Sarnia Sting 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 5)

[dirty12]

lol I needed the summer off that London series still bothers me ... also combined with the fact we really have nothing positive to look forward to this year and possibly next.... Last years playoffs are going to look especially silly when Missy gets not 1 but 2 more years from Martone and hes a top 3 pick in the NHL... I can't remember a more lop-sided trade in the OHL lol a 2nd and your last 2 first round picks for Belluz ... I get Del Mastro too but damn they're both short-term rentals ...... teams loading up NEVER do what Sarnia did. Were just a silly organization that can't do anything right regardless of who's owning/coaching.

I though Sarnia went into the playoffs with the best playoff team in the league.

Peterborough traded an ‘05-1st to the wolves, 6th picked ‘05 to Hamilton, and the 6th picked ‘06 to Missassaga.

 

[howler2]

I though Sarnia went into the playoffs with the best playoff team in the league.

Peterborough traded an ‘05-1st to the wolves, 6th picked ‘05 to Hamilton, and the 6th picked ‘06 to Missassaga.

Sting had the team to go....they were outcoached .

 

[davewheeler]

I though Sarnia went into the playoffs with the best playoff team in the league.

Peterborough traded an ‘05-1st to the wolves, 6th picked ‘05 to Hamilton, and the 6th picked ‘06 to Missassaga.

Sarnia let go of 3 first round players last year alone all that would all be on the team for the next 2-3 years ..... for 3 rentals ... I don't remember that ever happening. But yah .... at least PTBO won.

Sting had the team to go....they were outcoached .

out-coached 100000% and poor goaltending. A mix for disaster.

IMO I would move Surzycia. Give him a chance to be a starter somewhere else. Have Chartier play under Ben. I believe Chartier would learn more playing under Ben.

why not Trade Ben and see what Surzycia is here? Lets not make the same mistake again like we did with Thornton. Ben needs to go.

 

[Buttsy]

Ben needs to go.

It's unfortunate when it happens but sadly he has never been the "Star" that he was thought he would be when he arrived in Sarnia? Consistency and Big Game performance seem to be areas of struggle for him, horrible deficiencies in a stopper. I can't see him fetching much on the open market BUT a change of scenery is probably best for both the team and himself. He is so hard on himself it's obvious he cares and wants to be the player most thought he would be. Bon Chance Bennie .....

 

[StingUpdates]

It's unfortunate when it happens but sadly he has never been the "Star" that he was thought he would be when he arrived in Sarnia? Consistency and Big Game performance seem to be areas of struggle for him, horrible deficiencies in a stopper. I can't see him fetching much on the open market BUT a change of scenery is probably best for both the team and himself. He is so hard on himself it's obvious he cares and wants to be the player most thought he would be. Bon Chance Bennie .....

Issue with trading him now is are there teams who want to make a trade for an OA goalie already? I was going thru teams last night that'll likely compete & most had their 3 OAs sorted, or had a goalie they believe in.

+ Ben might have to prove he's a top 5-7 goalie in the league to get any value in a trade. Which could be difficult behind such a young Dcore but teams will see past shaky numbers if he's performing well which is no guarantee.

 

[tjziel]

IMO I would move Surzycia. Give him a chance to be a starter somewhere else. Have Chartier

Sarnia let go of 3 first round players last year alone all that would all be on the team for the next 2-3 years ..... for 3 rentals ... I don't remember that ever happening. But yah .... at least PTBO won.


out-coached 100000% and poor goaltending. A mix for disaster.


why not Trade Ben and see what Surzycia is here? Lets not make the same mistake again like we did with Thornton. Ben needs to go.

Interesting to see some people wanna keep Ben Gaudreau. I would have thought he would be on the trade market for sure with Sarnia rebuilding.

 

[davewheeler]

Interesting to see some people wanna keep Ben Gaudreau. I would have thought he would be on the trade market for sure with Sarnia rebuilding.

I couldn't agree more... get a late round pick for him who cares... better than nothing.... I wanted Sarnia to move Ben before last year and roll with Thornton.... Ben needs outta Sarnia for his sake and ours... I don't know Sudburys' goalie situation but I do know they're Primed to win the East... maybe they need a goalie and Ben is from that area.

 

[JAMER]

At first the Lodon trade passed me off. But looking at it know we have more high end picks than. London, Erie, Windsor and we have 1 more 2nd then Owen sound. And if we can move a D man and a goalie before the season. To get a few more picks we might not be as worse as it sounds. But on another note can we show some more positivity on this thread I swear we're the most negative thread on here let's try to smile more OK

 

[howler2]

At first the Lodon trade passed me off. But looking at it know we have more high end picks than. London, Erie, Windsor and we have 1 more 2nd then Owen sound. And if we can move a D man and a goalie before the season. To get a few more picks we might not be as worse as it sounds. But on another note can we show some more positivity on this thread I swear we're the most negative thread on here let's try to smile more OK

It appears you havent read the Spits page

 

[tjziel]

I couldn't agree more... get a late round pick for him who cares... better than nothing.... I wanted Sarnia to move Ben before last year and roll with Thornton.... Ben needs outta Sarnia for his sake and ours... I don't know Sudburys' goalie situation but I do know they're Primed to win the East... maybe they need a goalie and Ben is from that area.

