Proposal: Second line centre capable for 55 points to Nashville

deckercky

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This doesn't really make much sense, sure it would be nice to upgrade over Riberio, but the price it would take just to get someone like Bozak would be too expensive for us, unless the Leafs want a 2nd+ a B-grade prospect.

Top four defense is off limits, so are Saros, Kamenev, and Fiala. We really don't have much to offer without overpaying or underpaying. Unless Poile wants to start throwing away 1sts again, but look how that's panned out; Witt, Franson + Santorelli, etc.

In what world would Bozak cost more than a 2nd round pick + B prospect? :help:
 

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Brian Little (when healed or now) for Mattias Ekholm.
A separate deal for Trouba can be done to replenish the top 4 in Nashville as adding Ekholm fills the need for that top 4 LD. That means prospects/picks/filler from Nashville & they do have the cap space with a minor (3rd liner type) cap dump or Carle.
 

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Collected all proposals from this thread:

DD
Nuge
Kadri
Spooner
Bozak
Plekanec
Horvat
 

LeafingTheWay

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This doesn't really make much sense, sure it would be nice to upgrade over Riberio, but the price it would take just to get someone like Bozak would be too expensive for us, unless the Leafs want a 2nd+ a B-grade prospect.

Top four defense is off limits, so are Saros, Kamenev, and Fiala. We really don't have much to offer without overpaying or underpaying. Unless Poile wants to start throwing away 1sts again, but look how that's panned out; Witt, Franson + Santorelli, etc.

Bozak WOULD come cheap if Nashville wanted him. I'd take a 2nd + B grade prospect for Bozak easily. U

It's Kadri that would be expensive, and I'm pretty sure Nashville doesn't want that. If we move Kadri, it's solely for a top-4 RHD. A deal around Ellis and Kadri and pieces in between to even the value out would work but I'm pretty sure Nashville doesn't want to break that top-4D group either.
 

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Tyler Bozak didn't hit 50 points even once in his entire career even when playing first line with Kessel. What is up with you Toronto fans simply lying about your player stats?


PS. Spooner has never even hit 40 points, stop lying about your players

Edit: Googled it and I somehow thought he only had a career high of 36 points. I'll keep it so others can see how dumb I look
 
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amt98Bruin

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PS. Spooner has never even hit 40 points, stop lying about your players


Spooner had 49 points last year playing the majority of the year behind Bergeron and Krejci. When he was moved up to the second line to fill a void he excelled with second line scoring wingers so he is absolutely capable of putting up 50 points playing on the second line full time.
 
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Bozak WOULD come cheap if Nashville wanted him. I'd take a 2nd + B grade prospect for Bozak easily. U

It's Kadri that would be expensive, and I'm pretty sure Nashville doesn't want that. If we move Kadri, it's solely for a top-4 RHD. A deal around Ellis and Kadri and pieces in between to even the value out would work but I'm pretty sure Nashville doesn't want to break that top-4D group either.

Dougherty
2017 2nd

For

Bozak?
 

bucks_oil

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I wonder what it would take to get RNH from Edmonton? He's clearly not got a spot as top six centre there anymore with drai and mcdavid.

With klefbom, larsson, sekera, nurse and not Russell does the oil still want defense?? Because I think this is a pretty good top five.
And oilers don't really need top six outside of a winger maybe???

I don't think it's that clear at all. Nuge is still playing over a minute more per game than Draisaitl. Chiarelli loves his centers and Nuge is still his most reliable defensively and is most likely to be playing 2C (with Drai on his wing) at some point this year when Caggiula comes back (and if he shows he can play an energy 3C role).

We would only trade Nuge for a top pairing D or keep him... so keep him.

He's still (these 4 games accepted) among the top 30 - 45 point producing C in the league and he's strong defensively. It's nice to have three of those guys instead of just one (amazing what 18 months can do).
 

TOGuy14

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Tyler Bozak didn't hit 50 points even once in his entire career even when playing first line with Kessel. What is up with you Toronto fans simply lying about your player stats?

Tyler Bozak has a 0.62 PTS/gm average over 437 career NHL games, good for an average of nearly 51 points per 81 games.

Why do people try to argue semantics on things like this?
 

Caesium

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This doesn't really make much sense, sure it would be nice to upgrade over Riberio, but the price it would take just to get someone like Bozak would be too expensive for us, unless the Leafs want a 2nd+ a B-grade prospect.

