Rumor: San Jose trying to trade Evander Kane

[HuGo Sham]

It's a gigantic F-off to the world

yeah maybe. more like he's tone deaf and telling everyone it's all chill and normal and his
ex is making stuff up. regardless, it's clearly a guy who can't 'read the room'

 

[HuGo Sham]

Like a BOSS

Problems

What problems

exactly

 

[Groo]

yeah maybe. more like he's tone deaf and telling everyone it's all chill and normal and his
ex is making stuff up. regardless, it's clearly a guy who can't 'read the room'

I can't help but see.... smug

 

[al secord]

Dude's declared bankruptcy, is being sued, is reportedly hated by his teammates, is having a public fight with his estranged wife and is getting investigated by the NHL for gambling on games.

Posting having dinner at a fancy restaurant seems really dumb and unnecessary.

He should have pulled his shades down over his eyes for you.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

He should have pulled his shades down over his eyes for you.

 

[xoczar99ox]

No shit…

 

[DG93]

I honestly regret saying anything tbh..

Im only getting one (tiny) side of the story, but what Ill say is that Couture and Karlsson arent close, at all.. And Couture is firmly intent on staying put in SJ as the captain, has no desire to ever leave.

Paraphrasing here, but he thinks that at least a couple of players that hes called out for being checked out in some way last season (in specific guys from a small clique together opposite of Coutures side) have already cried to their agents - some of whom are shared by other players on the team - and they want out if possible, or Couture gone lol.

But I guess a lot of it has to do with Couture getting tough(er?) on guys last season. Some guys didnt respond well or agree with it, And there were some harsh words exchanged after some loses last season. And he feels like he has managements full backing on this, and will be the one left stranding if/when the axes fall. Again greatly paraphrasing this all from a second hand source (and it was well before anything Kane related came out).

So I have no idea who (if anyone) has asked for a real trade yet, or if people are just sour and moaning to one another (Couture included). But I would be really suprised is that was one of the happier and cohesive locker rooms in the NHL right now, based on what most of us can see to be obvious. Imo...

If you don't mind sharing, what kind of second-hand source are we talking here?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I'm sure the usual folks will be here to point out that Kane is just misunderstood at every stop since Atlanta and that it's someone else's fault.

I’d get rid of them all. Kane for all the bullshit and the rest for letting it be an excuse to play like shit.

yep, every single one of them and every single coach should be cleansed. It also should include DW after the cleanse.

Yeah, if anyone uses this as an alibi, seems like the perfect excuse/reason to start a real purge. Especially with the upcoming drafts...

 

[HuGo Sham]

I can't help but see.... smug

for sure

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Wonder if San Jose has the option to terminate him. No NHL will want to trade for him, maybe Arizona but other than that I doubt literally anybody wants him considering the whole Sharks team wants him gone just like the Winnipeg Jets team did.

But if they can't get a deal done I see Kane being assigned to the AHL or ECHL to whichever team is not affiliated with the Sharks. My guess is the Chicago Wolves or Norfolk Admirals (because they're not affiliated with anybody).

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Wonder if San Jose has the option to terminate him. No NHL will want to trade for him, maybe Arizona but other than that I doubt literally anybody wants him considering the whole Sharks team wants him gone just like the Winnipeg Jets team did.

But if they can't get a deal done I see Kane being assigned to the AHL or ECHL to whichever team is not affiliated with the Sharks. My guess is the Chicago Wolves or Norfolk Admirals (because they're not affiliated with anybody).

No team will take him especially not Arizona without it very heavily tilted in their favor. Something the Sharks are in no position to be doing because they don't have expendable future assets. The AHL avenue is the far more realistic option if termination is not an option for them. I tend to believe that they will go the termination route one way or the other.

 

[LMFAO]

Wonder if San Jose has the option to terminate him. No NHL will want to trade for him, maybe Arizona but other than that I doubt literally anybody wants him considering the whole Sharks team wants him gone just like the Winnipeg Jets team did.

But if they can't get a deal done I see Kane being assigned to the AHL or ECHL to whichever team is not affiliated with the Sharks. My guess is the Chicago Wolves or Norfolk Admirals (because they're not affiliated with anybody).

Well if LA was able to terminate Mike Richards because he got caught with non prescribed painkillers I’m sure San Jose can find something to terminate Kane’s contract.

 

[supsens]

Well if LA was able to terminate Mike Richards because he got caught with non prescribed painkillers I’m sure San Jose can find something to terminate Kane’s contract.

Drug smuggling across international borders vrs mad woman...

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Well if LA was able to terminate Mike Richards because he got caught with non prescribed painkillers I’m sure San Jose can find something to terminate Kane’s contract.

The difference here is Evander Kane might be guilty of losing his games on purpose with gambling. Meaning he will no longer be on the payroll. Richards had a lawful case whereas it put him on the payroll until 2032.

 

[jrs]

Buying him out doesn't seem too bad to the sharks cap.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

The difference here is Evander Kane might be guilty of losing his games on purpose with gambling. Meaning he will no longer be on the payroll. Richards had a lawful case whereas it put him on the payroll until 2032.

