Proposal: Rumours & Proposals Thread | Trade Cloned, Keep Soli | STAY AWAY CHIA

[Soundwave]

I'd do it if a guy like Stone or Duchene were willing to sign.

Even a Sekera buy out gets you $3 mill in cap space.

Duchene or Stone probably will want $8-$9 million and there's no guarantee they even want to re-sign here.

And if you commit to that you're basically locked in. That team better eventually bring home a Stanley Cup.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I'd do it if a guy like Stone or Duchene were willing to sign.

Might not even have to if things are as bad as I think they are with his knee. Perma LTIR might be the ticket.

I honestly expected an AHL conditioning stint by now.

Also looking at that cap situation makes me facepalm at the Manning acquisition all the more. What the f*** was Chiarelli thinking.

I think both Spooner and Manning are Condors next season. Buys a shade over 2 mil in cap space.

Benson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Duchene-RNH-Puljujarvi
Chiasson-Marody-Yamamoto
Lucic-Cave-Kassian
Brodziak-whoever

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse-Russell
Jones-Persson
Petrovic

Koskinen
Elliot

Assuming something like 20191st+2020 2nd+Benning+Khaira+Talbot for Duchene, some slug, and Hammond happens this season. Duchene signs a standard Chia overpayment.

There’s very little room for improvement and it still banks heavily on kids on the wing but adding a Duchene level talent IS do-able.

 

[Llamamoto]

If we dump Benning for a pick, resign Khaira for 1.75 mil, Pulju for 1, and Chiasson for 2.5, we have ~8 million to sign a backup goalie and 3 more forwards.

 

[GodPucker]

The cost of acquiring Tarasenko would gut this team. You would instantly have several more holes to fill.

As far as I am concerned, even with players playing, the team has the same holes because they guys suck so bad and aren't useful. We just have a lot of non NHL players skating around and taking up space and not accomplishing anything.

 

[Del Preston]

If we dump Benning for a pick, resign Khaira for 1.75 mil, Pulju for 1, and Chiasson for 2.5, we have ~8 million to sign a backup goalie and 3 more forwards.
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That roster would still be nowhere near good enough to compete. Maybe bubble again.

If they miss the playoffs this season there will be major changes in the offseason, either through panic trades by this management group or a new one who wants to put their stamp on the team.

 

[MessierII]

Those numbers are for 2019-20. Those guys have already "walked."

Difference is you have Sekeras 5.5 mil and 2.2 of Spooner against the cap counting as just under 8 mil when with buyouts it could be just under 4.

 

[Cloned]

Difference is you have Sekeras 5.5 mil and 2.2 of Spooner against the cap counting as just under 8 mil when with buyouts it could be just under 4.

Buyouts would be the absolute worst thing to do.

 

[MessierII]

Buyouts would be the absolute worst thing to do.

How? Would you rather have Sekera and Spooner eating up 7.7-8.6 million next year and 5.5 the next or taking up 3.6 in those two years and 1.5 the two after? 1.5 is measly and we would gain huge amounts of cap space in the short term.

 

[Cloned]

Might not even have to if things are as bad as I think they are with his knee. Perma LTIR might be the ticket.

I honestly expected an AHL conditioning stint by now.

Also looking at that cap situation makes me facepalm at the Manning acquisition all the more. What the **** was Chiarelli thinking.

Dude doesn't want to be GM here anymore but doesn't want to quit and forfeit his millions.

So he tries to play 4D chess and purposefully make bad moves to get Nicholson to fire him.

Little does he know Nicholson is playing 5D chess.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Who's a buyout candidate next season that we could add to the list?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

How? Would you rather have Sekera and Spooner eating up 7.7-8.6 million next year and 5.5 the next or taking up 3.6 in those two years and 1.5 the two after? 1.5 is measly and we would gain huge amounts of cap space in the short term.

Has a team ever had four buyouts on the cap before? We’re still paying Pouliot and Gryba.

Chiarelli pays a decent top 9 forward in a slump for a bottom pairing slug but he couldn’t even get a conditional 7th in 2022 for Gryba?

 

[MessierII]

Has a team ever had four buyouts on the cap before? We’re still paying Pouliot and Gryba.

Does it really matter if it saves us cap in the short term and has minimal long term implications?

 

[T-Funk]

Who's a buyout candidate next season that we could add to the list?

Koskinen.....

 

[Llamamoto]

nvm

 

[bobbythebrain]

Does it really matter if it saves us cap in the short term and has minimal long term implications?

It does matter, hence why GM's don't pile up multiple buyouts

 

[Cloned]

How? Would you rather have Sekera and Spooner eating up 7.7-8.6 million next year and 5.5 the next or taking up 3.6 in those two years and 1.5 the two after? 1.5 is measly and we would gain huge amounts of cap space in the short term.

Because Sekera is a great candidate for LTIR.

 

[Llamamoto]

That roster would still be nowhere near good enough to compete. Maybe bubble again.

If they miss the playoffs this season there will be major changes in the offseason, either through panic trades by this management group or a new one who wants to put their stamp on the team.

I would sign Marcus Johansson for 2 million, Curtis McBackup for 1, and Jakob Silverberg for 4.5. He won't command as much because he is on pace for about 38 points. It would work cap wise, if we dump Benning.

 

[MessierII]

It does matter, hence why GM's don't pile up multiple buyouts

So the 1.5 million in years 3 and 4 after this one are a deal breaker? Tell me how it matters? We gain huge cap this and next summer and the only dead cap space we would carry beyond that is 1.5 mil for two more years. To me the 1.5 mil of dead space (less than we have now) 3 and 4 seasons from now is less concerning than Sekera and Spooner occupying 8.6 and 5.5 mil over the next two years.

 

[MessierII]

Because Sekera is a great candidate for LTIR.

Obviously if you can do that you do it but that’s not a guarantee.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I'd do it if a guy like Stone or Duchene were willing to sign.

$21,488,001 in cap with 7 players to sign. Could squeeze a little more out of it if we replaced Manning with a cheaper option.

 

[MessierII]

$21,488,001 in cap with 7 players to sign. Could squeeze a little more out of it if we replaced Manning with a cheaper option.

Lucic isn’t going anywhere man

 

[Soundwave]

The 1st rounder Chia trades away at this deadline will go on to win the Calder Trophy in two years. Book it.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Lucic isn’t going anywhere man

He's there, with Connor and Drai, it got blocked out but their salaries are accounted for.

 

[Paralyzer008]

I checked out the C market this summer and it sucks.

It re-affirms that McDavid, Draisaitl and Nuge all running their own lines would be paramount to getting things on track next season.

It's always easier to find wingers, unless you're Peter Chiarelli.

 

[Soundwave]

EDM 1st 2019 unprotected + Spooner for Mark Stone

Is about what I expect, but I think Stone could throw a wrench in that by refusing to sign an extension.

If they can get him to agree, I think they re-sign Stone at $8.7 million (Oiler tax) x 8 years.

To be honest I don't like Stone's game all that much. Good shot but not a lot of speed or puck skill.

That's what I suspect the Oilers will do though. You have two dumb GMs in Chiarelli and Dorion that desperately need to save face.

Ottawa gets a 1st rounder that could even win the draft lottery to sell to their fans, Chiarelli gets a winger after he's gutted the forward group for the better part of 4 years to try and save whatever is left of his career.

If they cannot get an assurance to re-sign from Stone, they will try Hoffman from Florida as plan B for the same price (a massive overpay relative to what they could've gotten him for just a few months ago). It's all very Chia.