Top four defense is off limits, so are Saros, Kamenev, and Fiala. We really don't have much to offer without overpaying or underpaying. Unless Poile wants to start throwing away 1sts again, but look how that's panned out; Witt, Franson + Santorelli, etc.

Dante Fabbro would probably make the Leafs pretty happy if he were made available. Pretty steep cost though, I would only see him being in a deal for Kadri, not Bozak. A 2nd and a lower end prospect is probably all it would take to get Bozak.
 

Gavy

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Spooner had 49 points last year playing the majority of the year behind Bergeron and Krejci. When he was moved up to the second line to fill a void he excelled with second line scoring wingers so he is absolutely capable of putting up 50 points playing on the second line full time.

Before calling another poster dumb for being incorrect, I suggest making sure that you're not incorrect as well.

I literally did Google this guy to check and I still somehow got it wrong. For some reason I Googled him and ca.e away with him having a career high of 36 points.

How the hell did I screw that one up
 

Midship

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Not only are you wrong, but you also look pretty dumb here after posters proved you wrong. So about par for the course for you.

PS. Spooner has never even hit 40 points, stop lying about your players
Please explain how he's wrong. Bozak has never hit 50 points in a season. Fact.
 
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amt98Bruin

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I literally did Google this guy to check and I still somehow got it wrong. For some reason I Googled him and ca.e away with him having a career high of 36 points.

How the hell did I screw that one up

He had 36 assists last year, probably just read a line over in the table:laugh:
 

LeafingTheWay

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Dougherty
2017 2nd

For

Bozak?

Don't know too much about Dougherty, but he is a 6-2 mobile RHD prospect (which we really need in our sytsem).

I know I said a 2017 2nd before, but I just realized that the 2nd is going to be really late (I strongly believe Nashville's going to make it deep into the playoffs with Subban on the team this year). Also, Toronto's been IMO making great selections in the late picks (4th -7th) with the new management. Maybe add another late pick?

Dougherty
2017 2nd
2017 5th

for

Bozak?
 

Caesium

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You're hilarious. What he posted is a fact... what exactly are you disputing?

He said that calling Bozak a career 50 point per season player is a lie.

09-10: 27 points in 37 games (0.72 pt/g, 59.8 pace)
10-11: 32 points in 82 games
11-12: 47 points in 73 games (0.64 pt/g, 52.8 pace)
12-13: 28 points in 46 games (0.61 pt/g, 49.9 pace)
13-14: 49 points in 58 games (0.84 pt/g, 69.3 pace)
14-15: 49 points in 82 games
15-16: 35 points in 57 games (0.61 pt/g, 50.4 pace)

Career: 269 points in 437 games (0.62 pt/g, 50.1 pace)
 
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PsychoDad

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Tyler Bozak reliably hits 50 points.

How many 50 point seasons does a player need to have "reliably hit 50 points"over a course of his career. At least one actual 50 point season would be a good start, no? Or is "being on pace on" now same as actually hit the points? I hope a man of such a remarkable educational background like yourself can enlighten me on that issue?
 
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Gavy

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He said that calling Bozak a career 50 point per season player is a lie.

09-10: 27 points in 37 games (0.72 pt/g, 59.8 pace)
10-11: 32 points in 82 games
11-12: 47 points in 73 games (0.64 pt/g, 52.8 pace)
12-13: 28 points in 46 games (0.61 pt/g, 49.9 pace)
13-14: 49 points in 58 games (0.84 pt/g, 69.3 pace)
14-15: 49 points in 82 games
15-16: 35 points in 57 games (0.61 pt/g, 50.4 pace)

Career: 269 points in 437 games (0.62 pt/g, 50.1 pace)

Thanks for this
 

PsychoDad

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He said leaf fans were lying about Bozak being on a 50 point pace every season...

One leafs fan wrote that Kadri is over 60% in the circle - yeah, for 3! games this year, but is awful 46% over his career and never ever had one over 50% FOW season, and the other one writes how Tyler Bozak reliably hits 50 points (OR is on pace for, but this is not how it works, pal, he is not OR on pace for, he is JUST on pace for, because in his 7 NHL seasons he never did hit 50 points), and somehow I'm dumb? Get the **** outta here.
 

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