Rumor: Sam Girard for forward help [ MOD warning # 274 ]

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Yzerman will offer Fabbri. And Colorado will add the first.

(because it's an yzerman trade)

Imagine actually believing this

 

[Perratrooper]

Do you think he could play the right side with OEL playing the most difficult matchups? Myers has been good so far but I feel like that has been more a product of OEL carrying him. If we could get a legit top pairing d man that could play in that role with OEL, our D would be much better.

I’d offer something around Miller for Girard.

To be completely honest it depends on if it’s Girard from last regular season and the year prior or the Girard who showed up in playoffs and has played to start this season. Girard of last season would have been more than capable, but he seems off early on this year.

I think the extra term Girard has adds additional value and Miller tends to be a better wing than center. So I would say the value is still on the Avs side, but a good starting point.

 

[Perratrooper]

To Calgary: Girard

To Colorado: Monahan (50% retained), Zadorov


Calgary get a long term upgrade on D

Colorado add a 3C and a bottom pairing Dman to help offset the loss of Girard

Zadorov has been a healthy scratch half the time in Calgary and his scratching set a huge winning streak in place. Monahan hasn’t been the same since surgery. Huge gap in value.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

To Calgary: Girard

To Colorado: Monahan (50% retained), Zadorov


Calgary get a long term upgrade on D

Colorado add a 3C and a bottom pairing Dman to help offset the loss of Girard

COL already had Zadorov. why would they want him again when they wanted to move on from him?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Girard can play the right side, he spent most of last season on the Right Side either on a pairing with Toews, or with Ryan Graves.


That said, he really should be used on the Left Side. Especially for a player who's biggest strength is how quickly and how well he can transition the puck from Defense to Offense, its a lot harder to do that when you're playing on your off side and have to pick up or receive pucks on your back hand. It was part of the reason he struggled in the Vegas series. Being undersized was one thing but being undersized and trying to play his off side against the heavy forecheck Vegas brought just didn't do him any favors at all.

 

[kinghock]

Iafallo would be Colorado's leading scorer. He's already an elite forward defensively and is starting to really hit his stride offensively. I'm not sure I want to trade Iafallo if I'm LA.

I would not give Iafallo+Kempe from Kings point of view for Girard.
He is the last thing Kings are needed at the moment while also spending valuable assets for him.
I totally agree with this quote: "They were highly unhappy how Sam Girard played in the 2nd RD series against Vegas, his turnovers, he didn't produce offensively, he was not good and I think that has lingered on into this season.

 

[howboutahug]

Mike Chambers doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about and never really has.

 

[elitepete]

To be completely honest it depends on if it’s Girard from last regular season and the year prior or the Girard who showed up in playoffs and has played to start this season. Girard of last season would have been more than capable, but he seems off early on this year.

I think the extra term Girard has adds additional value and Miller tends to be a better wing than center. So I would say the value is still on the Avs side, but a good starting point.

We could add something like Rathbone who is our best d prospect, and has looked pretty good so far in the NHL. I assume Murray would move up and take Girard’s spot, and Rathbone would slide next to Johnson on the 3rd pair.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I think it’s the logical choice for Colorado. They’re becoming a bit too tilted to the defensive side with their talent.

Honestly, I think the Avs will lose any trade with Sam Girard, but he’s probably the odd one out. Makar and Byram aren’t going anywhere and I think his value is probably higher than Toews because of their contracts. Toews could be the one moved, but ultimately I think it’ll be Girard.

Colorado will be looking for a long term option at 2C, or at the very least a highly productive winger.

 

[Cenzo_]

Habs have a serious need for offensive left
Ds. What about a trade around Dvorak. Colorado have seen enough of Dvorak in Arizona to know he is better then what he has shown in MTL this year.

This would create a significant hole in the C position which is good for the Habs tank

 

[Newusername]

We could add something like Rathbone who is our best d prospect, and has looked pretty good so far in the NHL. I assume Murray would move up and take Girard’s spot, and Rathbone would slide next to Johnson on the 3rd pair.

