Proposal: Second line centre capable for 55 points to Nashville

[Soundgarden]

If Ekholm or Ellis is for sale Calgary is interested.

Backlund is good for 40-50 points and is solid defensively.

Otherwise probably not.

They aren't, and they'd certainly be worth more than Mikael Backlund.

 

[DJJones]

They aren't, and they'd certainly be worth more than Mikael Backlund.

Don't really see what Nashville has to offer to trade then.

Oh well, see how Ribeiro and Fisher do in the playoffs. Christ, didn't realize they were both 36

 

[Soundgarden]

Don't really see what Nashville has to offer to trade then.

Oh well, see how Ribeiro and Fisher do in the playoffs. Christ, didn't realize they were both 36

Which is what i've already said in this thread earlier, we don't have assets to grab a center we don't really need.

Fisher had a great playoffs last year, while Riberio played god awful, Kamenev will likely replace him next year, and if not we still have Jarnkrok who's more than capable of playing the no.3C role.

 

[1909]

We will send you Plekanec... For d-man Girard playing in Shawinigan....

 

[1909]

Don't really see what Nashville has to offer to trade then.

Oh well, see how Ribeiro and Fisher do in the playoffs. Christ, didn't realize they were both 36

They can play Subban at centre... he is sooooooo talented.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

I'd do something around Carrier, Ribiero and a 2nd for Kadri. You can try to flip Ribs or send him down to the AHL for all I care. If you have a guy on D who could clear out the crease, I'd be willing to throw more into the pot.

Nashville's forwards aren't clicking, no matter how you look at it. We need to start scoring at even strength.

 

[Morbo]

Which is what i've already said in this thread earlier, we don't have assets to grab a center we don't really need.

Fisher had a great playoffs last year, while Riberio played god awful, Kamenev will likely replace him next year, and if not we still have Jarnkrok who's more than capable of playing the no.3C role.

yeah you're better off sitting tight. Leafs won't trade Kadri for scraps, he's got decent value as a legit 2C.

 

[Mrb1p]

A deal around Ekholm and Plekanec

 

[Kamiccolo]

I'd do something around Carrier, Ribiero and a 2nd for Kadri. You can try to flip Ribs or send him down to the AHL for all I care. If you have a guy on D who could clear out the crease, I'd be willing to throw more into the pot.

Nashville's forwards aren't clicking, no matter how you look at it. We need to start scoring at even strength.

Is this a joke

A prospect who wouldn't even crack our top 15 prospects, a 2nd when we had 3 this year and 2 right now, and an over the hill guy with no intangibles for a 50 point shut down C? This is terrible omfg.

Kadri gets under rated, but he has become elite defensively. This season he is great on the draw, has majority defensive zone starts, and plays other teams top lines. Despite this, he has near 70% positive corsi, and 4 points in 6 games.

Leaf fans were saying this last year but his bad start had him under rated and written off. This year he is going to be a great 1B center for any team.

I just can't believe this was proposed.

 

[4thline]

I'd do something around Carrier, Ribiero and a 2nd for Kadri. You can try to flip Ribs or send him down to the AHL for all I care. If you have a guy on D who could clear out the crease, I'd be willing to throw more into the pot.

Nashville's forwards aren't clicking, no matter how you look at it. We need to start scoring at even strength.

Wrong leaf centre, Kadri is unlikely to be traded and that would be far from doing it.

Bozak for Allard and a 3rd

 

[Incetardis]

Is this a joke

A prospect who wouldn't even crack our top 15 prospects, a 2nd when we had 3 this year and 2 right now, and an over the hill guy with no intangibles for a 50 point shut down C? This is terrible omfg.

Kadri gets under rated, but he has become elite defensively. This season he is great on the draw, has majority defensive zone starts, and plays other teams top lines. Despite this, he has near 70% positive corsi, and 4 points in 6 games.

Leaf fans were saying this last year but his bad start had him under rated and written off. This year he is going to be a great 1B center for any team.

I just can't believe this was proposed.

The offer proposed obviously does nothing for the Leafs. I'd be after Eckholm and that's about it in a deal involving Kadri. He's a strong 2way C but to say he's elite defensively is a bit of a stretch. He's about 50% on draws and he hasn't exactly shut down the lines he's matched against this season. He's still best suited centering a second scoring line in my opinion and with Fisher already there as a strong defensive 3C Kadri would be a perfect fit.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

A deal around Ekholm and Plekanec

 

[McspOiler]

I wonder what it would take to get RNH from Edmonton? He's clearly not got a spot as top six centre there anymore with drai and mcdavid.

With klefbom, larsson, sekera, nurse and not Russell does the oil still want defense?? Because I think this is a pretty good top five.
And oilers don't really need top six outside of a winger maybe???