To be honest, I would love to see him in London and get him one more chance at an OHL title and see if he can reach his potential. He was so hyped out of the OHL draft, it sucks wasn’t able to take you guys all the way.

 

[StingUpdates]

At first the Lodon trade passed me off. But looking at it know we have more high end picks than. London, Erie, Windsor and we have 1 more 2nd then Owen sound. And if we can move a D man and a goalie before the season. To get a few more picks we might not be as worse as it sounds. But on another note can we show some more positivity on this thread I swear we're the most negative thread on here let's try to smile more OK

Yah I'm usually a lot more optimistic. The LDN loss really put a dagger thru the heart haha. Need to get over it

WSR should be able to recoup picks. They have some really good pieces to sell. As I've said before I think this team has more potential than most believe, but gotta see it all come together first. A lot of uncertainties.

To be honest, I would love to see him in London and get him one more chance at an OHL title and see if he can reach his potential. He was so hyped out of the OHL draft, it sucks wasn’t able to take you guys all the way.

Honestly if Bowen doesn't progress wouldn't shock me if u called. Your D is gonna be so stacked not like u need a crazy goalie. Trade Humphrey or MacKinnon back as 3rd OA & maybe we add in a Filak to replace that grit you'd lose trading 1 of them away. Obviously we'd want picks back.

But that's down the road haha. I'm actually a believer in Bowen, but I don't think his leash as starting G is all that long

 

[tjziel]

Yah I'm usually a lot more optimistic. The LDN loss really put a dagger thru the heart haha. Need to get over it

WSR should be able to recoup picks. They have some really good pieces to sell. As I've said before I think this team has more potential than most believe, but gotta see it all come together first. A lot of uncertainties.


Honestly if Bowen doesn't progress wouldn't shock me if u called. Your D is gonna be so stacked not like u need a crazy goalie. Trade Humphrey or MacKinnon back as 3rd OA & maybe we add in a Filak to replace that grit you'd lose trading 1 of them away. Obviously we'd want picks back.

But that's down the road haha. I'm actually a believer in Bowen, but I don't think his leash as starting G is all that long

That’s a great post! It’s not like he needs to be perfect, but could be a good get for us if we want that veteran net minder we need to contend

 

[davewheeler]

That’s a great post! It’s not like he needs to be perfect, but could be a good get for us if we want that veteran net minder we need to contend

Hunter knows the importance of having a good goalie.... literally every time London has made a run or won they had an elite goalie.... the list is too long to name ... everyone always talks about London's position players being stacked.... the goalie position has been stacked too. This is me guessing but I don't think Hunter would want Ben after seeing him implode vs them last year.... London was in his head from the jump.... Hunter knows..... There is a zero % chance Hunter rolls with Bowen the entire year and playoffs .... He's never risked having a young goalie leading his team in a potential championship year.

 

[davewheeler]

Hunter knows the importance of having a good goalie.... literally every time London has made a run or won they had an elite goalie.... the list is too long to name ... everyone always talks about London's position players being stacked.... the goalie position has been stacked too. This is me guessing but I don't think Hunter would want Ben after seeing him implode vs them last year.... London was in his head from the jump.... Hunter knows..... There is a zero % chance Hunter rolls with Bowen the entire year and playoffs .... He's never risked having a young goalie leading his team in a potential championship year.

I know people are going to say Parsons but he's an exception lol he was elite from the jump.

 

[frontsfan67]

Hey sting fans! Who is your OA’s for the season?

 

[JAMER]

Hey sting fans! Who is your OA’s for the season?

We currently have Way, Sikic and Gaudreau

 

[frontsfan67]

We currently have Way, Sikic and Gaudreau

Thanks!

 

[tjziel]

Hunter knows the importance of having a good goalie.... literally every time London has made a run or won they had an elite goalie.... the list is too long to name ... everyone always talks about London's position players being stacked.... the goalie position has been stacked too. This is me guessing but I don't think Hunter would want Ben after seeing him implode vs them last year.... London was in his head from the jump.... Hunter knows..... There is a zero % chance Hunter rolls with Bowen the entire year and playoffs .... He's never risked having a young goalie leading his team in a potential championship year.

Exactly, so it leads me to believe Michael Simpson or Ben Gaudreau are the best options. And if it’s Ben, then he can be head free of Dale lol

 

[dirty12]

At first the Lodon trade passed me off. But looking at it know we have more high end picks than. London, Erie, Windsor and we have 1 more 2nd then Owen sound. And if we can move a D man and a goalie before the season. To get a few more picks we might not be as worse as it sounds. But on another note can we show some more positivity on this thread I swear we're the most negative thread on here let's try to smile more OK

The only picks that can make Sarnia truly competitive within a few years are lottery picks, and the top choices of imports that comes with being a lottery team imo.