Rathbone + Miller for Girard + whatever it takes to get Miller at 50% retained i would do in a heartbeat

 

[Habs10025]

Young French Canadian LD? This screams Montreal to me.

Didn't Drouin and MacKinnon play together in juniors as well?

Montreal are not trading for Girard.

 

[Freaky Styley]

I'm not saying it doesn't make logical sense to think about moving Girard, but he'd be a really hard guy to trade. His contract is a steal for the next 7 years through his prime. The Avs would need a guy on a similar deal just as valuable, which is nearly impossible to find. Guys like Zadina, Vilardi etc. are nice pieces, but they do little to solve the Avs problem now. They would need a sure-fire fit to take the 2C role. A guy I think about is Mercer, but he is still too inexperienced. Boone Jenner would be a good fit stylistically, but there would have to be a nice add-on. Maybe in a Malkin deal? Dach? Just a hard trade to figure out.

 

[95snipes]

Would give a fair bit from LA.
Iafallo+Kempe

Kopitar 15% retention
LA 2nd

for

Girard
Compher
Jost

 

[BB06]

I remember last year when delusional avs fans hyped Girard as a top 20 D because he had some inflated stats in a Mickey Mouse division.

 

[PAZ]

Habs have a serious need for offensive left
Ds. What about a trade around Dvorak. Colorado have seen enough of Dvorak in Arizona to know he is better then what he has shown in MTL this year.

This would create a significant hole in the C position which is good for the Habs tank

We've seen enough of Dvorak to know he's not that good.

 

[branch]

One lightly used Chris Tierney and a shiny 2nd round pick. Take back Del Zotto to fill the gap.

 

[Groo]

Kopitar 15% retention
LA 2nd

for

Girard
Compher
Jost

Retention and a couple of cap dumps. How can they say no?

 

[TheDachKnight]

I'm not saying it doesn't make logical sense to think about moving Girard, but he'd be a really hard guy to trade. His contract is a steal for the next 7 years through his prime. The Avs would need a guy on a similar deal just as valuable, which is nearly impossible to find. Guys like Zadina, Vilardi etc. are nice pieces, but they do little to solve the Avs problem now. They would need a sure-fire fit to take the 2C role. A guy I think about is Mercer, but he is still too inexperienced. Boone Jenner would be a good fit stylistically, but there would have to be a nice add-on. Maybe in a Malkin deal? Dach? Just a hard trade to figure out.

Easy no from Chicago and I love Girard. If you wanted to talk Kubalik (with extension)+, that I would listen on. Understand if that is a non-starter, but it would give you an underrated wing that should sign a reasonable contract.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

you dont, only way you trade him is in a package for a stud young LD. and girard ain it.

Out of curiosity who would be an example of a stud young LD you would trade him for?

 

[Reparlana]

No thanks. Well keep him.

 

[Mac Attack]

While Girard for a 2c would be a great fit for the Av's, I just can't see a possible trade fit anywhere. Montreal would be a great fit for Girard but they don't have what we need. Maybe a third team could be involved but I don't know who. Dang Eichel would have been perfect. Ugh

 

[stl76]

He still is a phenomenal, Top ~30 Dman in the league. Would be the #1 on a number of teams tbh.

No, he would not. Good player, elite spin-o-ramas - but posts like this are completely over the top. Girard is not a top 30 dman and any team he is a #1 on is a sad team indeed.

 

[Avaholic29]

No, he would not. Good player, elite spin-o-ramas - but posts like this are completely over the top. Girard is not a top 30 dman and any team he is a #1 on is a sad team indeed.

The numbers say otherwise but okay.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Do you think he could play the right side with OEL playing the most difficult matchups? Myers has been good so far but I feel like that has been more a product of OEL carrying him. If we could get a legit top pairing d man that could play in that role with OEL, our D would be much better.

I’d offer something around Miller for Girard.

The Canucks wouldn't even briefly consider that.

In Ekman-Larsson, Hughes, and Rathbone we have 3 players who are somewhat similar to Girard, we have no need for him and if we added him it would completely unbalance our D, despite him obviously being an upgrade on many of our D skill wise.

The fit isn't there.

Dumping Miller for an entirely redundant defence man would be a terrible move.