Confirmed with Link: Ryan Reaves to NYR for a 3rd

[JohnC]

What about Philly? lol

I’ve long maintained we’d have beaten them more than 9-0 both times if we had a little more team toughness.

 

[duhmetreE]

This isn’t just about Wilson. The Isles are a heavy team. So are the Bruins. Games against the Devils are going to get more competitive. Then there’s Philly.

A 1-2 year extension would be fine.

Carolina was doing a lot of questionable/dirty shit as well.

 

[will1066]

He looks like a fridge on skates, he is 240 minimum

Next to a definition of mesomorph, you'll find Reaves.

 

[will1066]

Carolina was doing a lot of questionable/dirty shit as well.

Bunch of jerks

 

[Off Sides]

I mean Reaves has to know what the Rangers are doing here, and how silly it would have looked had they made this trade and he did not report.

Maybe the 2.125M (salary owed for this year) was not enough given the risk, and he would have retired instead? He has dropped from 13 and 10 fights earlier in his NHL career to 3 last season.

Anyway, probably just a conspiracy theory, business is business.

 

[CLW]

Sather must've saw this pic

This guy has a bright future in the Old Boy's Club.

 

[Dijock94]

I mean Reaves has to know what the Rangers are doing here, and how silly it would have looked had they made this trade and he did not report.

Maybe the 2.125M (salary owed for this year) was not enough given the risk, and he would have retired instead? He has dropped from 13 and 10 fights earlier in his NHL career to 3 last season.

Anyway, probably just a conspiracy theory, business is business.

no one wants to fight him. He keeps teams in check just being out there because no one wants to have to answer to that lunatic if he actually goes off.

 

[ReddestRum]

I like it. This entire board cried and whined when Wilson was railing us. You don't get far in this game if you have no one on the team that has to be "that guy" for your team.

 

[FIRE DRURY]

What about Philly? lol

Reaves will shut down the legion of doom. Duh.

 

[RangerBoy]

This was rumored last week. Seravalli had Reeves on his trade list. He wrote the Rangers are believed to be interested in Reeves. I would rather have Reeves than that guy from Anaheim for a 1st round pick.

 

[Thirty One]

This was rumored last week. Seravalli had Reeves on his trade list. He wrote the Rangers are believed to be interested in Reeves. I would rather have Reeves than that guy from Anaheim for a 1st round pick.

No one is trading a 1st for Deslauriers

 

[Doriva]

I wouldn't mind this so much if it was just Reeves and not the rest of the grind squad along with Reeves

 

[NYR Viper]

The teams locker room needed a change. Reaves is a pretty good leader and vet for a young team. His words will carry weight because he will go out and back them up. They are paying him for multiple roles, defender, energy creator, leader, aggressor.

 

[NYR Viper]

At 34, turning 35 at mid-season, I'd have preferred we wait and see what we have first. We're not exactly talking about an age range when many players are known to thrive, let alone enforcers.

But, it is what it is.

At his cap hit, if things go South quickly, they can waive him and have a minimal cap hit.

 

[Edge]

At his cap hit, if things go South quickly, they can waive him and have a minimal cap hit.

Indeed, but still seems rather unnecessary at this point.

 

[NYSPORTS]

I wouldn't mind this so much if it was just Reeves and not the rest of the grind squad along with Reeves

the team needed to build the bottom two lines. Reaves alone wouldn’t fix anything.

 

[NYSPORTS]

No one is trading a 1st for Deslauriers

it’s a shame McIlrath couldn’t really skate . . . stay balanced when fighting . . . play defense or we’re not sure he’s actually a hockey player. Ahhhh, glad we took him b/c Tarasenko has a bad shoulder.

 

[chosen]

no one wants to fight him. He keeps teams in check just being out there because no one wants to have to answer to that lunatic if he actually goes off.

The idea that any player can keep an opposing team in check is one of the greatest fairy tales in sports.

 

[Dijock94]

The idea that any player can keep an opposing team in check is one of the greatest fairy tales in sports.

Ok listen to any interview where they talk about Bob Probert and watch how teams played against those Red Wings teams.

 

[Edge]

Ok listen to any interview where they talk about Bob Probert and watch how teams played against those Red Wings teams.

Their fellow enforcers were scared.

The players were not.

And that's why those teams from the mid 80s to early 90s are more fondly remembered for the fights than the victories or accomplishments.

 

[Dijock94]

Their fellow enforcers were scared.

The players were not.

And that's why those teams from the mid 80s to early 90s are more fondly remembered for the fights than the victories or accomplishments.

Disagree guys like Tie Domi or Claude Lemieux wouldn’t be running around terrorizing the Red Wings because they knew they would have to deal with him.

Edit: There is a reason when Wayne got traded from the Oilers he demanded that Marty McSorly be traded with him.

 

[Edge]

Disagree guys like Tie Domi or Claude Lemieux wouldn’t be running around terrorizing the Red Wings because they knew they would have to deal with him.

Yeah, but guys like Mark Messier still threw elbows. And Chris Chelios still did his thing to them, etc. etc.

That's the problem. Enforcers don't deter those guys. They square off and throw haymakers for 30 seconds to a minute with a fellow enforcer and then the game carries on.

Even years later, Claude Lemieux still goes after Draper, people still run the players, etc.

Don't get me wrong, the fights are fun. But a prevention it is not.

 

[Number 9]

The idea that any player can keep an opposing team in check is one of the greatest fairy tales in sports.

Not sold on this only because of what the players say about having that deterrent on their team. I'm thinking about 80's and 90's hockey though maybe not today. I just remember in Ice Guardians Brett Hull saying without the Semenkos and Chase's he and Gretzky wouldn't have been as successful as they were.

 

[nyrage]

My humble take: If people want to say Reaves can set a tone from the fourth line and in the locker room, can give the star players a perception of protection, give some possible vengeance against a transgression (maybe at some point) and not be as awful as Howden was last year, I can concede that.

but....

Saying that Tom Wilson did what he did to Buch/Panarin because of the Rangers lack of grit and leadership and Wilson will absolutely never do that now that Reaves and co are here just doesn't hold much water with me. I'll say it a different way this time:

The same thing happened to the evidently "lacking in leadership and grit" Bruins a month earlier. The Blues went through the same thing (twice), the Pens went through the same thing (twice)...etc. ALL lacking in leadership and grit???

....or Tom Wilson does what he does to all those teams because that's who Tom Wilson is as a player. Just as Bryan Marchment, just as Steve Downie, just as Matt Cooke, etc, etc were before him.

Reaves was on the Knights when Wilson laid out Marchessault with that big hit in game 1 of SC finals (Vegas won that game). Wilson knew who Reaves was before that game. Didn't stop him. Vegas lost the next four games and the series. Reaves played in three of the games and then not in the last.

Reaves gave Wilson a receipt a year later in the 2nd game between the two teams. Felt really good. Didn't fundamentally change Wilson as a player though.

Very true. I was an enforcer and instigator for my teams for many years. No one player on another team ever stopped me from running people and doing many vile things on the ice. And vice versa. You might retaliate, but it was always after the fact.

I hated watching KK and Laf get hit last year only for Mika, Strome, and others to skate away. Unfortunately things will still happen to them. However, I might feel better watching Reaves retaliate later in the game.

 

[Edge]

Not sold on this only because of what the players say about having that deterrent on their team. I'm thinking about 80's and 90's hockey though maybe not today.

I think players like knowing someone has their back.

Whether that inherently means having an "enforcer" is a different matter.

I think we equate those two concepts to mean the same thing and I don't know that it does.