ok, I can't even understand half of your post.
His career pt pace is 50. How is that not how it works? Do we get to pick and choose which stats we like to win arguments?

I'm just taking issue with you saying all leaf fans make up stats to pump our players.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

One leafs fan wrote that Kadri is over 60% in the circle - yeah, for 3! games this year, but is awful 46% over his career and never ever had one over 50% FOW season, and the other one writes how Tyler Bozak reliably hits 50 points (OR is on pace for, but this is not how it works, pal, he is not OR on pace for, he is JUST on pace for, because in his 7 NHL seasons he never did hit 50 points), and somehow I'm dumb? Get the **** outta here.

He hit 49 points 2 years in a row... I could understand if he had never posted more than 40 or 45 in a season but had always paced at 50 points in a season but come on.

 

[slg1963]

Rangers offer JT Miller but need a RD coming back

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Matt Stajan for Dante Fabbro or Rem Pitlick?

55 points? Check. He's had 55 and 57 point seasons. Unlike Kadri and Bozak.
Already 2 points in 4 games and +3 this season? Check.
Also 60% on the dot just like Kadri.

 

[Raymoondo]

and the other one writes how Tyler Bozak reliably hits 50 points (OR is on pace for, but this is not how it works, pal, he is not OR on pace for, he is JUST on pace for, because in his 7 NHL seasons he never did hit 50 points), and somehow I'm dumb? Get the **** outta here.

My brain hurts.

 

[Drew4u]

Plekenec, and a second for Ekholm and Riberio

 

[PsychoDad]

He hit 49 points 2 years in a row... I could understand if he had never posted more than 40 or 45 in a season but had always paced at 50 points in a season but come on.

I know its semantics, but you just can't write about a veteran player who in 7 NHL years never did hit more than 49 that he reliably hits 50. No he doesn't, he reliably hits 49. If you want to write about his pace, write about his pace, especially because the OP specifically asked about a 55 point player, its more than 10% off. Its the same stuff with Kessel being a 40 goal scorer. To be a 40 goal scorer you need to actually hit 40.

 

[Gavy]

Plekenec, and a second for Ekholm and Riberio

Lol Nashville hangs up laughing

 

[Drew4u]

Lol Nashville hangs up laughing

Well they need a 55 point second line c, and Plekanec is that guy. Dont see a problem.

 

[Gavy]

Well they need a 55 point second line c, and Plekanec is that guy. Dont see a problem.

The fact that you expect to get Ekholm and Ribeiro back.
Plekanec barely outscored Ribeiro.
You're either severely undervaluing Ekholm and Ribeiro or overrating Plekanec

 

[Soundgarden]

Plekenec, and a second for Ekholm and Riberio

Take out Ekholm and the 2nd and it's fair.

 

[4thline]

Keep it simple, Bozak for Allard+2nd, maybe Watson?

 

[Lurked4Yearz]

Plekenec, and a second for Ekholm and Riberio

Doubt the Habs want Ribeiro back.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Bozak or Kadri for picks and prospects sound like good, relatively cheap options.

However I'd adress D-depth first.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

He said that calling Bozak a career 50 point per season player is a lie.

09-10: 27 points in 37 games (0.72 pt/g, 59.8 pace)
10-11: 32 points in 82 games
11-12: 47 points in 73 games (0.64 pt/g, 52.8 pace)
12-13: 28 points in 46 games (0.61 pt/g, 49.9 pace)
13-14: 49 points in 58 games (0.84 pt/g, 69.3 pace)
14-15: 49 points in 82 games
15-16: 35 points in 57 games (0.61 pt/g, 50.4 pace)

Career: 269 points in 437 games (0.62 pt/g, 50.1 pace)



Him, and you.

It is a lie. Pace is a meaningless stat based on hypotheticals. The fact is he has never once hit 50 points in a season. All you've proven is that he gets hurt a lot.

 

[gabeliscious]

i dont see the leafs rushing to move kadri. he is signed to a great contract. i also dont think lou will dump bozak for a late 2nd and average prospect. it might be fair value but it doesnt help the leafs either.

 

[Joey Moss]

RNH for Ellis + a solid bottom 6 forward?

 

[EK47]

Bozak?
Viktor Rask?
Filppula?

 

[HoseEmDown]

Namestnikov + Nesterov for Kamenev + Dougherty + pick? I know you don't want to move Kamenev but you jump the development of both him and Dougherty 3 years to players who can jump into the lineup right now. Nesterov helps the bottom pair it seems you are asking for.

If you won't move Kamenev how bout Namestnikov + Nesterov for Fabbro + Dougherty + pick?

 

[Caesium]

It is a lie. Pace is a meaningless stat based on hypotheticals. The fact is he has never once hit 50 points in a season. All you've proven is that he gets hurt a lot.

He has missed 62 games to injuries over his 7 year career. His rookie season he spent the beginning of the season in the Marlies, which is why that was shortened. 12-13 was a lockout year.

Players get hurt, 36 out of the top 50 point scorers last year failed to play all 82 games.

I can't believe that people are declaring that a career average pace of 50 points per 82 games doesn't mean he averages 50 points per 82 games.

 

[nobody0211]

Namestnikov + Nesterov for Kamenev + Dougherty + pick? I know you don't want to move Kamenev but you jump the development of both him and Dougherty 3 years to players who can jump into the lineup right now. Nesterov helps the bottom pair it seems you are asking for.

If you won't move Kamenev how bout Namestnikov + Nesterov for Fabbro + Dougherty + pick?

I like these(more Fabbro than kamenev)...would prefer getting defense back, but as long as nesterov moves the other way...ship it

 

[Vatican Roulette]

Namestnikov + Nesterov for Kamenev + Dougherty + pick? I know you don't want to move Kamenev but you jump the development of both him and Dougherty 3 years to players who can jump into the lineup right now. Nesterov helps the bottom pair it seems you are asking for.

If you won't move Kamenev how bout Namestnikov + Nesterov for Fabbro + Dougherty + pick?

I like it. Either one really.

 

[LeafingTheWay]

He has missed 62 games to injuries over his 7 year career. His rookie season he spent the beginning of the season in the Marlies, which is why that was shortened. 12-13 was a lockout year.

Players get hurt, 36 out of the top 50 point scorers last year failed to play all 82 games.

I can't believe that people are declaring that a career average pace of 50 points per 82 games doesn't mean he averages 50 points per 82 games.

Well not really, Bozak's production is very streaky.

To be noted, Bozak's main assets are his faceoffs and offense. He's not good defensively despite what some may say. I wouldn't want him as a 2C on my team, which is why I'd give him up for a 2nd + prospect.

 

[Jarey Curry]

Soderberg for nsh's 3rd best D

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I wonder what it would take to get RNH from Edmonton? He's clearly not got a spot as top six centre there anymore with drai and mcdavid.

With klefbom, larsson, sekera, nurse and not Russell does the oil still want defense?? Because I think this is a pretty good top five.
And oilers don't really need top six outside of a winger maybe???

I'd offer Ellis + Wilson/Jarnkrok for RNH and Davidson. We may have to add more. Only wanting Davidson because we need to have a Dman coming back, and Mark Fayne isn't an option, and Oilers wouldn't part with any of the above mentioned 5.