Rumor: Sam Girard for forward help [ MOD warning # 274 ]

[Moose and Squirrel]

The numbers say otherwise but okay.

what numbers are those? is it the high of 5 goals in a season? the 30 assists?

I get it he's a good player, but he's being bandied about like he's elite or something. and with the forwards he plays with, he SHOULD have a ton of assists

 

[jackjohnson]

Canucks can trade Pearson and Schenn for Girard. We will add a 3rd or Highmore for more forqaes depth.

 

[Chris P Hundo]

Chambers has no sources or credibilty... but if this is true the ask should be Necas. Or someone comparable. If not more.

 

[Archijerej]

For Girard, Josh Anderson is up for grabs, either directly to Colorado, or as a means to include a 3rd party that has what you guys need.

 

[Avaholic29]

what numbers are those? is it the high of 5 goals in a season? the 30 assists?

I get it he's a good player, but he's being bandied about like he's elite or something. and with the forwards he plays with, he SHOULD have a ton of assists

zone entries, zone exits, plenty of positives to his game. The fact he gets bodied by heavy forechecks is his downfall but he’s absolutely top 30 in a lot of areas.

 

[Dutronc]

For Girard, Josh Anderson is up for grabs, either directly to Colorado, or as a means to include a 3rd party that has what you guys need.

And i'm a huge fan of Josh but yeah. We need PMD and Girard is right that

 

[howboutahug]

what numbers are those? is it the high of 5 goals in a season? the 30 assists?

I get it he's a good player, but he's being bandied about like he's elite or something. and with the forwards he plays with, he SHOULD have a ton of assists

He's definitely not elite yet, but he's got the skillset to become it. For the most part he's been decent defensively. The only knock is the physical aspect, as we all saw in the Vegas series. That was by far the worst he's played since joining Colorado. It's interesting because with the toolbox he was gifted the points just haven't followed.

P/PG:

17/18: .31
18/19: .32
19/20: .48
20/21: .66

 

[Theodore450]

For Girard, Josh Anderson is up for grabs, either directly to Colorado, or as a means to include a 3rd party that has what you guys need.

No he’s not

 

[triggrman]

You should totally trade him for Matt Duchene.

lol. Girard would still be on our bottom pairing as a left defenseman. And Duchene has finally started playing like he should. Funny thought though.

 

[95snipes]

Retention and a couple of cap dumps. How can they say no?

If it's a bad proposal, I'm ok to let it die. It's just hfboards trade rumors.

But since you asked.. A rebuilding team turns a 34 year old into a 23 year old. That in itself should be considered a huge win. Not to mention they fill a major team need as well with a top pairing LD.

In 1.5 years Jost and Compher's contracts expire. They could easily rid themselves of them at this time next year if they really needed to. In 2.5 years Kopitars does (rentention stops). At that point, the Kings, presumably contenders, will have a top pairing defenseman locked up at $5mm for another 3 years. That is one of the best contracts in the league, especially as the Cap rises.

The Avs would be taking a big risk here as this is basically an all in move. If they don't win in the next 3 years, this would go down as a horrible trade for the Avs.

Also Jost is not a cap dump and most Avs fans would probably prefer to keep him as the 4C. For me, it's a roster construction issue, and I would prefer someone who can play more of a physical game as my 4C. I do think he would fare better with LA's play style than the Avs, but he could be taken out of the deal entirely and it wouldn't change much.

 

[shadow1]

As far as I'm concerned, this isn't a rumor considering the source. I don't actually believe Colorado wants to trade Girard. If they trade him, I'm going to seriously question Joe Sakic's savviness as a GM.

I really can't think of a player who would be a perfect 1-for-1 match in a trade, but the Avalanche obviously need help on the 2nd line. Saad walked in the off-season, Burakovsky and Kadri are impending UFAs.

 

[Postanin CB Ting]

I'll keep saying it til it happens but he's gonna be rocking the black n gold in Pittsburgh with Newhook and Kadri. Soon after Olympics

 

[elitepete]

The Canucks wouldn't even briefly consider that.

In Ekman-Larsson, Hughes, and Rathbone we have 3 players who are somewhat similar to Girard, we have no need for him and if we added him it would completely unbalance our D, despite him obviously being an upgrade on many of our D skill wise.

The fit isn't there.

Dumping Miller for an entirely redundant defence man would be a terrible move.

He would be our second best defenseman at DEFENDING

 

[Rabid Ranger]

I'd be curious to see which d-men Avs fans have Girard in front of.

 

[pspot]

Muzzin and Mikheyev

 

[a mangy Meowth]

I'd be curious to see which d-men Avs fans have Girard in front of.

He's behind Makar obviously, as well as Toews but they've been interchangeable. Hard to tell with Byram, probably about equal but Byram is trending up. Anyone else is below, so that would be Erik Johnson, Ryan Murray, Jack Johnson

 

[Spilot23]

This thread is literally just gonna be everyone proposing middle six wingers for Girard, isn't it.




And it's probably gonna be 50% Montreal fans. Time to add it to the ignore list.

Man at this point with what it has been offered keep him please !

 

[GrandmaCookie]

He's behind Makar obviously, as well as Toews but they've been interchangeable. Hard to tell with Byram, probably about equal but Byram is trending up. Anyone else is below, so that would be Erik Johnson, Ryan Murray, Jack Johnson

How weird that is that we are talking about formers 1st, 2nd and 3rd pick overall.

 

[Foppberg]

I'd be curious to see which d-men Avs fans have Girard in front of.

EJ, JJ, McDermid, Murray.

Toews/Makar are clearly better, and Byram is debatable because he's so young, but has been SO good this season and has great potential. Whereas G is struggling hard so far this season but has been great the past few years.

Going forward I'd personally have them as Makar/Byram/Toews/Girard, but also expect one of G/Toews to be traded in a year or two.

 

[GiFRAUD is a BUST]

Iafallo would be Colorado's leading scorer. He's already an elite forward defensively and is starting to really hit his stride offensively. I'm not sure I want to trade Iafallo if I'm LA.

Yikes, you are a hyperbolic delusional homer.

 

[GiFRAUD is a BUST]

EJ, JJ, McDermid, Murray.

Toews/Makar are clearly better, and Byram is debatable because he's so young, but has been SO good this season and has great potential. Whereas G is struggling hard so far this season but has been great the past few years.

Going forward I'd personally have them as Makar/Byram/Toews/Girard, but also expect one of G/Toews to be traded in a year or two.

Why would we trade Toews? Avs desperately need the physical shutdown D that Toews is. We can't only have offensively minded dudes like Makar and Byram. That's why I'm really loving EJ, JJ, and Murray minus injury potential

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

-Toffoli

-Anderson

-Dvorak

if hes really on the market i dont see why Montreal woudlnt be interested

 

[Foppberg]

Why would we trade Toews? Avs desperately need the physical shutdown D that Toews is. We can't only have offensively minded dudes like Makar and Byram. That's why I'm really loving EJ, JJ, and Murray minus injury potential

Because once his current contract expires he'll wanna get paid, and we could use some legit forward help up front. I'd much rather trade G though.

 

[GiFRAUD is a BUST]

Because once his current contract expires he'll wanna get paid, and we could use some legit forward help up front. I'd much rather trade G though.

True, I would just hate to see Toews go. That would be a blunder by Sakic unless the return was mighty. Ie. Boesser, Bennet, Saad (lol) etc.

 

[likash]

He would be our second best defenseman at DEFENDING

Have you seen Girard defend? He makes OEL look like Nick Lidstrom