Richards didn't really have a case. It was just in everyone's interest to settle.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I still think it was stupid San Jose took Kane over Pavelski. I knew once that contract was signed there'd be trouble. If Pavelski had never left I believe the Sharks would still be a playoff team to this day.

 

[serp]

I still think it was stupid San Jose took Kane over Pavelski. I knew once that contract was signed there'd be trouble. If Pavelski had never left I believe the Sharks would still be a playoff team to this day.

That was Karlssons contract . Kane was signed the offseason before but i think it was noticeable that the Sharks fell apart after Pavelski left.

 

[Painful Quandary]

I still think it was stupid San Jose took Kane over Pavelski. I knew once that contract was signed there'd be trouble. If Pavelski had never left I believe the Sharks would still be a playoff team to this day.

The Sharks were not going to over Pavelski a third year on this contract, where as Dallas offered that third year. This is a common thing for the Sharks to do with 35 year-old and older players as they did not offer Marleau a third year (signed with Leafs) and Boyle a second year (signed with Rangers).

 

[DollardStLaurent]

Don't know if this was already posted. If it was, I apologize.

Sharks GM Doug Wilson reportedly got complaints during the season from his players regarding Evander Kane.

“Guys were going into Doug’s office all year long,” according to a source for The Athletic, “saying Kane had to go. … All Doug would say is, ‘All teams have locker-room issues,’ which just isn’t true. Not the teams that win, anyway.” That meshes with a previous report that several Sharks players don't want Kane to return for the 2021-22 campaign. One reported issue with him is the "negative energy he brings into the room." Kane is also currently under investigation from the NHL following allegations that he bet on his own games and even threw them to win bets. Kane has denied those allegations.
SOURCE: The Athletic
Aug 12, 2021, 5:04 AM ET

 

[serp]

The Sharks were not going to over Pavelski a third year on this contract, where as Dallas offered that third year. This is a common thing for the Sharks to do with 35 year-old and older players as they did not offer Marleau a third year (signed with Leafs) and Boyle a second year (signed with Rangers).

They signed Karlsson , Burns , Vlasic and Coture to longterm contracts that run until they're in their as old or even older than Pavelski will be when his deal with the Stars expires after next season.

 

[BB88]

Heard a rumour from a source that I trust - Logan Couture is not a fan of Evander Kane, at all. Lol. Is what Ill say delicately. And hes got more opinions on the Sharks roster too..

Lol hilariously enough I heard in the same conversation that there is another EK on the Sharks that hes not particularly fond of, and wishes that the Sharks would part ways with him (which is apparently a mutual feeling thats not yet become public).

I guess Ive heard that Couture is a bit of a workaholic by nature, and hes not seeing the same level of effort from this particular player - and he was kindly told to pound sand when he tried to have a constructive chat with that player about his concerns...

I can tell you for absolute certain that the Sharks are a fractured mess inside the locker room right now, like 10 times worse than what the public actually knows about. There are factions within the room and lots of them. And unless they revert back into the old Sharks and breeze their way into the playoffs, ill be shocked if they havent traded one or more of their big name players.

Whos’ jumping in on those anchor contracts?
Sharks have some of the worst contracts in the league

 

[Boud]

I don't think SJ can terminate his contract in any way and if they tried to do it the PA would be on their ass, I really don't see a scenario where they could do it. Kane has his share of issues but to terminate a contract there needs to be some concrete evidence that something illegal happened. The fact that Kane is in a messy divorce with his ex-wife is not illegal. If true, it's incredibly disappointing but you need way more than that to proceed with a termination.

The only way they would be able to proceed with it would be if they could prove that Kane gambled on NHL games but nothing has been proved so far. I anticipate Kane will need to be bought out unless the Sharks feel like he can stay on their roster despite the claim that his teammates aren't really happy with it.

It's a shame because he's a very good hockey player.

If SJ is about to lose Kane then I think it would be a great opportunity for them to stop playing and go full rebuild.

 

[Soundwave]

Wonder if San Jose has the option to terminate him. No NHL will want to trade for him, maybe Arizona but other than that I doubt literally anybody wants him considering the whole Sharks team wants him gone just like the Winnipeg Jets team did.

But if they can't get a deal done I see Kane being assigned to the AHL or ECHL to whichever team is not affiliated with the Sharks. My guess is the Chicago Wolves or Norfolk Admirals (because they're not affiliated with anybody).

They would have to have rock solid proof of the gambling allegations to terminate the contract, if they can't provide that ... you can't just terminate someone's contract because his teammates don't like him.

The NHLPA would cry bloody murder.

 

[Painful Quandary]

They signed Karlsson , Burns , Vlasic and Coture to longterm contracts that run until they're in their as old or even older than Pavelski will be when his deal with the Stars expires after next season.

Those players were younger at the time of their signings. I am guessing Doug Wilson thought the team could still make the playoffs for a few years before age caught up with them. On top of that, Pavelski had an inflated shooting percentage that was being sustained by an aging Thornton. Unfortunately for Wilson, Martin Jones absolutely imploded, and the Vlasic contract was a day-one mistake. Wilson was talking about how a late-twenties Vlasic had untapped offensive potential, WTF. How those contracts really hurt the Sharks was costing them depth players like Donskoi and Nyquist, who was a good fit as a rental.