Windsor can acquire better picks than Sarnia, and have good 2006 born.
Erie, London, & OS are loaded with good multi-year players.
In the division Flint & SSM are way ahead of Sarnia.

 

[davewheeler]

The only picks that can make Sarnia truly competitive within a few years are lottery picks, and the top choices of imports that comes with being a lottery team imo.

Windsor can acquire better picks than Sarnia, and have good 2006 born.
Erie, London, & OS are loaded with good multi-year players.
In the division Flint & SSM are way ahead of Sarnia.

Agree, Sarnia is gonna need a year or two of top 3 picks.... we wont ever get 1 overall because that will likely be Niagara. At first glance I do not see any exceptional status players for this year and I do not follow Midget hockey so I can't say anything about the upcoming draft class. I will say, Sarnia should go all in for a memorial cup bid next time around.... by then we should be loaded on picks and players..... If Saginaw can get it so can we I don't care what anyone says.

 

[JAMER]

I was talking to someone I know at the BBQ today. And they know the Waddick family. And they were saying that we tried to aquire him. But we put our offer in to late and Owen sound got him. Makes me wonder what we would have given up. Also makes me wonder if we might be still looking to make a simallar move still. On another note I took the locker room tour kinda found it odd that Seca's office was the only door that was closed but its probably just me looking to far into things

 

[StingUpdates]

I was talking to someone I know at the BBQ today. And they know the Waddick family. And they were saying that we tried to aquire him. But we put our offer in to late and Owen sound got him. Makes me wonder what we would have given up. Also makes me wonder if we might be still looking to make a simallar move still. On another note I took the locker room tour kinda found it odd that Seca's office was the only door that was closed but its probably just me looking to far into things

Couldn't of seen us offering to many picks. Maybe would've offered one of their D (Young or Campbell). They definitely know scoring will be an issue. A move will probably come down to if they deem its worth it to spend an asset or two in a rebuilding yr. I'd say no unless it's buy low type trade (like Lindberg a few years ago)

Wouldn't read much into that. He could have a board on the wall that says stuff they'd like to keep private (trade targets, injuries etc.)

What did u think of the room? I saw on FB they have a "grit leader board" lol. Said it at rookie camp Letang told the rookies they felt like they were to soft last yr & he doesn't want that to happen again under him. Clearly they are making it a point of emphasis. Just hope they don't go overboard with it.

 

[StingUpdates]

Agree, Sarnia is gonna need a year or two of top 3 picks.... we wont ever get 1 overall because that will likely be Niagara. At first glance I do not see any exceptional status players for this year and I do not follow Midget hockey so I can't say anything about the upcoming draft class. I will say, Sarnia should go all in for a memorial cup bid next time around.... by then we should be loaded on picks and players..... If Saginaw can get it so can we I don't care what anyone says.

I don't think we are far off. Solid arena, could easily use the college for stuff as it's connected & has had major renovations the last 5-10 years. Hotels all around the city for opposing teams to stay at during it & everything is so close by be very minimal travel for team events (like going to the bridge or golfing)

If there's 1 thing Sting fans have shown they'll pack the place if they're good. So assuming we aren't one of those mem cup teams that sucks (it's sarnia we'd for sure lose RD1 lol) they'd get 4,500 + a game.

And it's a solid spot for opposing teams fans. Especially most OHL markets & the American teams in the CHL.

Biggest thing would be who else bids. We'd never get it over an Oshawa, Kitchener, London, Windsor. But the rest of the league I bet we'd have a real chance.

 

[JAMER]

Couldn't of seen us offering to many picks. Maybe would've offered one of their D (Young or Campbell). They definitely know scoring will be an issue. A move will probably come down to if they deem its worth it to spend an asset or two in a rebuilding yr. I'd say no unless it's buy low type trade (like Lindberg a few years ago)

Wouldn't read much into that. He could have a board on the wall that says stuff they'd like to keep private (trade targets, injuries etc.)

What did u think of the room? I saw on FB they have a "grit leader board" lol. Said it at rookie camp Letang told the rookies they felt like they were to soft last yr & he doesn't want that to happen again under him. Clearly they are making it a point of emphasis. Just hope they don't go overboard with it.

I was thinking the other day. That one move I'd like us to make. Is maybe trying to get McNamara from Saginaw. Still 18 good size and good skill. He clearly needs a change of scenery and shouldn't cost too much. And he could be a stud OA when we try to go for it again. Plus he would step right in as a top 6 guy for us he'd probably a bottom 6 guy again for Saginaw again this year.

 

[StingUpdates]

I was thinking the other day. That one move I'd like us to make. Is maybe trying to get McNamara from Saginaw. Still 18 good size and good skill. He clearly needs a change of scenery and shouldn't cost too much. And he could be a stud OA when we try to go for it again. Plus he would step right in as a top 6 guy for us he'd probably a bottom 6 guy again for Saginaw again this year.

I wouldn't hate that at all. Hes always been a guy who I've thought has a lot more upside than his numbers indicate. Not sure where he projects this yr on sag who's likely to add some Fs.