RW Matvei Michkov - HC Sochi, KHL (2023 Draft) - PART 3

[BlueBull]

All I'm hoping for is that the KHL Russian League starts being treated like Proffesional League again.


Many Russian Players Talent and Legacy go unnoticed if they don't play substantial time in the NHL, and that's why players like Shipyachov, Yakupov and Dadonov (Initially) were rushed.

I think the KHL should be considered a near equal to the NHL. (It's stronger than the AHL, for sure)

The only reason People want Michkov to come over to the NHL Immeadiate is because they want to see Flashy Career Totals from him so It's more clear cut for his Hall of Fame case when it's all said and done. (Because the Hall doesn't consider the KHL a Proffesional League for some ungodly reason )

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

All I'm hoping for is that the KHL Russian League starts being treated like Proffesional League again.


Many Russian Players Talent and Legacy go unnoticed if they don't play substantial time in the NHL, and that's why players like Shipyachov, Yakupov and Dadonov (Initially) were rushed.

I think the KHL should be considered a near equal to the NHL. (It's stronger than the AHL, for sure)

The only reason People want Michkov to come over to the NHL Immeadiate is because they want to see Flashy Career Totals from him so It's more clear cut for his Hall of Fame case when it's all said and done. (Because the Hall doesn't consider the KHL a Proffesional League for some ungodly reason )

Dimitri Jaskin was the leading KHL goal scorer last season with 38 and he wasn't even a good 4th liner on the Coyotes this season. KHL near equal to the NHL? I think not, not even close.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

All I'm hoping for is that the KHL Russian League starts being treated like Proffesional League again.


Many Russian Players Talent and Legacy go unnoticed if they don't play substantial time in the NHL, and that's why players like Shipyachov, Yakupov and Dadonov (Initially) were rushed.

I think the KHL should be considered a near equal to the NHL. (It's stronger than the AHL, for sure)

The only reason People want Michkov to come over to the NHL Immeadiate is because they want to see Flashy Career Totals from him so It's more clear cut for his Hall of Fame case when it's all said and done. (Because the Hall doesn't consider the KHL a Proffesional League for some ungodly reason )

Lol. No.

 

[Toene]

Dimitri Jaskin was the leading KHL goal scorer last season with 38 and he wasn't even a good 4th liner on the Coyotes this season. KHL near equal to the NHL? I think not, not even close.

I think the KHL is probably the strongest league after the NHL, but it could easily be argued the AHL is too.

These kind of comparisons based on how some player does good there ans not here are not really a reliable way to assess the league's quality. The style of play is different and the skill-sets that thrive in the K are totally different. It's really on a case-by-case basis.

 

[OKR]

All I'm hoping for is that the KHL Russian League starts being treated like Proffesional League again.


Many Russian Players Talent and Legacy go unnoticed if they don't play substantial time in the NHL, and that's why players like Shipyachov, Yakupov and Dadonov (Initially) were rushed.

I think the KHL should be considered a near equal to the NHL. (It's stronger than the AHL, for sure)

The only reason People want Michkov to come over to the NHL Immeadiate is because they want to see Flashy Career Totals from him so It's more clear cut for his Hall of Fame case when it's all said and done. (Because the Hall doesn't consider the KHL a Proffesional League for some ungodly reason )

KHL is barely better than SHL and that’s debateable as well.

 

[BlueBull]

Dimitri Jaskin was the leading KHL goal scorer last season with 38 and he wasn't even a good 4th liner on the Coyotes this season. KHL near equal to the NHL? I think not, not even close.

Well the transition might not be perfect, but I still think It's a strong league that deserves credit.

Also, Jaskin in another example of a bad transition. It's pretty much Cherry Picking.

I could cherry pick as well. Radulov and Dadonov (the 2nd time) were top KHLers and made relatively smooth transitions to become NHL Top Liners.

 

[NatusVincere]

Has he ever actually expressed interest in the NHL? I have watched him from 4 yearsand I am afraid he will waste his youth in the KHL. He seems very commited to SKA.

He once said in an interview what you would expect from him, he follows the NHL but is only thinking about his club right now. I think that sooner or later he also aims to compete with the best.

 

[NatusVincere]

All I'm hoping for is that the KHL Russian League starts being treated like Proffesional League again.


Many Russian Players Talent and Legacy go unnoticed if they don't play substantial time in the NHL, and that's why players like Shipyachov, Yakupov and Dadonov (Initially) were rushed.

I think the KHL should be considered a near equal to the NHL. (It's stronger than the AHL, for sure)

The only reason People want Michkov to come over to the NHL Immeadiate is because they want to see Flashy Career Totals from him so It's more clear cut for his Hall of Fame case when it's all said and done. (Because the Hall doesn't consider the KHL a Proffesional League for some ungodly reason )

What is the most important thing for his development? If he is actually as good as one can assume at the moment, he will no longer have any competition in Russia by the time he is 20/21 at the latest. In addition, no U18 WJC, no U20, no senior world championship, EHT, OG etc.

So 60 max 70 games per season until he is 22 years old? How many of them at a really high level where everything is asked of him? If he stays until 2026 under the new circumstances, it will only be for patriotic reasons. In my opinion, that would be a mistake from a sporting point of view.

