Proposal: Rumours & Proposals Thread | Trade Cloned, Keep Soli | STAY AWAY CHIA

[Paralyzer]

yes he does decent deals

but the bad ones outweigh the good ones

Not saying he doesn't make bad one's either. But name me some GMs who hasn't done bad deals ever in their careers? I personally think if this was the best GM ever in Edmonton's position, we'd still find a way to rip into him. I mean, why is everyone wanting Lowe back as GM over Chia? Wasn't it us who wanted Lowe gone completely? That's what I don't understand.

It's the expectations from everyone here and the pressure we give as fans that create GMs "Worse" than they really are.

 

[Faelko]

Milan Lucic says hi.

That’s more of a hindsight bad contract, looked alright in year 1 and outright awful now.

 

[Faelko]

God I hope someone claims Spooner

 

[Paralyzer]

That’s more of a hindsight bad contract, looked alright in year 1 and outright awful now.

Exactly. If we could predict the future on every deal, we'd be a super franchise by now.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

That’s more of a hindsight bad contract, looked alright in year 1 and outright awful now.

Not really. Everyone knew it was going to be bad at some point. That point just happened to arrive sooner than expected.

Not saying he doesn't make bad one's either. But name me some GMs who hasn't done bad deals ever in their careers? I personally think if this was the best GM ever in Edmonton's position, we'd still find a way to rip into him. I mean, why is everyone wanting Lowe back as GM over Chia? Wasn't it us who wanted Lowe gone completely? That's what I don't understand.

It's the expectations from everyone here and the pressure we give as fans that create GMs "Worse" than they really are.

When the entire league laughs at every transaction you make, you're probably a terrible GM. It doesn't matter if other GMs make bad moves. Especially when your GM corrects those bad moves for the other GMs.

The best move he's made since he arrived was drafting Connor McDavid. Apart from that almost everything he's done has been a disaster. The Hall trade, the Eberle trade, the Reinhart trade, the Lucic signing, Sekera's contract looks terrible right now. Overpayments after overpayments. Needless buyouts. Poor development of our top prospects.

I expect competency, not miracles. And I don't even get that from our current GM.

 

[oXo Cube]

Every significant move Chiarelli has made has blown up in his face. Most of them spectacularly so.

Trying to distract with "But remember when he got Maroon from Anaheim!!1" doesn't bridge that gap. Not even close.

 

[justafan22]

NTC: Koskinen, Larsson (limited) and Talbot (limited)
NMC: Lucic, Russell, Sekera

The one player who deserves it, he didn't even give out the NTC

 

[The Nuge]

Everyone knew it was going to be bad at some point. That point just happened to arrive sooner than expected.

Except not really. Everyone claimed it was going to be bad because he was going to be too injured with his play style. People couldn’t have been less correct about Lucic despite guessing the outcome

 

[Faelko]

The one player who deserves it, he didn't even give out the NTC

If you mean McDavid, yeah he did. It just doesn’t kick in until 2022

 

[Little Fury]

Except not really. Everyone claimed it was going to be bad because he was going to be too injured with his play style. People couldn’t have been less correct about Lucic despite guessing the outcome

That's not true at all. The concern was that his production would tail off as he aged, which happens with a lot of power forwards.

 

[nhlisajoke]

would you guys be ok with this lineup ? if Sekera stays on LTIR bonus for us

 

[justafan22]

If you mean McDavid, yeah he did. It just doesn’t kick in until 2022

whoops

 

[Little Fury]

Am i dreaming?

Talbot, Kassian +
Wayne Simmons

Only if both agree to sign.

Gross. Simmonds is Lucic 2.0.

 

[Little Fury]

When the entire league laughs at every transaction you make, you're probably a terrible GM. It doesn't matter if other GMs make bad moves. Especially when your GM corrects those bad moves for the other GMs.

The best move he's made since he arrived was drafting Connor McDavid. Apart from that almost everything he's done has been a disaster. The Hall trade, the Eberle trade, the Reinhart trade, the Lucic signing, Sekera's contract looks terrible right now. Overpayments after overpayments. Needless buyouts. Poor development of our top prospects.

I expect competency, not miracles. And I don't even get that from our current GM.

When Chia took over, the Oilers' best players/assets were McDavid, Drai, Hall, Nugent-Hopkins and Klefbom. four years later, the Oilers' best players are McDavid, Drai, Nugent-Hopkins and Klefbom. He hasn't added a single impact player to this roster. That's staggering.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Except not really. Everyone claimed it was going to be bad because he was going to be too injured with his play style. People couldn’t have been less correct about Lucic despite guessing the outcome

People were worried about him slowing down due to the pace of the game being higher and that's exactly what happened. He's not worth 6 million now, never mind 3-4 years down the road.

 

[The Nuge]

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would you guys be ok with this lineup ? if Sekera stays on LTIR bonus for us

Not really. Our forwards are still pathetic in that mock up. We can’t win unless we bring in at least 2 top 6 wingers

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

When Chia took over, the Oilers' best players/assets were McDavid, Drai, Hall, Nugent-Hopkins and Klefbom. four years later, the Oilers' best players are McDavid, Drai, Nugent-Hopkins and Klefbom. He hasn't added a single impact player to this roster. That's staggering.

Not through trade, not through draft, not through signings...

The perfect trifecta.

 

[McBooya42]

Milan Lucic says hi.

Don't you mean Brent Seabrook?

 

[Little Fury]

Not through trade, not through draft, not through signings...

The perfect trifecta.

Never has a GM done so little with so much.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Don't you mean Brent Seabrook?

No I think I mean Milan Lucic.

 

[The Nuge]

That's not true at all. The concern was that his production would tail off as he aged, which happens with a lot of power forwards.

I mean, it just is. You’re actually going to try and pretend like people say powerforwards just suddenly stop scoring for no particular reason as they age? Everyone says it’s because of the play style, which leads to injuries, and a decline. That simply didn’t happen with Lucic.

People were worried about him slowing down due to the pace of the game being higher and that's exactly what happened. He's not worth 6 million now, never mind 3-4 years down the road.

No they weren’t. That’s just making things up with hindsight. And plenty of slow players are still effective

 

[Paralyzer]

Either way, not trying to defend Chia in all of this, because quite frankly, his time here is almost done, but I am curious what his thinking is on all of these deals he's done. Seems to me people see only 1 side of things when something goes sour, but how do we really know if this was 100% Chia or someone else is pulling the strings? This is why I don't think it really matters who you have as the next GM, because unless everyone is canned, no one will know if it's been Chia doing this or the OBC.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

No they weren’t. That’s just making things up with hindsight. And plenty of slow players are still effective

There was absolutely some concern about his playing ability as he got older. There's a reason guys his age generally don't get 7 year deals.

 

[McFlash97]

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would you guys be ok with this lineup ? if Sekera stays on LTIR bonus for us

Sorry man, team is still not going anywhere with that Lineup.


You need aggressive forechecking type above average speed and IQ and with tenacity and stick skills.


Think:

Burokovksy
Stone
Athanasiou
Pitlick
Anders Lee

type players on your second and third lines.


Not Colby f***ing Cave, Yamamoto, Lucic. That's a recipe for instant fail


you also cant go into next season putting all your eggs in the Klefbom basket. The guy is made of glass. Once he is out your defense goes into the dumps.

In other words its a badly constructed team. Chiarelli can't judge what your modern NHL player looks like. Katz and crew cant see what Chiarelli is all about

 

[Ritchie Valens]

Were Spooner and Rattie on waiver for re-assignment to the Condors or just to see if anyone would take them on for free?