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RW Pavel Buchnevich (2013, 75th, NYR)

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Skinnyjimmy08 said:
why do people think he wont come over till next season? (honest question)

Id think that if Buchnevich wants to come over, NYR would get it done as soon as possible. They don't want to risk anything with him. He could easily very well just end up staying in Russia
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There's not really a spot in the lineup for him this season, unless AV scratches Glass, and AV really likes the way Glass plays. Glass has also played better recently. Lindberg already is a healthy scratch. It would also require AV moving Fast to the fourth line, and he's another one of AV's favorites, playing him in the top 9 all the time when he should be playing on the 4th line.

It just doesn't seem likely that he'll come over here to sit in the stands and its not likely either that he'll want to play on an ATO in the AHL for a few weeks when he's already proven himself in a better league.

Next season when Eric Staal won't be on the team is probably the time when Buchnevich joins the lineup, if he does end up coming over to NA.
 
GordonGecko said:
there would need to be an injury
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One of those happened last year, and we sure could've used a talented forward to replace Zucc.

If the choices are Buch or Lindberg to go into the lineup for an injured player, I'm taking Buch, but are we really going to burn a year on his ELC just in case someone gets injured?
 
jayck said:
Like this stats sheet but still think Buch is not at the same level of Tarasenko and Kuz. Still going to be a good player thou!
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The stat sheets have him a lower level player than those two, a little better than Panarin. I agree with what you are saying though, probably not the same tier as those are two of the best forwards in the NHL, but he very well could be Kucherov tier, a very good first line winger.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
The stat sheets have him a lower level player than those two, a little better than Panarin. I agree with what you are saying though, probably not the same tier as those are two of the best forwards in the NHL, but he very well could be Kucherov tier, a very good first line winger.
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Not all players progress the same way. Panarin seems to have really exploded in his 22 year old season and even more so the year after. Not to mention he walked into a perfect situation in Chicago.
 
SMantzas said:
Not all players progress the same way. Panarin seems to have really exploded in his 22 year old season and even more so the year after. Not to mention he walked into a perfect situation in Chicago.
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True, but that also means he could be in the higher tier. His stats were much closer to Kuznetsov and Tarasenko this season while playing big minutes with Severstal. They were significantly higher than Panarin's stats at the same age. There was a thought from some Ranger fans that he'd get big minutes on the top line and top PP with SKA with better players around him, and his stats would improve even more to Kuznetsov or Tarasenko level. As the above poster mentioned, he didn't get the playing time for that to happen, so his stats suffered. Only the last game of the season did he get to play on the top line, and by that time it didn't really matter anymore. Gusev and Buchnevich both came in mid-season with similar stats at their former teams, and Gusev's stats skyrocketed with SKA, so it really wasn't wrong to say Buchnevich's could've if he got to play the minutes and situations that Gusev did, the coach just didn't choose to give him that playing time. Getting to the NHL and playing for a team that statistically is 6th in the NHL offensively should only help his offense if the coach gives him a chance to earn his playing time and doesn't just choose who gets what by how experienced they are.

Your point is correct though. For all we know, he could struggle to adapt to the NHL and go back to the KHL, but where he is at this point in terms of production is somewhere between where Tarasenko and Kuznetsov were and where Panarin was.
 
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I was really unimpressed with Buchnevich in the KHL playoffs. Yes he didn't get much ice time, but he didn't really generate anything and he's got to cut out the stupid penalties.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
True, but that also means he could be in the higher tier. His stats were much closer to Kuznetsov and Tarasenko this season while playing big minutes with Severstal. They were significantly higher than Panarin's stats at the same age. There was a thought from some Ranger fans that he'd get big minutes on the top line and top PP with SKA with better players around him, and his stats would improve even more to Kuznetsov or Tarasenko level. As the above poster mentioned, he didn't get the playing time for that to happen, so his stats suffered. Only the last game of the season did he get to play on the top line, and by that time it didn't really matter anymore. Gusev and Buchnevich both came in mid-season with similar stats at their former teams, and Gusev's stats skyrocketed with SKA, so it really wasn't wrong to say Buchnevich's could've if he got to play the minutes and situations that Gusev did, the coach just didn't choose to give him that playing time. Getting to the NHL and playing for a team that statistically is 6th in the NHL offensively should only help his offense if the coach gives him a chance to earn his playing time and doesn't just choose who gets what by how experienced they are.

