Speculation: Russo on the status of Kaprizov’s contract negotiations

[Dr Jan Itor]

High enough to be annoying, but not hugely detrimental if he's the guy that he thinks (and we hope) he is.

At least its within shouting distance of some comparables.

 

[Menzinger]

Both sides should.be happy with a 9 - 9.5 aav deal in that range of term

 

[MuckOG]

Interesting that a guy that doesn't like playing in Minnesota would sign a deal keeping him there for the next 5 years.

 

[Mr Positive]

I'm skeptical.

The deal that made sense for both sides, cap aside, was 1-2 years to build his resume a little more. The only reason not to is because the cap hell is staying until 4 years from now. You can't re sign him during that period.

So, it just has to be 4 years. I could be wrong, but it just makes too much sense. Also we've seen reports like this be wrong in the past, so I'm not convinced yet.

 

[Treb]

MODS if Y'all don't mind just merge it with my thread when it's official. I already made a confirmed thread in advance and there's no need for a bunch of new threads, your servers will probably crash as per usual .

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[MuckOG]

I'm skeptical.

The deal that made sense for both sides, cap aside, was 1-2 years to build his resume a little more. The only reason not to is because the cap hell is staying until 4 years from now. You can't re sign him during that period.

So, it just has to be 4 years. I could be wrong, but it just makes too much sense. Also we've seen reports like this be wrong in the past, so I'm not convinced yet.

Why does it make sense to sign a 2 year deal that takes him right to unrestricted free agency?

 

[Mr Positive]

Why does it make sense to sign a 2 year deal that takes him right to unrestricted free agency?

because, he wouldn't be? I thought that was 3 years. The principle is just to establish value better. He only played 55 games in the NHL

Besides, that doesn't matter because I added that because of cap concerns, the deal has to be no shorter than 4 years.

 

[Bazeek]

because, he wouldn't be? I thought that was 3 years. The principle is just to establish value better. He only played 55 games in the NHL

Besides, that doesn't matter because I added that because of cap concerns, the deal has to be no shorter than 4 years.

If he elected for arbitration after 2 years he'd be awarded a 1-year contract and walk to free agency. If the goal is to get to UFA as quickly as possible it's effectively the same as a 3-year contract.

 

[Spurgeon]

because, he wouldn't be? I thought that was 3 years. The principle is just to establish value better. He only played 55 games in the NHL

Besides, that doesn't matter because I added that because of cap concerns, the deal has to be no shorter than 4 years.

And then he files for arbitration that takes him straight to UFA.

The Wild have Suter and Parise’s dead cap for the next 4 seasons so they needed a contract that was at least 4+ years to be able to afford any kind of extension.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

So are they close?

Definitely maybe.

 

[tarheelhockey]

“They’re not close, but they’re very close.”
That clears things up.

The quote reminds me of this meme.

Lmao that's awesome. Not close to very close.

Sure, but it's on-brand in a thread called: "Speculation: the actual news"

 

[The Moose is Loose]

How does he get 9 million by 5 years? That’s absolutely absurd.

He has one sub PPG season under his belt and that’s literally it. If that’s the deal he ends up getting sounds like the wild just caved and gave him exactly what he wants, which is a massive deal and ends soon enough to get him a monster Panarin-esque deal in his late 20s.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

How does he get 9 million by 5 years? That’s absolutely absurd.

He has one sub PPG season under his belt and that’s literally it. If that’s the deal he ends up getting sounds like the wild just caved and gave him exactly what he wants, which is a massive deal and ends soon enough to get him a monster Panarin-esque deal in his late 20s.

It was always going to be a weird situation. This would be on the 'tolerable' end.

 

[Fatass]

How does he get 9 million by 5 years? That’s absolutely absurd.

He has one sub PPG season under his belt and that’s literally it. If that’s the deal he ends up getting sounds like the wild just caved and gave him exactly what he wants, which is a massive deal and ends soon enough to get him a monster Panarin-esque deal in his late 20s.

To me if it is 9 per over five years that’s both sides compromising. Kap went from three to five years. Wild went from 8 to 9 per.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

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I'm not an insider, this was an one-off. Also who would ever give up their source(s)? No one. Especially not to some random dudes on HfBoards.

 

[Treb]

I'm not an insider, this was an one-off. Also who would ever give up their source(s)? No one. Especially not to some random dudes on HfBoards.

Then don't post your info. This is pretty clear in the rules.

Plenty of people have gotten vetted.

EDIT: Also, even if you were vetted, it would be the rumor tag until an official source confirms it, which is what the confirmed with link tag is for.

 

[EXTRAS]

Well he scored at a 40 goal pace with Victor Rask as his Center. 40 goal scorers tend to get a lot of money.

Not sure he should get as much as what Makar got on a 6 year deal.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Well he scored at a 40 goal pace with Victor Rask as his Center. 40 goal scorers tend to get a lot of money.

"Pace." The single most ridiculous crutch on HF.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

How does he get 9 million by 5 years? That’s absolutely absurd.

He has one sub PPG season under his belt and that’s literally it. If that’s the deal he ends up getting sounds like the wild just caved and gave him exactly what he wants, which is a massive deal and ends soon enough to get him a monster Panarin-esque deal in his late 20s.

...because the Wild are banking on him taking another or level or two during the life of the contract. Based on what he's shown so far he's probably capable of that but that's the risk.

 

[SEALBound]

Question I kinda have is....can they afford NOT to sign him?

Seems like a situation where the nerdy kid is just asking not to get beat up too bad by the school bully. You're gonna get beat up but maybe if you ask nice, he'll only hit you 9 times instead of 10.

 

[rynryn]

i'm now in "whatever will be, will be" mode. it'd be great if he was here but whatevs.

Not sure he should get as much as what Makar got on a 6 year deal.

Makar could have made more IMO.

 

[tucker3434]

Seems a bit steep for a guy that has 51 career points. But in the end, they've got to do whatever it takes.

 

[Lt Dan]

MODS if Y'all don't mind just merge it with my thread when it's official. I already made a confirmed thread in advance and there's no need for a bunch of new threads, your servers will probably crash as per usual .

Your thread was sent down to the minors

 

[AKL]

If he continues to be exactly what he was last season, 9M is a bit high, but not offensively so.

If he improves on last season, 9M would be anywhere from a fair and decent contract to a good deal for him.

His production will most likely continue to be a function of how good the team around him is, so I'm not too worried about it. He could probably hit 90 points in 82 games with the right team around him. Whether Guerin can assemble the right team in the next five years remains to be seen.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

...because the Wild are banking on him taking another or level or two during the life of the contract. Based on what he's shown so far he's probably capable of that but that's the risk.

Seems like a lot of risk. At that price your not just banking on him improving, but rising to the rare elite level of winger who can drive/carry an entire offense