brian_griffin
"Eric Cartman?"
Others have rebutted with the lopsided value, battleships for rowboats, and the "players who want to be here" angles.I took a LOT of heat earlier in the week for saying a trade for Tage should be on the table. A lot of that is basic human nature, which I see a lot in the stock market. Human nature is to want to buy a rapidly appreciating asset, only to sell once it inevitably falls. Buy high, sell low. Or keep until well after peak value.
Now, where I did deserve to be called out is in the fact I didn't say what I'd trade him for. Well, here is the offer. Please don't say this is a troll job, as it is not
Tage to Nashville for Juuse Saros, Tommy Novak, Dante Fabbro, and a first round pick (I wanted Forsberg, but he has a no movement clause)
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I'll use your stock price sell high buy low argument to rebut with:
1. I'd rather hold the blue-chip dividend-paying stock which has increased sales, earnings, and dividends quarter after quarter consistently.
2. In the Warren Buffet / Charlie Munger mold, (paraphrasing) "I don't think about buying the stock, I think about buying the company. Do I want to own the company?"
I want to own a Fortune 50 Tage Thompson more so than a couple Fortune 300 firms and a NASDAQ penny stock.
(and)When you get a player like Tage on the contract he has…you do not, under any circumstances, trade him for a package of players. because you can get players the quality that you are trading for much easier than players like Tage at his age and contract. Much, much, much easier.
If you think Mittelstadt can produce like Tage if he had better linemates…you don’t trade Tage. You get him better linemates.
I recognize I disagree with a fair number of your views, but I can't agree strongly enough with the above two points.You can’t move Tage for parts. It’s hard to even make a top player for top player swap work because anyone in Tage’s weight class is making or will make a hell of a lot more than Tage does. His value is way above just elite 1C. He’s also paid like a 2C. And that’s in year ONE of a seven year deal that will only see him drop down the list of highest paid centers.
hes the 58th highest paid forward next year before an off-season of some forwards getting new deals. Think about that
not to mention…can you imagine Adams explaining how he went from “we want people who want to be here” to trading a guy who wanted to be here so badly that he didnt bet on himself to drive up the price and then got even better? For parts that he could have acquired in dozens of different ways?
Exactly. There is no "held hostage" deal here like existed with Lindros, etc.You move elite pieces for other elite pieces ie Turgeon for LaFontaine or Housley for Hawerchuk, moving them for a conglomeration of lessor pieces is inane. Now obviously extenuating circumstances may play a role but for an additional 7yrs of underpaid performance there's no number of row boats that returns that battleship
Your English is better than over half the American citizens. Trust me.I want to use opportunity to say big Thank You to all Sabres forum members to not laughing about my English as English is my third language. You guys awesome.
Agree with all the above with the exception of: re-signing Okposo instead of letting him walk and be willing to wait another year to re-sign Mitts (but would not be opposed to an extension).Re-sign:
- Zemgus
- Jost
Let walk:
- Okposo
- Hino
Extension:
- Dahlin
- Mitts
Somehow get rid of (trade, to ROC, etc):
- UPL
- Olofsson
- Joker
- Bryson
Promote:
- Savoie
UFA/Trade:
- #4 D partner for Power
- Bottom pair partner for Boosh
- 1 middle-6 forward. Defensively responsible and can PK is a plus.
Skinner - Thompson - Tuch
JJP- Cozens - Quinn
UFA - Mitts - Savoie
Greenway - Krebs - Girgs
Jost
Dahlin - Samuelsson
Power - UFA
UFA - Boosh
Stillman
Levi
Comrie
The lines are fine, but the season's end forced some other options which weren't bad. I remain open-minded for next year.