Huh??? Nuge has played against the top line of the other team every game and shut them down every game. He is going no where barring an overpay

 

[Halla]

We once had a player score 5 points in 2 games and then he had a career ending injury . I guess he is consider a 205 point per season player ?

surely you dont consider a 437 game career pace and 2 game pace the same thing?

in that case leafs are beyond thrilled with their 82g/137pt C Auston Matthews

Bozak puts up a shade more than .6ppg. the last 3 seasons he has played at least 58 games he has gotten at least 47 pts each time. give him 77 games or so and he probably gets about 48 pts. it shouldnt be this hard people

Bozak for Carrier and a 2nd

 

[Finnish your Czech]

I can't see Kadri being traded. He has an important role and there's no one who can take his place currently.

Bozak for a 2nd or bust

 

[Brewins]

Can I interest you in a ryan spooner, or a slightly more used, but costlier david Krechi

 

[thadd]

I could see Edmonton and Nashville being decent trading partners, but we'll probably have to wait until after the expansion draft.

Ellis + legit 3rd line center for Nuge + ?

If Nurse learns to be reliable enough to make safe decisions in all zones for 20 minutes per night Nurse-Ellis would be a killer 2nd pairing.

Sekera/Davidson is a freaking elite 3rd pairing. Maybe best in the league.

 

[paulhiggins]

Tyler Bozak didn't hit 50 points even once in his entire career even when playing first line with Kessel. What is up with you Toronto fans simply lying about your player stats?

Close though but I can see how a point or two might upset nitpickers:
272 points in 442 games=50.46 average projected over 82 games over his whole career.

 

[bossram]

I can't see Kadri being traded. He has an important role and there's no one who can take his place currently.

Bozak for a 2nd or bust

Bozak for a 2ndish seems to be the consensus.

As a neutral fan, I'd say it's pretty fair.

 

[Soundgarden]

I could see Edmonton and Nashville being decent trading partners, but we'll probably have to wait until after the expansion draft.

Ellis + legit 3rd line center for Nuge + ?

If Nurse learns to be reliable enough to make safe decisions in all zones for 20 minutes per night Nurse-Ellis would be a killer 2nd pairing.

Sekera/Davidson is a freaking elite 3rd pairing. Maybe best in the league.

That'd be an interesting one. Johansen and RNH is a sweet 1-2 punch, we'd need a reliable defenseman coming back.

Ellis + Jarnkrok for Nuge + defenseman? is a good premise.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Bozak for Girard, straight up, please say yes. I want Girard so bad

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Is this a joke

A prospect who wouldn't even crack our top 15 prospects, a 2nd when we had 3 this year and 2 right now, and an over the hill guy with no intangibles for a 50 point shut down C? This is terrible omfg.

Kadri gets under rated, but he has become elite defensively. This season he is great on the draw, has majority defensive zone starts, and plays other teams top lines. Despite this, he has near 70% positive corsi, and 4 points in 6 games.

Leaf fans were saying this last year but his bad start had him under rated and written off. This year he is going to be a great 1B center for any team.

I just can't believe this was proposed.

Carrier is one of our better defensive prospects, but if you all would rather have Girard I'm fine with that too. Preds would need the Leafs to take Ribs contract back. I'd even trade Dougherty, but with a smaller +.

Bozak doesn't really fit the system we are trying to build.

 

[Bmessy]

Ryan Spooner? Had 49 pts last year playing 15 mins a night. He was at a .75 PPG pace before getting injured and it effected his last quarter. He's a great tool on the half wall on the PP. He's got good speed and vision and offsensive skills. He's not a very physical player and not very good in his own end. He doesn't play shorthanded time. If paired with good wingers I'm sure he'd be fine as an affordable #2C.

BOS has too many centers and they are playing Spooner at wing. Spooner is at his best when playing center. He's got a 950k cap hit and an RFA next year so he'll probably get a nice bridge deal.

We would need D in return

 

[Byrddog]

Ryan Spooner? Had 49 pts last year playing 15 mins a night. He was at a .75 PPG pace before getting injured and it effected his last quarter. He's a great tool on the half wall on the PP. He's got good speed and vision and offsensive skills. He's not a very physical player and not very good in his own end. He doesn't play shorthanded time. If paired with good wingers I'm sure he'd be fine as an affordable #2C.

BOS has too many centers and they are playing Spooner at wing. Spooner is at his best when playing center. He's got a 950k cap hit and an RFA next year so he'll probably get a nice bridge deal.

We would need D in return

Can you get a people stretcher and get him over 6'1? I can not see a team Fielding Spooner, Fiala, Jarnkrok, Arviddson. The Preds have enough shorty guys on the roster now one more is too much unless the guys name is Mats Zuccarello.

 

[4thline]

Carrier is one of our better defensive prospects, but if you all would rather have Girard I'm fine with that too. Preds would need the Leafs to take Ribs contract back. I'd even trade Dougherty, but with a smaller +.

Bozak doesn't really fit the system we are trying to build.

How would you rank Girard/Allard/Carrier/DOugherty in terms of your willingness to move them? and how much of that is handedness/playstyle needs vs raw value?