 

[waitin425]

Well the transition might not be perfect, but I still think It's a strong league that deserves credit.

Also, Jaskin in another example of a bad transition. It's pretty much Cherry Picking.

I could cherry pick as well. Radulov and Dadonov (the 2nd time) were top KHLers and made relatively smooth transitions to become NHL Top Liners.

Yeah sure. Radu and Dads made the transition from top of the KHL to top 6 forwards in the NHL. How many 2nd, 3rd, or 4th liners in the KHL would even get a sniff at the NHL? Answer.....none. How many 3rd or 4th liners, or washed up players who cant even make an NHL roster anymore, end up in the KHL?

This isn't bash on Russian hockey, but in terms of leagues, these two are not even close. Like light years apart.

 

[kp61c]

What is the most important thing for his development? If he is actually as good as one can assume at the moment, he will no longer have any competition in Russia by the time he is 20/21 at the latest. In addition, no U18 WJC, no U20, no senior world championship, EHT, OG etc.

So 60 max 70 games per season until he is 22 years old? How many of them at a really high level where everything is asked of him? If he stays until 2026 under the new circumstances, it will only be for patriotic reasons. In my opinion, that would be a mistake from a sporting point of view.

He won't be dominating the league as a 20/21 years old. You overestimate the importance of subpar international tournaments. It'll be a mistake to rush things in order to be the player that's heavily relied upon to right the course for some crappy dysfunctional organization. Let's see how he fares in the KHL before hoisting the white flag and voiding his contract.
Let me guess, you don't live in Russia?

 

[Siludin]

He won't be dominating the league as a 20/21 years old.
Let me guess, you don't live in Russia?

If Michkov is as good as he is appears to be, the only thing holding him back from dominating the KHL will be KHL team loyalty politics (i.e. how much ice time he is getting)

 

[JeffreyLFC]

KHL is barely better than SHL and that’s debateable as well.

KHL quality has dropped significantly since their last expansion. Many teams are clearly not competitive.

 

[kp61c]

If Michkov is as good as he is appears to be, the only thing holding him back from dominating the KHL will be KHL team loyalty politics (i.e. how much ice time he is getting)

Let's see it first. It's too early to moan about Michkov ruining his carreer in the KHL. He isn't even a regular KHL player yet, for christ's sake

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[Sasha Orlov]

He's lucky to play with Buchelnikov. What a stacked team.

He’s getting misused soooo badly
He’d be better off on a team where he has to be the man

 

[NatusVincere]

And Michkov with the hat trick in the 2nd OT. Filatov probably wants Michkov to grind his way through the defense, but he can do that too (I mean look at how the goals were scored…). With Buchelnikov out he literally carried SKA on his shoulders into the fifth game. Bad playoff performer!

 

[Caser]

 

[Fantomas]

What a beast.

 

[Hanji]

Yeah sure. Radu and Dads made the transition from top of the KHL to top 6 forwards in the NHL. How many 2nd, 3rd, or 4th liners in the KHL would even get a sniff at the NHL? Answer.....none. How many 3rd or 4th liners, or washed up players who cant even make an NHL roster anymore, end up in the KHL?

This isn't bash on Russian hockey, but in terms of leagues, these two are not even close. Like light years apart.

I dunno.
Players like Nichushkin and Barabanov were 2nd-3rd liners on their respective KHL teams before earning NHL roster spots. Nashville's Trenin had diffiulty even gettng into SKA's lineup 2 years ago.

Good but not great KHLers like Lyubushkin, Mikheyev, Ozhiganov, Tryamkin, etc. were able to make NHL rosters in recent years.
Even younger guys like Romanov, Chinakhov, Podkolzin (who were painfully average KHLrs) were NHL level the following year.
Jake Virtanen, who's been an established NHLer for years now, wasn't remotely close to a being a higher-quality KHLer.

Of course the NHL is a signifcantly better league, but that doesn't mean every NHLer would be a quality KHLer, or that the only KHLers who are NHL level are the elite ones.
Like people have posted, making the NHL can come down to style of game, open roster spot, coaches, or opportunity just as much as it does talent.

 

[FlyguyOX]

And Michkov with the hat trick in the 2nd OT. Filatov probably wants Michkov to grind his way through the defense, but he can do that too (I mean look at how the goals were scored…). With Buchelnikov out he literally carried SKA on his shoulders into the fifth game. Bad playoff performer!

Why was buchelnikov out

 

[Kshahdoo]

Why was buchelnikov out

Injured.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Highlights of the game with Michkov's hatty.

 

[Kshahdoo]

So the VHL SKA lost its series. I hope they will add Chibrikov and Svechkov to SKA-1946 roster. Chibrikov - Svechkov - Michkov line can win it all.

 

[Caser]

 

[Kshahdoo]

Goal plus primary assist. 10 goals in 12 games in the playoffs so far.

 

[MrGeno101]

The goalies learning You can say a lot about Michov's goalscoring and points, but what stands out even more in my opinion is his smooth hands and hockey IQ. Don't like hype him to much but he sure looks like next big Russian hockey artist.