Your point is correct though. For all we know, he could struggle to adapt to the NHL and go back to the KHL, but where he is at this point in terms of production is somewhere between where Tarasenko and Kuznetsov were and where Panarin was.
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Playing on a better team may improve stat totals, but that's predicated on being good enough to earn quality minutes. Buchnevich didnt do as such. It was painfully obvious that he sort of struggled when the intensity increased during the playoffs. Gusev, on the other hand, looked pretty good.
There is a lot more to it than "Buchnevich's stats would have been like Gusev's had Zubov used him like Gusev".
 
Zine said:
Playing on a better team may improve stat totals, but that's predicated on being good enough to earn quality minutes. Buchnevich didnt do as such. It was painfully obvious that he sort of struggled when the intensity increased during the playoffs. Gusev, on the other hand, looked pretty good.
There is a lot more to it than "Buchnevich's stats would have been like Gusev's had Zubov used him like Gusev".
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You are also assuming. We don't know, he wasn't given that chance, nor does it really matter anymore at this point.
 
http://nypost.com/2016/04/16/nhl-replay-rules-two-ways-the-system-can-be-improved/

The Rangers cautiously believe they will be able to sign Pavel Buchnevich and get their 2013 third-rounder into camp in September, even while understanding what happens in Russia sometimes stays in Russia.

Actually, management is hoping that it might be possible to bring the winger to New York within the next couple of weeks — if the Rangers extend their stay in the playoffs — in order to have him begin to acclimate himself to the operation.

“We’re hopeful we’re going to be able to get it done,†general manager Jeff Gorton told Slap Shots on Friday. “We know he wants to play in the NHL. This is his opportunity.â€

Buchnevich, who celebrates his 20th birthday on Sunday, apparently suffered some sort of wrist injury while working out with the National Team within the last couple of weeks, but details are foggy.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
http://nypost.com/2016/04/16/nhl-replay-rules-two-ways-the-system-can-be-improved/

The Rangers cautiously believe they will be able to sign Pavel Buchnevich and get their 2013 third-rounder into camp in September, even while understanding what happens in Russia sometimes stays in Russia.

Actually, management is hoping that it might be possible to bring the winger to New York within the next couple of weeks — if the Rangers extend their stay in the playoffs — in order to have him begin to acclimate himself to the operation.

“We’re hopeful we’re going to be able to get it done,†general manager Jeff Gorton told Slap Shots on Friday. “We know he wants to play in the NHL. This is his opportunity.â€

Buchnevich, who celebrates his 20th birthday on Sunday, apparently suffered some sort of wrist injury while working out with the National Team within the last couple of weeks, but details are foggy.
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Except that Buch will be 21 not 20.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
The stat sheets have him a lower level player than those two, a little better than Panarin. I agree with what you are saying though, probably not the same tier as those are two of the best forwards in the NHL, but he very well could be Kucherov tier, a very good first line winger.
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I didn't realize Kucherov was worse than Kuznetsov. I would take him over Kuznetsov any day of the week.

If Buchnevich is anything like Kucherov I will dance the streets. I don't think he is even close. Kucherov was a proven scorer at every level, and dominated the MHL from the age of 16.
 
Fantomas said:
I didn't realize Kucherov was worse than Kuznetsov. I would take him over Kuznetsov any day of the week.

If Buchnevich is anything like Kucherov I will dance the streets. I don't think he is even close. Kucherov was a proven scorer at every level, and dominated the MHL from the age of 16.
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Please tell me you aren't implying that kucherov is better than kuzy
 
Tigerscout said:
Please tell me you aren't implying that kucherov is better than kuzy
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At the age of 22 last year Kuz had 37 points in 80 reg season games and another 7 in 14 playoff games.
0.47 ppg that season and 55 career NHL points.

At 22 this season Kucherov has 66 in 77 and 11 in 9.
0.9 ppg this season and 182 career NHL points.

You can disagree with him for implying it but you sure as **** can't imply he's stupid for it.
 
Bevans said:
At the age of 22 last year Kuz had 37 points in 80 reg season games and another 7 in 14 playoff games.
0.47 ppg that season and 55 career NHL points.

At 22 this season Kucherov has 66 in 77 and 11 in 9.
0.9 ppg this season and 182 career NHL points.

You can disagree with him for implying it but you sure as **** can't imply he's stupid for it.
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Exactly... I can see alot of people preferring kuch over kuz. I'm torn who I like more
 
I thought it was a Buchnevich topic?!
And I think we all agree on this: Buch won't be at th same level as those 2(kuz and kuch)
 
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